The next time some Democrat accuses you of being in a "cult"

[Care4all]

No, tariffs go both ways. Import tariffs and export tariffs. Know your macroeconomics before you run your mouth.

We only decide tariffs and collect tariff tax revenue from our own importers/ importing....not the tariffs another nation has on our goods?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The next time some Democrat accuses you of being in a "cult".........​

It's because you are but too stupid to know it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We only decide tariffs and collect tariff tax revenue from our own importers/ importing....not the tariffs another nation has on our goods?

Our import tariffs are an indirect tax on the other country's exports. Their import taxes are an indirect tax on our exports.

 

[Mac1958]

The next time some Democrat accuses you of being in a "cult".........​

It's because you are but too stupid to know it.


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There are plenty of squabbles within a cult, all of them caused by wrestling for status with the leader and varying degrees of loyalty.

They don't like the word. It describes them well. Tough shit.

 

[Mac1958]

We only decide tariffs and collect tariff tax revenue from our own importers/ importing....not the tariffs another nation has on our goods?

Tariffs are fees (not taxes) paid at time of entry by the American company receiving the goods.

The American company then has to decide what to do about the net cost increase.

The other country has nothing to do with any of that.

The same process works for our exports, on the other side.

 

[Care4all]

Our import tariffs are an indirect tax on the other country's exports. Their import taxes are an indirect tax on our exports.

Huh? Who pays the tariff levy/tax trump puts on goods from another country?

WE DO, the consumer, indirectly.

(the American importer directly)

 

[TemplarKormac]

Huh? Who pays the tariff levy/tax trump puts on goods from another country?

WE DO, the consumer, indirectly.

(the American importer directly)

You asked a question, I answered it. Your new additions were not implied at the time you asked.

Don't change the subject.

But of course, we pay them. Life goes on. You will be mad, I will not. Life is too short to be consumed by your fear and emotions.

 

[elektra]

And what they project in spending, does not take into account interest, which will take the $3.1 Trillion up to $5 Plus Trillion, basically to give a tax break to people that obviously do not need a tax break. Nothing conservative about that, but voting for it is cult-like below a supreme leaders.

You dont care about interest, you dont care about debt.

democrats think they can play political gotcha.


Trump had a logical plan to pay off the entire debt by taxing himself and his friends.

AI says;
Yes, reports from 1999 indicate that Donald Trump, when considering a presidential run as a Reform Party candidate, did propose a plan that included a tax on wealth.
Details of the proposed plan:

• One-time wealth tax: Trump suggested a 14.25 percent tax on the net worth of individuals and trusts starting at $10 million.
• Paying off the national debt: He intended to use the estimated $5.7 trillion in revenue from this tax to pay off the entire federal debt at the time.

 

[jackflash]

Think of this picture and remember who it was that voted together in one lockstep block of 212.


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Humans are NOT herd creatures with the exception of the statist lefties. "No one likes being a herd creature, but somebody has to know how."

 

[Mac1958]

In fairness, this is equal parts cult, neofascism and Mafia family.

It's its own animal. The ugly underbelly of American politics and culture.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dissension is not tolerated in cults

Hell, cults wish they were as cult as Democrats.

 

[BluesLegend]

Think of this picture and remember who it was that voted together in one lockstep block of 212.

Think of this picture WHEN Democrats later try to take credit for the bill. Bookmark the prediction, it's coming.

 

[Care4all]

Tariff costs are incorporated in to the landed cost of the product the importer/whole seller, imports.

Using an example of each entity using a 50% mark up to make it simple::

The whole seller then doubles that landed cost to sell it to the retailer, the store/retailer then doubles that price they pay to the whole seller, to sell it to the consumer.

So if the total cost of the widget is $20 for the importer/whole seller, and there is a 10% tariff on top the importer pays, the total LANDED cost if the widget would be $22 instead of $20.

The importer/whole seller prices it to sell to the retailer at a 50% mark up...etc etc


Importer landed cost at $20@ 50% m/u = $40... the retailer pays, and @ a 50% m/u the retailer prices it at $80....the consumer pays.

Importer landed cost with the tariff cost included...
$22@50% mark up=$44... the retailer pays, and at their 50% m/u the retailer prices it at $88...the consumer pays.

 

[BluesLegend]

This bill raises the SALT cap, something Dems have been screaming about ever since it was introduced. Plenty of Dems work shit jobs for tips. Plenty of Dem seniors will appreciate not paying taxes on their Social Security.

