The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[rylah]

Its terrorism to state (truthfully) that the Jewish people have an historical connection to the land of Israel?! Get bent.

For centuries before the Zionist settler colonial project there were no Jews going up to Palestinians with deed in hand claiming his land.

Few, if any, European Zionists had any ancestors from that area. How can they say that they are reclaiming land that was never theirs?

Arabs had no deeds. They invaded in the 7th century. That some are now called Palestinians since 1964, for the sake of destroying their hated Jews' Nation, does not grant them the right to the region of Palestine.
The Arabs had no deeds during the Ottoman time, either. Either one, Jew or Arab, only got to buy land from the Ottoman Empire after 1850 when the Empire began to fall.

Rejecting the connection of any Jew descendant of Jews who lived on the land and made a Nation out of it.

Be ashamed of yourself.

Still, your endless rejectionism and denialism of who the Jews are, will never take away from them the 1 % they worked hard for and GAINED legally to recreate their Nation.

sniff....

You are ducking the issue.

How many European Zionists had ancestors who lost land to the "Arabs?"

All had relatives in Palestine. All had a land named after them.
Jews are a small tribe.

Some Jews from Europe literally lost lands to Arabs in Jerusalem, Jordan and Syria.

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

The evidence is in the Turkish and British records, which the Arabs themselves are reluctant to present fully. What we usually get are big headlines about Arabs claims deeds in Ottoman records but no actual documents are presented in full, exactly because of long record of Jewish deeds and battle for them.
It's a serious court battle Israeli Jews have succeeded in many cases, this is exactly the way Jews implement to return to certain houses in Hebron and Jerusalem - Ottoman records.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel to Translate Ottoman Documents Proving Jews Bought Judea, Samaria Land

 

[Sixties Fan]

https://www.wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf

 

[rylah]

P F Tinmore

I'll tell You even more than that -

Every Jewish community, be it in Iraq, Italy, France or Turkey have a direct deed of participation in buying and keeping land in Israel for millenias, by a network of support, aid and donation between ALL Jewish communities.

Should we start with a list of Shadarim to all European countries with Jewish communities?
Because we do have a loooooong list of people making exactly that connection:

Shadarim

 

[Shusha]

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

The criteria for belonging to a collective Peoples is self-identification and acceptance within the group -- usually because of a shared history and culture. This is the accepted criteria all over the world and for all Peoples. It is the definition of "Palestinian" as a Peoples.

The ridiculousness of claiming that there is no connection between today's Jewish Peoples and the Jewish Peoples in their time and place of origin can not be overstated.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

The criteria for belonging to a collective Peoples is self-identification and acceptance within the group -- usually because of a shared history and culture. This is the accepted criteria all over the world and for all Peoples. It is the definition of "Palestinian" as a Peoples.

The ridiculousness of claiming that there is no connection between today's Jewish Peoples and the Jewish Peoples in their time and place of origin can not be overstated.

You are ducking the question

 

[Shusha]

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

The criteria for belonging to a collective Peoples is self-identification and acceptance within the group -- usually because of a shared history and culture. This is the accepted criteria all over the world and for all Peoples. It is the definition of "Palestinian" as a Peoples.

The ridiculousness of claiming that there is no connection between today's Jewish Peoples and the Jewish Peoples in their time and place of origin can not be overstated.

You are ducking the question

I am pointing out how ridiculous the question is. Peoples don't need "evidence" that they are Peoples.

 

[theliq]

And in your statement you acknowledge YOUR TERRORISM AND UNCONTROLLED HATE...thank you

Its terrorism to state (truthfully) that the Jewish people have an historical connection to the land of Israel?! Get bent.

For centuries before the Zionist settler colonial project there were no Jews going up to Palestinians with deed in hand claiming his land.

Few, if any, European Zionists had any ancestors from that area. How can they say that they are reclaiming land that was never theirs?

