The need to make churches pay tax

[GHook93]

esp since they do not endorse the Johnson Amendment but Trump said he repealed it, it may be in the new tax cut , who knows.

Evangelical Faux Churches are popping up everywhere and they serve drinks under the pretense of "Communion". (we have on in our town)

Dan Johnson the Rep who just committed suicide used his home as a tax exempt church, not all were welcome, and they sold beer and drinks under the pretense of Communion, but he didn't quite sell beer, he lied and said it was a donation.

You can read and research the The Pope's Long Con , google it.

Since we can't maintain the division of Church and State, we need to start making churches pay tax, esp those Evan ones on TV.

I hope when the Dems get in and they will, they do this.

Faux preachers have abused this tax free status for far toooo long.

Taxes only Mosques, since Islam is more of a political ideology rather than a religion. Leave the other religions alone.


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[Weatherman2020]

WTF? Not paying taxes is not preferential treatment?
Are you on drugs are just pathetically retarded?

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

they are "NON-PROFIT" entities that serve a social function

So the **** what?

Why does that exempt them from paying sales taxes and property taxes?

because they feed the poor? -------sorta? ?? maybe they just need careful over-sight.
I DO believe that some religious institutions do "CHARITY" work

Really? You think ALL so called nonprofits feed the poor?

Harvard University is a nonprofit.
IKEA is a nonprofit
The NFL is a nonprofit.

These businesses exist in real space. They receive municipal services like any other person or business therefore they should pay the taxes everyone else pays. If they truly have no annual profit then they won't have to pay any income taxes but the others should be paid.

Shitforbrains does not know what "nonprofit" means.

 

[irosie91]

WTF? Not paying taxes is not preferential treatment?
Are you on drugs are just pathetically retarded?

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

they are "NON-PROFIT" entities that serve a social function

So the **** what?

Why does that exempt them from paying sales taxes and property taxes?

because they feed the poor? -------sorta? ?? maybe they just need careful over-sight.
I DO believe that some religious institutions do "CHARITY" work

Really? You think ALL so called nonprofits feed the poor?

Harvard University is a nonprofit.
IKEA is a nonprofit
The NFL is a nonprofit.

These businesses exist in real space. They receive municipal services like any other person or business therefore they should pay the taxes everyone else pays. If they truly have no annual profit then they won't have to pay any income taxes but the others should be paid.

I think that they have to JUSTIFY their non--profit and social service status in some way

 

[irosie91]

esp since they do not endorse the Johnson Amendment but Trump said he repealed it, it may be in the new tax cut , who knows.

Evangelical Faux Churches are popping up everywhere and they serve drinks under the pretense of "Communion". (we have on in our town)

Dan Johnson the Rep who just committed suicide used his home as a tax exempt church, not all were welcome, and they sold beer and drinks under the pretense of Communion, but he didn't quite sell beer, he lied and said it was a donation.

You can read and research the The Pope's Long Con , google it.

Since we can't maintain the division of Church and State, we need to start making churches pay tax, esp those Evan ones on TV.

I hope when the Dems get in and they will, they do this.

Faux preachers have abused this tax free status for far toooo long.

Taxes only Mosques, since Islam is more of a political ideology rather than a religion. Leave the other religions alone.


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could be-----but at least they don't serve drinks (openly)

 

[BulletProof]

No... that's not correct. Unless someone is a family member or they have a certificate showing they are a non-profit organization, you can't just give someone $50K without them being taxed.

Wrong, you can just give anyone $50K without them being them being taxed. You are factually and completely wrong. Thank you for playing, "Celebration of Ignorance!", the favorite game of libtards and fucktards everywhere!

No... you can't. This is about to get embarrassing for you.

