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The Next Greatest Generation?

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Is Generation Y (those born from 1980-1992) the next greatest generation?

Consider:
1. We came of age through 9/11.
2. We volunteered to fight two wars, with nary a complaint.
3. Many of us were just starting our careers when the Great Recession hit.
4. We will be the ones who will clean out of the mess left by the baby-boomer leadership.
5. As we came-of-age, crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, and promiscuity rates all fell, while education rates rose.
6. We are returning to the cultural work ethic and style of the 1950s and early 1960s.
7. We fully expect to have a more difficult time than our parents, and assume all major social programs will collapse by the time we need them.


On the other hand:
1. We are spoiled by technology like never before.
2. We are endlessly optimistic and maintain a sense of entitlement.
3. We tend to put relationships before work.
4. We are resentful of the prior generations who have handed so many problems off to us.

Your thoughts?
 
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The Y generation is not fighting an empire poised to take over the world.

The Y generations depression will only match the one of the 30's if the socialist programs of the Democrats are given full reign.

The Y generation has no more work ethic than any other. Some work hard, others do not.

Y may have it tough, but they are far from the greatest.
 
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Is Generation Y (those born from 1980-1992) the next greatest generation?

Consider:
1. We came of age through 9/11.
2. We volunteered to fight two wars, with nary a complaint.
3. Many of us were just starting our careers when the Great Recession hit.
4. We will be the ones who will clean out of the mess left by the baby-boomer leadership.
5. As we came-of-age, crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, and promiscuity rates all fell, while education rates rose.
6. We are returning to the cultural work ethic and style of the 1950s and early 1960s.
7. We fully expect to have a more difficult time than our parents, and assume all major social programs will collapse by the time we need them.


On the other hand:
1. We are spoiled by technology like never before.
2. We are endlessly optimistic and maintain a sense of entitlement.
3. We tend to put relationships before work.
4. We are resentful of the prior generations who have handed so many problems off to us.

Your thoughts?

When VAST number of our generation have to head off in their hundreds of thousands to die in muddy fields across Europe, let me know.

We don't know the meaning of the word 'sacrifice'.

Yea, times are gonna be hard for a while but we are Americans, suck it up and remember what our grandparents and greatgrandparents died for.
 

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I think this claim is a real stretch... I vote no.
 

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No Great Generation is best know for their incessant pissing and moaning.
 
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When VAST number of our generation have to head off in their hundreds of thousands to die in muddy fields across Europe, let me know.

We don't know the meaning of the word 'sacrifice'.
A fair criticism, but I disagree. Though the scale is by no means comparable, in my experience most are one degree of separation away from the casualties of our wars. I would imagine that of anyone, you would understand the challenges on the homefront.

Though, I must admit, I am biased in that many in my hometown have volunteered to serve.


(call me morbid, but we're overdue for a major war)
 

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Is Generation Y (those born from 1980-1992) the next greatest generation?

no

Consider:
1. We came of age through 9/11.


so? do you think that is all the history this country has? i came of age during the vietnam war and race riots...it was not one major event or day...but a daily grind...


2. We volunteered to fight two wars, with nary a complaint.

bullmal...there have been the same complaints that one always has with war...lack of aftercare..lack of equipment...lack of jobs for returning vets...do you really think that yall are just hot mal? for what, doing what generations before you have done?


3. Many of us were just starting our careers when the Great Recession hit.

as compared to those who lived thru the great depression...hard times are not new


4. We will be the ones who will clean out of the mess left by the baby-boomer leadership.

i will not agrue that the baby boomers have not caused this mess cause we have...i will wait and see about anyone cleaning up the mess

5. As we came-of-age, crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, and promiscuity rates all fell, while education rates rose.

say what? do you really believe that? classic education is a thing of the past


6. We are returning to the cultural work ethic and style of the 1950s and early 1960s.

as in "leave it to beaver" are we really? i dont see a work ethic in the majority of the "entitlement" generation


7. We fully expect to have a more difficult time than our parents, and assume all major social programs will collapse by the time we need them.

well thankfully you have the egos to deal with it...:lol:


On the other hand:
1. We are spoiled by technology like never before.


the future shock amazes me....i think that technology has been a major downfall and removed us from nature etc..causing short attentions spas...look how we drug our own children?

2. We are endlessly optimistic and maintain a sense of entitlement.

i think yall whine a lot....

3. We tend to put relationships before work.

yall tend to put anything you can before work


4. We are resentful of the prior generations who have handed so many problems off to us.

is that new?

Your thoughts?

each generation has the same grandeous opinions of themselves
 

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The next greatest generation are residing in my testicles ready to break loose upon the world bringing justice, hope, art and courage to the world.

Ladies, who will join me and serve your country, nay your very planet?
 

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You are not the first woman to tell me that.

I serve where I can.
 

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I remember once in the Navy I worked with several beautiful women, I fantasized about having sex with all them and low and behold every last one of them became pregnant. For a short time I thought I might have some Yuri Geller-like physic power over creation itself. But then I tried the test of all tests and tried it on the image of Barbara Bush.

It did not work and I could not masturbate for one year afterward.
 
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1. We came of age through 9/11.

so? do you think that is all the history this country has? i came of age during the vietnam war and race riots...it was not one major event or day...but a daily grind...

Did the Vietnam War start with the near-instantaneous death of thousands of Americans? 9/11 had the same psychological effect as Pearl Harbor...and immediately launched us into war, one that we're still fighting.

2. We volunteered to fight two wars, with nary a complaint.

bullmal...there have been the same complaints that one always has with war...lack of aftercare..lack of equipment...lack of jobs for returning vets...
Don't confuse the baby-boomer politicians in DC for my generation.