Arabs had no deeds. They invaded in the 7th century. That some are now called Palestinians since 1964, for the sake of destroying their hated Jews' Nation, does not grant them the right to the region of Palestine.
The Arabs had no deeds during the Ottoman time, either. Either one, Jew or Arab, only got to buy land from the Ottoman Empire after 1850 when the Empire began to fall.

Rejecting the connection of any Jew descendant of Jews who lived on the land and made a Nation out of it.

Be ashamed of yourself.

Still, your endless rejectionism and denialism of who the Jews are, will never take away from them the 1 % they worked hard for and GAINED legally to recreate their Nation.

sniff....

PALESTINIANS NEVER HATED JEWS and lived with a few real Jews for over a thousand years....the only people who HATE ARE THE ZIONISTS and they hate everyone...it is you who are Shameless and Shameful(look the words up)

 

[Sixties Fan]

1890
The term "Zionism" is coined by an Austrian Jewish publicist Nathan Birnbaum in his journal Self Emancipation and was defined as the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

Timeline of Jewish history - Wikipedia

[ Let us look at Judeophobia in the 19th century alone, before the term Zionism was coined, and before the first Zionist immigration occurred.
Why did Arabs attack real Jews in that century anywhere in Arab conquered land? Or any other century before it?

Weren't the Jews expelled by the Inquisition in Europe Real Jews?
Why would Europe expel them if they were not the real ones.
Easier to just force them to convert back to Christianity, as many actually were.

DIdn't the Nazis consider all the Jews in Europe to be Real Jews, and that is why they ended up killing them, as Husseini, in the Region of Palestine, did not want any more real Jews to come to that region and reclaim their land, and recreate their nation with the Mandate for Palestine? ]

Nineteenth century
The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascus in 1840. On February 5, 1840, Franciscan Capuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. The Turkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East. International outrage led to Ibrahim Pasha in Egypt ordering an investigation. Negotiations in Alexandria eventually secured the unconditional release and recognition of innocence of the nine prisoners still remaining alive (out of thirteen). Later in Constantinople, Moses Montefiore (leader of the British Jewish community) persuaded Sultan Abdülmecid I to issue a firman (edict) intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire:

... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth....

Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[17]

The Dreyfus affair of the late nineteenth century had consequences in the Arab world. Passionate outbursts of antisemitism in France were echoed in areas of French influence, especially Maronite Lebanon. The Muslim Arab press, however, was sympathetic to the falsely accused Captain Dreyfus, and criticized the persecution of Jews in France.[18]

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia

In other words, before Herzl and the need to recreate the Sovereign Jewish Nation on their ancient homeland, All Jews were REAL JEWS.

All the way up to 1948 or 1967, all the Jews in the world were still REAL JEWS.

Sometime "after" 1967 all the Jews who had resided in Europe before they returned to their ancient homeland became "fictional, converted Jews, non indigenous to the Land of Israel"

Those Jews from Europe were suddenly converts from a Central Asian Turcic (Non European) land called Khazar where the monarchy had allegedly converted in the 9th or 10th century CE.

And somehow......they managed not only to end up having European looks (blonde, red hair, blue eyed, green eyed, light skin)
but they also managed to multiply to about 6 or more Millions in number, while remained isolated from most other Christian groups in that continent.


I say.......isn't that a most fantastic people, that they could have succeeded in such an amazing thing, not achieved by any other group in the world?

Khazars......I applaud you. You are more brilliant than all Real Jews put together, from Abraham to David, to Solomon, to Maimonides.
And all the Real Jews who still live on the land "amongst you".


Am Israel Chai !!!

 

[theliq]

1890
The term "Zionism" is coined by an Austrian Jewish publicist Nathan Birnbaum in his journal Self Emancipation and was defined as the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

Timeline of Jewish history - Wikipedia

[ Let us look at Judeophobia in the 19th century alone, before the term Zionism was coined, and before the first Zionist immigration occurred.
Why did Arabs attack real Jews in that century anywhere in Arab conquered land? Or any other century before it?

