The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[Sixties Fan]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

 

[Sixties Fan]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

You are on the wrong thread.
There is one specifically started to discuss who is indigenous to Palestine. Look it up.

 

[Issa]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Dumbest argument ever. Palestinians were kicked from their land and settlers from Europe and other parts were forced in. It's called genocide and occupation. Only the IS sees other way along Israel....why is that ?

 

[Sixties Fan]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Dumbest argument ever. Palestinians were kicked from their land and settlers from Europe and other parts were forced in. It's called genocide and occupation. Only the IS sees other way along Israel....why is that ?

Spending any time in Europe did not turn the Jews into Europeans.

It did not turn the Muslims who invaded Europe, Arabs or Turks, into Europeans.

Why is it that only the Jews become Europeans for spending some time on that continent?

 

[Billo_Really]

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Put this in your falafal and sip it.

"many of today’s Israelis who emigrated from Europe after World War II have little or no genealogical connection to the land."​

 

[rylah]

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Put this in your falafal and sip it.

"many of today’s Israelis who emigrated from Europe after World War II have little or no genealogical connection to the land."​

Not his field, and even in his field...well

I wonder how professor would explain the fact that Jews in Europe were called "Palestinians among us" about a century before the Arabs decided to appropriate that identity?

 

[Billo_Really]

Not his field, and even in his field...well

I wonder how professor would explain the fact that Jews in Europe were called "Palestinians among us" about a century before the Arabs decided to appropriate that identity?

Palestinian-Arabs are the direct decendents of the Israelites.

 

[montelatici]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Arabs are people that speak Arabic. North Africans are called Arabs but they are, in fact, mostly Berbers, indigenous to Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco etc. Arabians are people from Arabia. The Arabs of Palestine are the descendants of the Christians that were living in Palestine when the Muslims invaded. Many converted to Islam though a good 30% were still Christian before the Jew invasion of Palestine from Europe. Many of the Christians that were living in Palestine before the Muslim invasion were descendants of Jews that converted to Christianity after the birth of Christ and the instatement of Christianity as the state religion of Rome/Byzantium.

The European Jews that invaded Palestine are descendants of Europeans that converted to Judaism. They are not indigenous to the Middle East.

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East"

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

 

[rylah]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Arabs are people that speak Arabic. North Africans are called Arabs but they are, in fact, mostly Berbers, indigenous to Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco etc. Arabians are people from Arabia. The Arabs of Palestine are the descendants of the Christians that were living in Palestine when the Muslims invaded. Many converted to Islam though a good 30% were still Christian before the Jew invasion of Palestine from Europe. Many of the Christians that were living in Palestine before the Muslim invasion were descendants of Jews that converted to Christianity after the birth of Christ and the instatement of Christianity as the state religion of Rome/Byzantium.

The European Jews that invaded Palestine are descendants of Europeans that converted to Judaism. They are not indigenous to the Middle East.

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East"

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

But then again we have:

Genome-Wide Diversity in the Levant Reveals Recent Structuring by Culture

Jews cluster mostly with the Druze and Lebanese Christians while Palestinian Arabs with Saudis, Jordanians and Bedouins :

 

[rylah]

Not his field, and even in his field...well

I wonder how professor would explain the fact that Jews in Europe were called "Palestinians among us" about a century before the Arabs decided to appropriate that identity?

Palestinian-Arabs are the direct decendents of the Israelites.

Give me a break, they also claim Islam came before Judaism
Arabs came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews at the time.

 

[montelatici]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

 

[montelatici]

We are basically defending and sponsoring a terrorist of Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians and stealing their land.

Jews are the original indigenous Palestinians.
The Palestinian Arabs are invaders, like all the other Arabs who invaded all the lands outside of Arabia.

I know, you do not care.

So you telling polish, Russian, american Jews that settled there are more indigenous than those that their ancestors were there forever ? Most Israelis dont even look middle easterners but rather European. No wonder jesus has blue eyes and is pale.

I am saying that Jews are from the Land of Israel. That is where their ancestors came from.

Palestinian Arabs cannot have been in the land of Israel, ancient Canaan forever, because Arabs come from Arabia.

All you need to do is think about it.

Do Arabs who go and live in Russia, America, Poland or the UK, stop being indigenous to Arabia?

No.

Jews do not stop being indigenous to the Land of Israel because they spent a few decades or centuries outside of their land, either.

That is not how it works.

Arabs are people that speak Arabic. North Africans are called Arabs but they are, in fact, mostly Berbers, indigenous to Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco etc. Arabians are people from Arabia. The Arabs of Palestine are the descendants of the Christians that were living in Palestine when the Muslims invaded. Many converted to Islam though a good 30% were still Christian before the Jew invasion of Palestine from Europe. Many of the Christians that were living in Palestine before the Muslim invasion were descendants of Jews that converted to Christianity after the birth of Christ and the instatement of Christianity as the state religion of Rome/Byzantium.

The European Jews that invaded Palestine are descendants of Europeans that converted to Judaism. They are not indigenous to the Middle East.