Yet not a single Dem will break with their embittered, defeated, humiliated leaders. This wasn't voting for or against the bill, but simply to advance it to open debate. Their CULT won't even do that.

Dems = petulant spoiled brats! we didn't get everything we want Republicans got something they want we refuse to participate

 

[BluesLegend]

I bet those FOOLS in the Senate thought they could appease the Democrats and get a few votes, WRONG!

 

[JGalt]

Who do you think is paying that massive amount gained by tariffs? It ain't China.

Wrong as usual. China is paying through the nose.

"In 2025, the U.S. has generated $96.9 billion in revenue from tariffs as of June 29, according to Politico. The specific breakdown by country is not available in the provided search results, but there are details on tariffs applied to specific countries, like China, Canada, and Mexico, and the impact of these tariffs. China has faced tariffs as high as 34%, 20%, and 25%, with some delayed until August 12, while Canada and Mexico have faced tariffs of 25% and 10%, respectively. The total revenue from all tariffs in 2025 is estimated to be $2.7 trillion over the next decade, with dynamic revenue effects reducing that amount to $2.334 trillion.


Here's a breakdown of some key points:

• China: Facing a 34% tariff, with some rates delayed and others implemented, including a 25% tariff.
  

• Canada: Faced a 10% tariff on some goods and a 25% tariff on others.
  
  
• Mexico: Faced a 25% tariff.
  
  
• Overall Revenue: The total tariff revenue for 2025, including all countries, is estimated to be $96.9 billion as of June 29, according to Politico.
  
  
• Dynamic Effects: The dynamic effects of the tariffs, which take into account the impact on the economy, reduce the overall revenue by $366 billion over a decade.
  
  
• Historical Context: The 2025 tariffs have raised the average effective tariff rate to its highest since 1909. "
  

 

[Care4all]

You asked a question, I answered it. Your new additions were not implied at the time you asked.

Don't change the subject.

But of course, we pay them. Life goes on. You will be mad, I will not. Life is too short to be consumed by your fear and emotions.

Going through life not caring or concerned about others, is a life I would never want...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Going through life not caring or concerned about others, is a life I would never want...

Well, being overly concerned with others is what we call "obsession." Given my mentality, I couldn't handle that. I worry about those in my immediate sphere. My family and friends.

 

[Care4all]

Wrong as usual. China is paying through the nose.

"In 2025, the U.S. has generated $96.9 billion in revenue from tariffs as of June 29, according to Politico. The specific breakdown by country is not available in the provided search results, but there are details on tariffs applied to specific countries, like China, Canada, and Mexico, and the impact of these tariffs. China has faced tariffs as high as 34%, 20%, and 25%, with some delayed until August 12, while Canada and Mexico have faced tariffs of 25% and 10%, respectively. The total revenue from all tariffs in 2025 is estimated to be $2.7 trillion over the next decade, with dynamic revenue effects reducing that amount to $2.334 trillion.


Here's a breakdown of some key points:

• China: Facing a 34% tariff, with some rates delayed and others implemented, including a 25% tariff.
• 
  
• Canada: Faced a 10% tariff on some goods and a 25% tariff on others.
  
  
• 
  
• Mexico: Faced a 25% tariff.
  
  
• 
  
• Overall Revenue: The total tariff revenue for 2025, including all countries, is estimated to be $96.9 billion as of June 29, according to Politico.
  
  
• 
  
• Dynamic Effects: The dynamic effects of the tariffs, which take into account the impact on the economy, reduce the overall revenue by $366 billion over a decade.
  
  
• 
  
• Historical Context: The 2025 tariffs have raised the average effective tariff rate to its highest since 1909. "

China is NOT PAYING, the American importer pays it, at the port his goods land at.

The Chinese manufacturers no longer own the goods, when put in containers and on board the ship IN China....the American company releases the letter of credit reserved to pay for the completed manufactured goods they bought, and ownership is in the Americans hands from that point on....the American Importer owns the goods, pays for the shipping, insurance on the shipped goods and any tariffs when they arrive at the port destination in the USA.

 

[JGalt]

Well, being overly concerned with others is what we call "obsession." Given my mentality, I couldn't handle that. I worry about those in my immediate sphere. My family and friends.

That's the ticket. If the Democrats want to "save the world", it should begin in their own back yards.