Weren't the Jews expelled by the Inquisition in Europe Real Jews?
Why would Europe expel them if they were not the real ones.
Easier to just force them to convert back to Christianity, as many actually were.

DIdn't the Nazis consider all the Jews in Europe to be Real Jews, and that is why they ended up killing them, as Husseini, in the Region of Palestine, did not want any more real Jews to come to that region and reclaim their land, and recreate their nation with the Mandate for Palestine? ]

Nineteenth century
The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascus in 1840. On February 5, 1840, Franciscan Capuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. The Turkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East. International outrage led to Ibrahim Pasha in Egypt ordering an investigation. Negotiations in Alexandria eventually secured the unconditional release and recognition of innocence of the nine prisoners still remaining alive (out of thirteen). Later in Constantinople, Moses Montefiore (leader of the British Jewish community) persuaded Sultan Abdülmecid I to issue a firman (edict) intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire:

... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth....

Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[17]

The Dreyfus affair of the late nineteenth century had consequences in the Arab world. Passionate outbursts of antisemitism in France were echoed in areas of French influence, especially Maronite Lebanon. The Muslim Arab press, however, was sympathetic to the falsely accused Captain Dreyfus, and criticized the persecution of Jews in France.[18]

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia

In other words, before Herzl and the need to recreate the Sovereign Jewish Nation on their ancient homeland, All Jews were REAL JEWS.

All the way up to 1948 or 1967, all the Jews in the world were still REAL JEWS.

Sometime "after" 1967 all the Jews who had resided in Europe before they returned to their ancient homeland became "fictional, converted Jews, non indigenous to the Land of Israel"

Those Jews from Europe were suddenly converts from a Central Asian Turcic (Non European) land called Khazar where the monarchy had allegedly converted in the 9th or 10th century CE.

And somehow......they managed not only to end up having European looks (blonde, red hair, blue eyed, green eyed, light skin)
but they also managed to multiply to about 6 or more Millions in number, while remained isolated from most other Christian groups in that continent.


I say.......isn't that a most fantastic people, that they could have succeeded in such an amazing thing, not achieved by any other group in the world?

Khazars......I applaud you. You are more brilliant than all Real Jews put together, from Abraham to David, to Solomon, to Maimonides.
And all the Real Jews who still live on the land "amongst you".


Am Israel Chai !!!

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

 

[theliq]

1890
The term "Zionism" is coined by an Austrian Jewish publicist Nathan Birnbaum in his journal Self Emancipation and was defined as the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

Timeline of Jewish history - Wikipedia

[ Let us look at Judeophobia in the 19th century alone, before the term Zionism was coined, and before the first Zionist immigration occurred.
Why did Arabs attack real Jews in that century anywhere in Arab conquered land? Or any other century before it?

Weren't the Jews expelled by the Inquisition in Europe Real Jews?
Why would Europe expel them if they were not the real ones.
Easier to just force them to convert back to Christianity, as many actually were.

DIdn't the Nazis consider all the Jews in Europe to be Real Jews, and that is why they ended up killing them, as Husseini, in the Region of Palestine, did not want any more real Jews to come to that region and reclaim their land, and recreate their nation with the Mandate for Palestine? ]

Nineteenth century
The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascus in 1840. On February 5, 1840, Franciscan Capuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. The Turkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East. International outrage led to Ibrahim Pasha in Egypt ordering an investigation. Negotiations in Alexandria eventually secured the unconditional release and recognition of innocence of the nine prisoners still remaining alive (out of thirteen). Later in Constantinople, Moses Montefiore (leader of the British Jewish community) persuaded Sultan Abdülmecid I to issue a firman (edict) intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire:

... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth....

Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[17]

The Dreyfus affair of the late nineteenth century had consequences in the Arab world. Passionate outbursts of antisemitism in France were echoed in areas of French influence, especially Maronite Lebanon. The Muslim Arab press, however, was sympathetic to the falsely accused Captain Dreyfus, and criticized the persecution of Jews in France.[18]

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia

In other words, before Herzl and the need to recreate the Sovereign Jewish Nation on their ancient homeland, All Jews were REAL JEWS.

All the way up to 1948 or 1967, all the Jews in the world were still REAL JEWS.

Sometime "after" 1967 all the Jews who had resided in Europe before they returned to their ancient homeland became "fictional, converted Jews, non indigenous to the Land of Israel"

Those Jews from Europe were suddenly converts from a Central Asian Turcic (Non European) land called Khazar where the monarchy had allegedly converted in the 9th or 10th century CE.

And somehow......they managed not only to end up having European looks (blonde, red hair, blue eyed, green eyed, light skin)
but they also managed to multiply to about 6 or more Millions in number, while remained isolated from most other Christian groups in that continent.


I say.......isn't that a most fantastic people, that they could have succeeded in such an amazing thing, not achieved by any other group in the world?

Khazars......I applaud you. You are more brilliant than all Real Jews put together, from Abraham to David, to Solomon, to Maimonides.
And all the Real Jews who still live on the land "amongst you".


Am Israel Chai !!!

What a load of Defecation in one Post...Yah Nuts

 

[Sixties Fan]

1890
The term "Zionism" is coined by an Austrian Jewish publicist Nathan Birnbaum in his journal Self Emancipation and was defined as the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

Timeline of Jewish history - Wikipedia

[ Let us look at Judeophobia in the 19th century alone, before the term Zionism was coined, and before the first Zionist immigration occurred.
Why did Arabs attack real Jews in that century anywhere in Arab conquered land? Or any other century before it?

Weren't the Jews expelled by the Inquisition in Europe Real Jews?
Why would Europe expel them if they were not the real ones.
Easier to just force them to convert back to Christianity, as many actually were.

DIdn't the Nazis consider all the Jews in Europe to be Real Jews, and that is why they ended up killing them, as Husseini, in the Region of Palestine, did not want any more real Jews to come to that region and reclaim their land, and recreate their nation with the Mandate for Palestine? ]

Nineteenth century
The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascus in 1840. On February 5, 1840, Franciscan Capuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. The Turkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East. International outrage led to Ibrahim Pasha in Egypt ordering an investigation. Negotiations in Alexandria eventually secured the unconditional release and recognition of innocence of the nine prisoners still remaining alive (out of thirteen). Later in Constantinople, Moses Montefiore (leader of the British Jewish community) persuaded Sultan Abdülmecid I to issue a firman (edict) intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire:

... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth....

Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[17]

The Dreyfus affair of the late nineteenth century had consequences in the Arab world. Passionate outbursts of antisemitism in France were echoed in areas of French influence, especially Maronite Lebanon. The Muslim Arab press, however, was sympathetic to the falsely accused Captain Dreyfus, and criticized the persecution of Jews in France.[18]

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia

In other words, before Herzl and the need to recreate the Sovereign Jewish Nation on their ancient homeland, All Jews were REAL JEWS.

All the way up to 1948 or 1967, all the Jews in the world were still REAL JEWS.

Sometime "after" 1967 all the Jews who had resided in Europe before they returned to their ancient homeland became "fictional, converted Jews, non indigenous to the Land of Israel"

Those Jews from Europe were suddenly converts from a Central Asian Turcic (Non European) land called Khazar where the monarchy had allegedly converted in the 9th or 10th century CE.

And somehow......they managed not only to end up having European looks (blonde, red hair, blue eyed, green eyed, light skin)
but they also managed to multiply to about 6 or more Millions in number, while remained isolated from most other Christian groups in that continent.


I say.......isn't that a most fantastic people, that they could have succeeded in such an amazing thing, not achieved by any other group in the world?