Gift Tax: Don’t Fear Taxes When You Give (Or Receive) - Money Under 30

You're too ******* stupid to understand, as well as unworthy, but I'll explain it to you anyway. The gift tax applies to the giver, not the person it's given to. So, right from the start, your link isn't even relevant to the organizations and the people that are given money. Because you're probably too foolish to believe me, the only honest person in your life, believe your own link, "Recipients never pay." That alone refutes the shitheads in this thread whining about churches getting special treatment for not paying taxes on offerings.

Anyway, the gift tax is not a tax on the money given. The amount of money you give to others, in your entire life, no matter how much, even a billion dollars, doesn't add a single penny to your taxes. Do you understand, fucktard? If you disagree, then tell me how it does. Use your words.

Also, fucktard, the gift tax has no relevancy, none at all, to any money given to any non-profit organization. It's not even relevant to any money you give to a random stranger on the street. If you didn't have a small brain, you would have gleaned that from the article you linked to. So, you're wrong for yet another reason.

The gift tax exists to attempt to prevent people from avoiding paying taxes on income from capital gains. If you reject the simple stuff, I sure as **** aren't going it to explain this to you.

This is about to get embarrassing for you.

Embarrassment? I'm right in every dispute, every time. Why? Because I don't take pride in being an ignorant fucktard, like most people do.

 

[irosie91]

No... that's not correct. Unless someone is a family member or they have a certificate showing they are a non-profit organization, you can't just give someone $50K without them being taxed.

Wrong, you can just give anyone $50K without them being them being taxed. You are factually and completely wrong. Thank you for playing, "Celebration of Ignorance!", the favorite game of libtards and fucktards everywhere!

No... you can't. This is about to get embarrassing for you.

Gift Tax: Don’t Fear Taxes When You Give (Or Receive) - Money Under 30

You're too ******* stupid to understand, as well as unworthy, but I'll explain it to you anyway. The gift tax applies to the giver, not the person it's given to. So, right from the start, your link isn't even relevant to the organizations and the people that are given money. Because you're probably too foolish to believe me, the only honest person in your life, believe your own link, "Recipients never pay." That alone refutes the shitheads in this thread wining about churches getting special treatment for not paying taxes on offerings.

Anyway, the gift tax is not a tax on the money given. The amount of money you give to others, in your entire life, no matter how much, even a billion dollars, doesn't add a single penny to your taxes. Do you understand, fucktard? If you disagree, then tell me how it does. Use your words.

Also, fucktard, the gift tax has no relevancy, none at all, to any money given to any non-profit organization. It's not even relevant to any money you give to a random stranger on the street. If you didn't have a small brain, you would have gleaned that from the article you linked to. So, you're wrong for yet another reason.

The gift tax exists to attempt to prevent people from avoiding paying taxes on income from capital gains. If you reject the simple stuff, I sure as **** aren't going it to explain this to you.

This is about to get embarrassing for you.

Embarrassment? I'm right in every dispute, every time. Why? Because I don't take pride in being an ignorant fucktard, like most people do.

I will help------you cannot hide income by giving it to your kids

 

[martybegan]

So you would be ok denying services to poor people who don't pay taxes as well?

Poor people are not legally exempt from any taxes. They still have to pay income tax if their AGI is high enough, they still pay sales taxes, excise taxes, and they do pay property taxes if they own a home or even if they rent as the rent calculation takes into account the landlord's property taxes.

Why do we give churches and so called nonprofits a pass on the taxes everyone else pays.

All any business has to do to be nonprofit is to show zero profit at the end of every year there is no special status needed.

Now sales and property taxes from which these so called nonprofits and churches are exempt are used to fund municipal services which these churches and so called nonprofit businesses use by giving them a pass you are forcing all American citizens to subsidize religion and so called nonprofits aren't you?

AND since these entities have this preferential tax status, the government can censor the clergy of any church and the board of directors of any nonprofit

and that is another violation of the first amendment

I don't care about it because I am not a butthurt anti-religious bigot.