The women of Code Pink have grey hair.
do you really think that yall are just hot mal? for what, doing what generations before you have done?
History repeats itself.


3. Many of us were just starting our careers when the Great Recession hit.

as compared to those who lived thru the great depression...hard times are not new
History repeats itself.


4. We will be the ones who will clean out of the mess left by the baby-boomer leadership.

i will not agrue that the baby boomers have not caused this mess cause we have...i will wait and see about anyone cleaning up the mess
If my generation does not clean up this mess, the USA will collapse. We're talking 20-30 years down the road.

5. As we came-of-age, crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, and promiscuity rates all fell, while education rates rose.

say what? do you really believe that? classic education is a thing of the past
The statistics don't lie. I suggest you try studying the hard sciences at an American University...it is only more difficult, as there is now exponentially more to know.



6. We are returning to the cultural work ethic and style of the 1950s and early 1960s.

as in "leave it to beaver" are we really?
If the New York Times fashion page is to be believed. Tie-Dye is out.

i dont see a work ethic in the majority of the "entitlement" generation
Then you're looking in the wrong places.


7. We fully expect to have a more difficult time than our parents, and assume all major social programs will collapse by the time we need them.

well thankfully you have the egos to deal with it...:lol:
We have no choice.



On the other hand:
1. We are spoiled by technology like never before.


the future shock amazes me....i think that technology has been a major downfall and removed us from nature etc..causing short attentions spas...look how we drug our own children?
It's not future-shock to us...we can barely remember life before the internet. MS-DOS and NES is our childhood.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC1ArNmQ7zI]YouTube - Mario on the Bottles[/ame]

Only a 20-something would get the awesomeness of this video.

2. We are endlessly optimistic and maintain a sense of entitlement.

i think yall whine a lot....
I wonder what the WWII-vets thought of the Vietnam protests?

3. We tend to put relationships before work.

yall tend to put anything you can before work
That makes you a bona-fide fuddy-duddy.

4. We are resentful of the prior generations who have handed so many problems off to us.

is that new?
Tis why it's a negative.


Your thoughts?[/quote]


each generation has the same grandeous opinions of themselves
The historians who coined the concept of "generations" over twenty years ago are making the claim.

Strauss and Howe state that Generations last the length of time of one phase of life--the same length of time as a turning. Like turnings, generations come in four different archetypes, defined in "The Fourth Turning" as Prophet, Nomad, Hero, and Artist.[2]

* Prophets are values-driven, moralistic, focused on self, and willing to fight to the death for what they believe in- and they can convince other people to join them in the fight. They grow up as the increasingly indulged children of a High, come of age as the young crusaders of an Awakening, enter midlife as moralistic leaders during an Unraveling and are the wise, elder leaders of the next Crisis. The Boomers are an example of a Prophet generation.[2]

* Nomads are ratty, tough, unwanted, diverse, adventurous, and cynical about institutions. They grow up as the underprotected children of an Awakening, come of age as the alienated young adults of an Unraveling, become the pragmatic, midlife leaders of a Crisis and age into tough, post-crisis elders during a High. Generation X and the Lost Generation are examples of Nomad generations.[2]

* Heroes are conventional, powerful, and institutionally driven, with a profound trust in authority. They grow up as the increasingly protected children of an Unraveling, come of age as the Heroic, team-working youth of a Crisis, become energetic and hubristic mid-lifers during a High and become the powerful elders who are attacked in the next Awakening. The G.I. Generation that fought World War II is an example of a Hero generation. Millennials are expected to emerge as the next generation of this example.[2]

* Artists are subtle, indecisive, emotional and compromising, often having to deal with feelings of repression and inner conflict. They grow up as the over-protected children of a Crisis, come of age as the sensitive young adults of a High, rebel as indecisive midlife leaders during an Awakening, and become the empathic elders of an Unraveling. The Silent Generation is an example of an Artist generation.[2] The Homeland Generation is expected to emerge as the next generation of this example.

Each of the four turnings is composed of a unique constellation of generational archetypes. During an Awakening, for example, the children are always a Nomad generation, the young adults a Prophet generation, the mid-lifers an Artist generation, and the elders a Hero generation. During a Crisis, by contrast, the children are always Artists, the young adults are Heroes, the mid-lifers are Nomads, and the elders are Prophets. In "The Fourth Turning", Strauss and Howe state that this has held true with remarkable consistency over 500 years of Anglo-American history, since the birth of modernity.
 
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Only a 20-something would get the awesomeness of this video
I am confident there are retards outside the stated age range who would also think that was an awesome video.
The little fact that the entire thing is retarded does detract from any claim it might have to greatness.
Same with the historian you are trying to quote - did you start two threads on the same topic? How great your generation is (yet to be seen, but unlikely)
 
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Only a 20-something would get the awesomeness of this video
I am confident there are retards outside the stated age range who would also think that was an awesome video.
The little fact that the entire thing is retarded does detract from any claim it might have to greatness.
You're pissed that humans reproduce. Perhaps you should start a thread in the flame zone about it?

Same with the historian you are trying to quote - did you start two threads on the same topic? How great your generation is (yet to be seen, but unlikely)
One is discussing the theory in general (as it applies to everyone), while another discusses the theory as applied to a certain demographic.
 

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So if the theory is just more BS then any conclusion must also be BS.
Too bad we can't test the theory by watching as your generation fails to be great. Or not, I could be surprised, but your generation is pretty whiny and woefully ignorant on a variety of topics.
 

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