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East"

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

But then again we have:

Genome-Wide Diversity in the Levant Reveals Recent Structuring by Culture

Jews cluster mostly with the Druze and Lebanese Christians while Palestinian Arabs with Saudis, Jordanians and Bedouins :

Thanks for providing additional confirmation, from your link:

"Ashkenazi Jews are drawn towards the Caucasus and Eastern Europe"

 

[rylah]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

 

[montelatici]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

It's been proven through genetics over and over again. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are the descendants of the Christians that were in Palestine prior to the Muslim conquest of Palestine from the Romans. And, the Christians were, most of them, descendants of the people that were living in Palestine before the Romans arrived. How can it be any different.

Yes, Muslims come from as far away as the Phillipines. What does that have to do with anything, Islam is a religion just as Judaism is. As I have always told you, an Inuit can be a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian.

 

[rylah]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

It's been proven through genetics over and over again. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are the descendants of the Christians that were in Palestine prior to the Muslim conquest of Palestine from the Romans. And, the Christians were, most of them, descendants of the people that were living in Palestine before the Romans arrived. How can it be any different.

Yes, Muslims come from as far away as the Phillipines. What does that have to do with anything, Islam is a religion just as Judaism is. As I have always told you, an Inuit can be a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian.

Funny You fail to prove it, but each time I hear the same chest beating.
With You it's the same bs, You read one sentence that, but don't see that the rest of it contradicts Your story.

We can go this way all over again - You provide links and we prove You wrong using just them.
Then You'll claim a great victory and buy a new white hoodie for that club You go to where You discuss blood purity of Jews.

 

[rylah]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

Monte knows it all. Merely repeating the same number from a year ago.
Same self contradictory links, we did miles of conversations on each and every of his self contradictory studies. Nothing new.

 

[montelatici]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

Arabs from North Africa, Arabians, Persians, Russians, Chinese, Pakistani and other Muslims point to Mecca in Arabia. A Tunisian Arab has less Arabian DNA than Sephardic Jews.

The Arabs of Palestine originated in Palestine just as the Arabs of Tunisia originated in Tunisia. Hardly any Arabians went to Palestine outside of a few military officers and governors. Just like the Turks, they arrived to rule, the Ottomans didn't move civilian Turks to Palestine after they conquered the area nor did the Crusaders leave much of a genetic mark, they were all conquerors not settler colonists.


Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin
In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found thatDuring the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "They "were small," and were "decimated" by epidemics within two years after the capture of Jerusalem.


Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

 

[montelatici]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

Monte knows it all. He's repeating the same number from a year ago. Same self contradictory links, same open and banal racism.

Nothing is contradictory or racist, they are just the facts. You people post fantasy and science fiction. That's what gets you Zionist propagandists so riled up, the facts expose you as propagandists posting lies.

 

[rylah]

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

Arabs from North Africa, Arabians, Persians, Russians, Chinese, Pakistani and other Muslims point to Mecca in Arabia. A Tunisian Arab has less Arabian DNA than Sephardic Jews.

The Arabs of Palestine originated in Palestine just as the Arabs of Tunisia originated in Tunisia. Hardly any Arabians went to Palestine outside of a few military officers and governors. Just like the Turks, they arrived to rule, the Ottomans didn't move civilian Turks to Palestine after they conquered the area nor did the Crusaders leave much of a genetic mark, they were all conquerors not settler colonists.


Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin
In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found thatDuring the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "They "were small," and were "decimated" by epidemics within two years after the capture of Jerusalem.


Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

The Muslims of Palestine are descendants of the Christians of Palestine that converted in large numbers to Islam. Both are descendants of the people that practiced earlier religions in the area, Roman religions, Samaritanism, Judaism etc. It's just a fact.

It's just a story You keep telling Yourself, but never able to prove.
But according to Your links- Muslims came from a much wider variety of countries than Jews.

This is not about Muslims, people who can convert to Islam from being indigenous from anywhere in the world.

This is about the Arabs, especially those who are not calling themselves Palestinians, and where they are originated from.

All Arabs point to Arabia as the land where their ancestors came from, especially those who came after the Arab invasion in the 7th century.

Monte likes to fool people by using different words.

Monte knows it all. He's repeating the same number from a year ago. Same self contradictory links, same open and banal racism.

Nothing is contradictory or racist, they are just the facts. You people post fantasy and science fiction. That's what gets you Zionist propagandists so riled up, the facts expose you as propagandists posting lies.

You know these links contradict what You say and You still post them.
"Nothing is contradictory or racist, they are just the facts. You people post fantasy and science fiction."

From Your link:

Look at the list of languages just among the Muslims in 1931:
Afghan
Albanian
Arabic
Bosnian
Chinese
Circassian
English
French
German
Greek
Gypsy
Hebrew
Hindustani
Indian dialects
Javanese
Kurdish
Persian
Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Sudanese
Takrurian
Turkish

Clearly the Christians and Muslims themselves are migrants from virtually every country in the world. Those You call Palestinian Arabs.
But let a Jew speak Russian or even Hebrew... anything BUT Arabic and he's a 'foreigner'.

Q.When did Arabic ever cease to be the language of invaders?