"Fuh fuh fuh, prove no profit, fuh fuh fuh"

Funny how you're the one screaming bigot. I don't give a flying or any other kind of **** what god you worship why do you want people who don't worship your god to support your religious institutions?

They are not supporting them. Again with the "no taxes is robbing the rest of us" bullshit.

So when the fire department puts out a fire in the church the people's taxes didn't pay for that?

Does the church reimburse the town for the costs? Do the parishioners? No.

So burn churches burn?

 

[martybegan]

You are not supporting anything. It's not like you always use police, or fire services. They are background services available to all, even those who don't pay taxes, such as visitors.

Of course we are.

And visitors still pay sales taxes when they visit don't they?

These so called background services need to be paid for by anyone who may use them. There is no reason to give any establishment a pass on any taxes

Priests pay sales taxes on items not having to do with religious services or charitable work.

So what?

The church pays no sales taxes on anything it buys. The church pays no property taxes on any of it's land or buildings

And unlike your miserable self, I don't have an issue with it.

Well then again you believe in a magic sky fairy

I believe in the possibility of something bigger than us that we can't comprehend.

You prefer to bury your head in the sand and ignore your own mortality and the bigger questions included in that.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

First...the notion that churches don't pay taxes is wrong. Every single employee of a church paid by offerings/donations...pays income taxes. Depending on the church, that is usually a fair amount of the weekly donations.
Secondly, what is a church?
A church is the members. And all members of a church pay income taxes. The donations they make have already been taxed once.
Just sayin

 

[Weatherman2020]

YOUR taxes? WTF are you talking about? You think everything with In God We Trust is YOURS?

Typical retarded leftist dreaming his commie dreams.

Yes my taxes.

The taxes I pay are used to provide municipal services to religious establishments who pay no taxes.

And You sheep need to make up your minds, some of you idiots call me right wing other of you idiots call me left wing.

So you want to tax Pablo with a family of 4 trying to live on $15 an hour.

What a pathetic person you are for hating the poor so much.

But he doesn't have any preferential tax exempt status does he? He pays sales taxes, he pays property taxes if he owns a home and even if he rents a portion of that rent is used to pay property taxes.

WHy can't the church or any other so called nonprofit pay them as well?

WTF? Not paying taxes is not preferential treatment?
Are you on drugs are just pathetically retarded?

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

47% of America pays no Federal taxes and leftard wants them to pay as much as everyone else.

Oh my.

 

[Weatherman2020]

First...the notion that churches don't pay taxes is wrong. Every single employee of a church paid by offerings/donations...pays income taxes. Depending on the church, that is usually a fair amount of the weekly donations.
Secondly, what is a church?
A church is the members. And all members of a church pay income taxes. The donations they make have already been taxed once.
Just sayin

He just wants to crush anyone offering help to the poor.

 

[BulletProof]

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

Skull Pilot, you're an ignorant, hateful fucktard. Again, how are churches getting preferential treatment when they're treated the same as all non-profits? Ignorant bigot, the First Amendment addresses religious freedom, not non-profit organizations. And concerning the real First Amendment, "Congress" doesn't lay property taxes on any business, individual, or non-profit. So, again, where's the special treatment?

Hey fuctkard, the local public schools not only receive government services, they're wholly paid for by the taxpayers. Why the **** should they get a penny of tax dollars when a non-profit school, that serves the same function, gets no tax dollars? Why are you bitching about someone getting a small tax break while you have no objection to someone living fully on the taxpayers' back? Because you're a bigoted fucktard.

If you can put aside your ignorant hate, we can discuss whether churches should pay property taxes.

 

[dblack]

Of course. And believe it or not, you can do that without coercion.

Bullies usually don't respond to pretty please.

Defending yourself is not coercion. Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary!

Word games.

Definitions.

Bottom line, we live in a shared society with shared consequences. Stances must be taken.

That's fine. As long as they don't boil down to one group forcing it's will on another. But all too often, with ambitious social programs, that's the case.