Khazars......I applaud you. You are more brilliant than all Real Jews put together, from Abraham to David, to Solomon, to Maimonides.
And all the Real Jews who still live on the land "amongst you".


Am Israel Chai !!!

What a load of Defecation in one Post...Yah Nuts

Steve seems to have god scream in his ear all the time.

I am sorry for your ears, Steve. It truly affects the rest of your senses.

Does not like history, does not understand jokes written in a post.




But still....

Am Israel Chai.

The People of Israel Live (being sovereign again of their ancient homeland)

 

[theliq]

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim?

The criteria for belonging to a collective Peoples is self-identification and acceptance within the group -- usually because of a shared history and culture. This is the accepted criteria all over the world and for all Peoples. It is the definition of "Palestinian" as a Peoples.

The ridiculousness of claiming that there is no connection between today's Jewish Peoples and the Jewish Peoples in their time and place of origin can not be overstated.

Wrong again.....I could believe I was an Eskimo or even American or even a Jew or Arab or Jaine but of course it would not be reality and to continue to claim as much would be a LIE,and eventually create MENTAL ILLNESS...of believing in something untrue is True...That is why Zionists are all Mentally Ill....They think Zion but are closer to Mayan,,,Sad so Sad..

I'm theliq...Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure.

 

[theliq]

1890
The term "Zionism" is coined by an Austrian Jewish publicist Nathan Birnbaum in his journal Self Emancipation and was defined as the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel

Timeline of Jewish history - Wikipedia

[ Let us look at Judeophobia in the 19th century alone, before the term Zionism was coined, and before the first Zionist immigration occurred.
Why did Arabs attack real Jews in that century anywhere in Arab conquered land? Or any other century before it?

Weren't the Jews expelled by the Inquisition in Europe Real Jews?
Why would Europe expel them if they were not the real ones.
Easier to just force them to convert back to Christianity, as many actually were.

DIdn't the Nazis consider all the Jews in Europe to be Real Jews, and that is why they ended up killing them, as Husseini, in the Region of Palestine, did not want any more real Jews to come to that region and reclaim their land, and recreate their nation with the Mandate for Palestine? ]

Nineteenth century
The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascus in 1840. On February 5, 1840, Franciscan Capuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. The Turkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East. International outrage led to Ibrahim Pasha in Egypt ordering an investigation. Negotiations in Alexandria eventually secured the unconditional release and recognition of innocence of the nine prisoners still remaining alive (out of thirteen). Later in Constantinople, Moses Montefiore (leader of the British Jewish community) persuaded Sultan Abdülmecid I to issue a firman (edict) intended to halt the spread of blood libel accusations in the Ottoman Empire:

... and for the love we bear to our subjects, we cannot permit the Jewish nation, whose innocence for the crime alleged against them is evident, to be worried and tormented as a consequence of accusations which have not the least foundation in truth....

Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[17]

The Dreyfus affair of the late nineteenth century had consequences in the Arab world. Passionate outbursts of antisemitism in France were echoed in areas of French influence, especially Maronite Lebanon. The Muslim Arab press, however, was sympathetic to the falsely accused Captain Dreyfus, and criticized the persecution of Jews in France.[18]

Antisemitism in the Arab world - Wikipedia

In other words, before Herzl and the need to recreate the Sovereign Jewish Nation on their ancient homeland, All Jews were REAL JEWS.

All the way up to 1948 or 1967, all the Jews in the world were still REAL JEWS.

Sometime "after" 1967 all the Jews who had resided in Europe before they returned to their ancient homeland became "fictional, converted Jews, non indigenous to the Land of Israel"

Those Jews from Europe were suddenly converts from a Central Asian Turcic (Non European) land called Khazar where the monarchy had allegedly converted in the 9th or 10th century CE.

And somehow......they managed not only to end up having European looks (blonde, red hair, blue eyed, green eyed, light skin)
but they also managed to multiply to about 6 or more Millions in number, while remained isolated from most other Christian groups in that continent.


