Neo-Nazi Jihad Joe keeps using his comical "Axis Mikey" nickname because, well, one, he's not too bright, and two, now that he's openly repeating Hitler's claim that the Jews wrecked Germany and most of Europe after WWI, and now that he's actually doubling down on the obscene neo-Nazi claim that the Jews provoked the Holocaust, he needs to try to offset his open neo-Nazism with his silly nickname for me.
Frankly, it shows what an inept knob that Zhang was, that he 1) sided with a traitorous scum like Wang and 2) fumbled a sensible offensive with a 10-1 advantage. Treasonous AND incompetent.
But that's not the point. Leaving aside the fact that Fakui (Zhang Fakui) won battles and was awarded with several commands by Chaing Kai-Shek, the point is that you brazenly lied about Fakui's relationship with Chiang Kai-Shek.
When I pointed out that Fakui admitted the Chinese were the aggressors in the fighting at Shanghai, you said his admission didn't matter because he defected to Jengwei during the war and thus would naturally blame the Chinese for the Shanghai battle. But, as you surely knew, Fakui only sided with Jengwei for a few weeks and only did so long before the war started. Fakui served Chiang faithfully throughout the war.
No, guy, you avoided it. You keep pretending the Japanese weren't the aggressors in China, and that somehow, it was China's fault when the Japanese kept attacking them over and over again.
You know that's another lie, as anyone can see by reading my earlier replies in this thread. The picture is far complicated than your simplistic version of events. You keep pretending that the Japanese had no valid reason for being in China, that the Japanese were always the aggressors, and that the poor little ole' Chinese were merely innocent victims of ruthless aggression.
Oh! You "guess" the Nazis' mass murder and repression of the Jews was "bad"?! You "guess"?! Wow! Decent, sane people don't need to "guess" about this. There's nothing to "guess" about.
But then I look at how your hero Trump demonizes undocumented immigrants, (which I'm sure you fully support) and I remember, no one was starving to death recently.
Nobody talks about it because it's not polite to talk about it. Not that it didn't happen. Just limiting what they did in Germany. They overthrew the Kaiser in the middle of a war and then they took advantage of the economic chaos. None of this JUSTIFIES what the Nazis did, but it did explain why so many Germans went along with it at the time.
Go back and read what I actually said, and then put away your sissy emotions before you soil your magic underwear.
I pointed out that there were MULTIPLE factors as to why Germans turned on the Jews so viciously. (Ironically, most German Jews got the hell out of Germany before the War started. The Jews who were killed were Poles, Russians and Hungarians, mostly.)
No, they never really had the high ground. They've always been an apartheid state who have been oppressing an indigenous people. The ironic thing is that now that Jews are considered "White enough", they immediately exhibit the worst behaviors of white people. They are like abused children who got big enough to abuse someone else.
"I don't know why those college kids are protesting us on campus."
Humm, well, I don't see any need to say anything else, except to state that I'm glad you keep repeating your neo-Nazi propaganda about Jews and Israel.
Neo-Nazi Joe keeps using his comical "Axis Mikey" nickname because, well, one, he's not too bright, and two, now that he's openly repeating Hitler's claim that the Jews wrecked Germany and most of Europe after WWI, and how that he's actually doubling down on the obscene neo-Nazi claim that the Jews provoked the Holocaust, he needs to try to offset his open neo-Nazism with his silly nickname for me.
They didn't provoke the holocaust. The Germans did have a valid grievance, though.
Kind of like if someone catches his wife cheating, he has a valid grievance. It's still a crime for him to shoot his wife and her lover dead, though.
So let's review. World War I, a bunch of Jewish revolutionaries like Hugo Hasse, Otto Landesberg, Rosa Luxemburg, Kurt Eisner, were responsible for the 1918 revolution that toppled the Kaiser. This is a historical fact.
And the government they formed presided over the worst period in German History up to that point. Starvation, depression, a humiliating peace treaty.
Check this out, this was a cartoon from 1919. The Nazi Party wasn't even a thing yet, but people knew what the score was.
But that's not the point. Leaving aside the fact that Fakui (Zhang Fakui) won battles and was awarded with several command, the point is that you brazenly lied about Fakui's relationship with Chiang Kai-Shek.
What battles? The Japanese rolled the Nationalists on a regular basis. The Japanese were STILL gaining territory in China in 1945 when the Axis had been effectively crushed in the rest of the world.