Of course we will force our will on others. That's how one takes a stand.

Heh. I realize that's how you see it. That's the problem.

 

[Penelope]

esp since they do not endorse the Johnson Amendment but Trump said he repealed it, it may be in the new tax cut , who knows.

Evangelical Faux Churches are popping up everywhere and they serve drinks under the pretense of "Communion". (we have on in our town)

Dan Johnson the Rep who just committed suicide used his home as a tax exempt church, not all were welcome, and they sold beer and drinks under the pretense of Communion, but he didn't quite sell beer, he lied and said it was a donation.

You can read and research the The Pope's Long Con , google it.

Since we can't maintain the division of Church and State, we need to start making churches pay tax, esp those Evan ones on TV.

I hope when the Dems get in and they will, they do this.

Faux preachers have abused this tax free status for far toooo long.

Taxes only Mosques, since Islam is more of a political ideology rather than a religion. Leave the other religions alone.


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Well gee, Evangelical is also a political animal.

 

[Penelope]

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

Skull Pilot, you're an ignorant, hateful fucktard. Again, how are churches getting preferential treatment when they're treated the same as all non-profits? Ignorant bigot, the First Amendment addresses religious freedom, not non-profit organizations. And concerning the real First Amendment, "Congress" doesn't lay property taxes on any business, individual, or non-profit. So, again, where's the special treatment?

Hey fuctkard, the local public schools not only receive government services, they're wholly paid for by the taxpayers. Why the **** should they get a penny of tax dollars when a non-profit school, that serves the same function, gets no tax dollars? Why are you bitching about someone getting a small tax break while you have no objection to someone living fully on the taxpayers' back? Because you're a bigoted fucktard.

If you can put aside your ignorant hate, we can discuss whether churches should pay property taxes.

Lets see , because they are public schools.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Stalin closed all of the churches in the Ukraine and took all of their possessions. In the next few years he starved 5 million Ukranians to death.

That is the end game desired by the left in every scenerio.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You MORON. Every individual files the same tax return. Every individual has to pay if his adjusted gross income meets a certain threshold.

Every individual pays sales and property taxes.

Churches and so called nonprofits pay no taxes yet they still receive government services.

Let's not forget that these are businesses, legal entities, not people.

The fact that religious establishments by law receive preferential tax treatment is a violation of the first amendment

Skull Pilot, you're an ignorant, hateful fucktard. Again, how are churches getting preferential treatment when they're treated the same as all non-profits? Ignorant bigot, the First Amendment addresses religious freedom, not non-profit organizations. And concerning the real First Amendment, "Congress" doesn't lay property taxes on any business, individual, or non-profit. So, again, where's the special treatment?

Hey fuctkard, the local public schools not only receive government services, they're wholly paid for by the taxpayers. Why the **** should they get a penny of tax dollars when a non-profit school, that serves the same function, gets no tax dollars? Why are you bitching about someone getting a small tax break while you have no objection to someone living fully on the taxpayers' back? Because you're a bigoted fucktard.

If you can put aside your ignorant hate, we can discuss whether churches should pay property taxes.

Lets see , because they are public schools.

That pay no taxes and get free fire and police services.

 

[Penelope]

Stalin closed all of the churches in the Ukraine and took all of their possessions. In the next few years he starved 5 million Ukranians to death.

That is the end game desired by the left in every scenerio.

Actually that is the Pub game plan.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Stalin closed all of the churches in the Ukraine and took all of their possessions. In the next few years he starved 5 million Ukranians to death.

That is the end game desired by the left in every scenerio.

Actually that is the Pub game plan.

Yeah, Republicans are tripping over themselves calling for churches to be shutdown.

Moron.

 

[BulletProof]

Lets see , because they are public schools.

Then lets Let's make churches "public" and have taxpayers support them. I'm glad we could solve the fucktard complaint about churches getting special treatment.