I say.......isn't that a most fantastic people, that they could have succeeded in such an amazing thing, not achieved by any other group in the world?

Khazars......I applaud you. You are more brilliant than all Real Jews put together, from Abraham to David, to Solomon, to Maimonides.
And all the Real Jews who still live on the land "amongst you".


Am Israel Chai !!!

What a load of Defecation in one Post...Yah Nuts

Steve seems to have god scream in his ear all the time.

I am sorry for your ears, Steve. It truly affects the rest of your senses.

Does not like history, does not understand jokes written in a post.




But still....

Am Israel Chai.

The People of Israel Live (being sovereign again of their ancient homeland)

SAD SO SAD,to see someone having a Delusional Breakdown....I want to help you,maybe my soothing,loving hands can gently caress sweet scented oils onto your head and bring you back to health,again....steven

 

[admonit]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

 

[theliq]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

Nope,Just expose THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC ZIONIST,TRASH TALK...how is Downtown Jerusalem these days

 

[Sixties Fan]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

Nope,Just expose THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC ZIONIST,TRASH TALK...how is Downtown Jerusalem these days

When you do succeed.....with the exposing.......let us know.

So far, just like the BDS movement.......

.

Now, is there anything you have to add to this thread about the creation of the State of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate, or are you going to remain off topic?

 

[theliq]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

Nope,Just expose THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC ZIONIST,TRASH TALK...how is Downtown Jerusalem these days

When you do succeed.....with the exposing.......let us know.

So far, just like the BDS movement.......

.

Now, is there anything you have to add to this thread about the creation of the State of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate, or are you going to remain off topic?

Good 60's nice to see you are back with us,crikey I was getting worried about you...really

So it's back to the Baseball Bats again.....keep well,take the pressure off you body and mind.....ps the Only people who created Israel by intelligence,money,deception,murderous brutality,graft and theft were the Zionists....in some ways I have to admire them,if I was that way inclined but thankfully I AM NOT...that is one step too far for me..steve...it was like the worst elements of the Nazis moved on Palestine and succeeded.....Awful

 

[Sixties Fan]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

Nope,Just expose THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC ZIONIST,TRASH TALK...how is Downtown Jerusalem these days

When you do succeed.....with the exposing.......let us know.

So far, just like the BDS movement.......

.

Now, is there anything you have to add to this thread about the creation of the State of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate, or are you going to remain off topic?

Good 60's nice to see you are back with us,crikey I was getting worried about you...really

So it's back to the Baseball Bats again.....keep well,take the pressure off you body and mind.....ps the Only people who created Israel by intelligence,money,deception,murderous brutality,graft and theft were the Zionists....in some ways I have to admire them,if I was that way inclined but thankfully I AM NOT...that is one step too far for me..steve...it was like the worst elements of the Nazis moved on Palestine and succeeded.....Awful

Thank you Mr. Nazi.
You put all the qualities adopted by Christian and Muslim Arabs once Naziism was created and apply it full force against the legal creation of the State of Israel BY the descendants of the Hebrews/Israelites/Judeans/Jews.

Let me show you who was a good friend of the Nazis:

Never-before-seen photos of Palestinian mufti with Hitler ties visiting Nazi Germany

Photos and Documents of Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood


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Not to speak of all the Nazis who moved to Egypt and Syria, and not to Israel:

Old Nazis Never Die


Yes, you are absolutely correct.

<<.it was like the worst elements of the Nazis moved on Palestine and succeeded.....Awful>>

And they continue to succeed in influencing the Arab Christians and Muslims in the endless attempt to destroy Israel.


Too bad for all the Arabs who are dying only for a worthless cause.

 

[theliq]

PATHETIC RAMBLINGS FROM A NON JEW ZIONIST TRASH,TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE.....SHE MENTIONS HOW THE JEWS,WERE EXPELLED AND SLAUGHTERED IN CHRISTIAN EUROPE....NOTE ChRiStIaN

A PLASTIC PIECE OF PROSE FROM A TRUE ZIONIST TERRORIST SYNTHETIC,What FOOL would mutter that Synthetic Khazars(a ghastly people at the best of times) YOU ARE MORE BRILLIANT THAN ALL "REAL JEWS"(60's Words!!!!!!!!)...put together from Abraham to David,to Solomon to ?

Incredibly the writer has admitted he/she/it that Zionists are Synthetic and the Convertion to Jewish forebears is a LIE..WHAT AN IDIOT AND TOTAL DEGREGATION OF THE Real and only Jewish Lineage ....QUITE DISGUSTING but the Zionist Lie of their existence

I was right all along....Banish these none Jews out of Palestine and send them to Babylon...Sinners,where you going to run to,where you gonna hide...st

You can applaud Khazars as much as you like but don't make out you have any claim to the Holy Land of Palestine....you Fraud/s...Judea is for Real Jews NOT SOME LOUSY GROUP OF NON JEWS.....ZIONISTS ARE SICK OF MIND COMPLETELY...GET OUT OF Palestine,you have NO RIGHT TO BE THERE...GO BACK TO WHERE YOU ORIGINALLY CAME.......AND LEAVE THIS LAND TO THE REAL AND ONLY SEMITIC PEOPLES....Real Jews and Palestinians as GOD DECREED.

Do you add water to your whisky?

Nope,Just expose THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC ZIONIST,TRASH TALK...how is Downtown Jerusalem these days

When you do succeed.....with the exposing.......let us know.

So far, just like the BDS movement.......

.

Now, is there anything you have to add to this thread about the creation of the State of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate, or are you going to remain off topic?

Good 60's nice to see you are back with us,crikey I was getting worried about you...really

So it's back to the Baseball Bats again.....keep well,take the pressure off you body and mind.....ps the Only people who created Israel by intelligence,money,deception,murderous brutality,graft and theft were the Zionists....in some ways I have to admire them,if I was that way inclined but thankfully I AM NOT...that is one step too far for me..steve...it was like the worst elements of the Nazis moved on Palestine and succeeded.....Awful

Thank you Mr. Nazi.
You put all the qualities adopted by Christian and Muslim Arabs once Naziism was created and apply it full force against the legal creation of the State of Israel BY the descendants of the Hebrews/Israelites/Judeans/Jews.

Let me show you who was a good friend of the Nazis:

Never-before-seen photos of Palestinian mufti with Hitler ties visiting Nazi Germany

Photos and Documents of Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood


-----------------
Not to speak of all the Nazis who moved to Egypt and Syria, and not to Israel:

Old Nazis Never Die


Yes, you are absolutely correct.

<<.it was like the worst elements of the Nazis moved on Palestine and succeeded.....Awful>>

And they continue to succeed in influencing the Arab Christians and Muslims in the endless attempt to destroy Israel.


Too bad for all the Arabs who are dying only for a worthless cause.

I'm NO NAZI as you know but you will persist in LYING....that mind of your again...SO SAD

The only Group who COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS AND HELPED SEND INNOCENT JEWS TO THE GAS CHAMBERS DELIBERATELY WERE THE ZIONISTS.....MOREOVER IN GERMANY IN THE 1930's CREATED ANTI-SEMITISM...which is the most Ironic thing of all...you need a History Lesson on Zionism...........Ghastly by the way ISRAEL DOES HAVE A NAZI MOVEMENT,mainly ex-Russian Jews...creating much discernment to the Israeli people and the Government....YOU NEED TO GET UP TO SPEED AND REALITY IN 2018 or are you still in 1888,yeah that would be right...Nazi Collaborater...by the way no Nazis went to Syria or Egypt but mainly Argentina and central and South America.....EXCEPT THE NAZI ZIONIST COLLABORATERS who were given safe haven in ISRAEL....you ignorant Fool