When I pointed out that Fakui admitted the Chinese were the aggressors in the fighting at Shanghai, you said his admission didn't matter because he defected to Jengwei during the war and thus would naturally blame the Chinese for the Shanghai battle. But, as you surely knew, Fakui only sided with Jengwei for a few weeks and only did so long before the war started, and Fakui served Chiang faithfully throughout the war.
He defected to Wang Jengwei during Wang's struggles with Chiang. Then he defected back. Then Wang became a Japanese quisling, and Zhang was pretty half-ass about fighting them. He was kind of a weasel. That Chiang kept giving him commands and he kept getting rolled by the Japanese (seriously, did anyone check his bank account) should have been a big old red flag.
You know that's another lie, as anyone can see by reading my earlier replies in this thread. The picture is far complicated than your simplistic version of events. You keep pretending that the Japanese had no valid reason for being in China, that the Japanese were always the aggressors, and that the poor little ole' Chinese were merely innocent victims of ruthless aggression.
The Japanese were the aggressors.
They had no valid reason to invade China or take China's territory
The Chinese were the victims of Japanese aggression.
Other than the guy with the Japanese poop fetish name, no one has come on this thread and said, "Yeah, the Chinese really had that shit coming!!!"
Oh! You "guess" the Nazis' mass murder and repression of the Jews was "bad"?! You "guess"?! Wow! Decent, sane people don't need to "guess" about this. There's nothing to "guess" about.
I just can't get worked up about shit that happened before I was born. What Japan did in China was worse than what Hitler did to the Jews of Europe. (And Hitler's original plan was to deport them all to Palestine, ironically enough. The British vetoed that plan.) And you excuse it.
Well, I don't see any need to say much about your anti-Semitic ranting, except to say that I'll just let you keep repeating your neo-Nazi propaganda about Jews and Israel.
In JoeB131's neo-Nazi/pro-Hamas/anti-Semitic world, the Jews provoked Hitler's animosity by supposedly wrecking Germany after WWI. According to him, it is a "historical fact" that the Jews wrecked Germany and most of Europe after the war, and that the only reason "no one likes to talk about it" is that they feel sad about the Holocaust. He has actually doubled down on this craziness for several replies now.
He seems oblivious to how badly he has discredited himself by peddling such garbage.
And, as you know, he continues to peddle the Communist version of the Sino-Japanese War: that the Japanese were always the aggressors, that the Japanese had no right or valid reason to be in any part of China, and that the Chinese were always merely and only the innocent victims. Even Jonathan Clements' noticeably anti-Japanese portrayal of the war, Japan at War in the Pacific: The Rise and Fall of the Japanese Empire in Asia: 1868-1945 (Tuttle Publishing, 2022) does not take such an extreme position. (Incidentally, Clements also rejects Iris Chang's figure of 300,000-plus civilians killed in the Nanking Massacre: he puts the total number of dead, including Chinese soldiers, at around 200,000.)
Uh, guy, it wasn't Hitler who was just the problem, it was millions of other Germans who ended up eating their pets after the war. Now, if you want to downplay the roll Jewish revolutionaries played in toppling the Kaiser, or how Jewish Bankers screwed Germany in the economic turmoil that occurred in the 1920's, that's fine.
The problem with most analysis of Nazism is that it ignores what an absolute shit-show Weimar Germany was.
Or that even the smartest most civilized people can become savages when pushed far enough.
And, as you know, he continues to peddle the Communist version of the Sino-Japanese War: that the Japanese were always the aggressors, that the Japanese had no right or valid reason to be in any part of China, and that the Chinese were always merely and only the innocent victims. Even Jonathan Clements' noticeably anti-Japanese portrayal of the war, Japan at War in the Pacific: The Rise and Fall of the Japanese Empire in Asia: 1868-1945 (Tuttle Publishing, 2022) does not take such an extreme position. (Incidentally, Clements also rejects Iris Chang's figure of 300,000-plus civilians killed in the Nanking Massacre: he puts the total number of dead, including Chinese soldiers, at around 200,000.)
Ooooh, another White Man telling Chinese people to SUCK IT UP, BITCHES.
Japan had no business in China. Zero. Zip. They shouldn't have been in Korea, either, for that matter. The worst thing you can say about the Japanese is they looked at White people, saw our horrible behavior, and said, "yeah, man, we need to be doing that stuff to our fellow Asians!!!"
They were waging a war of aggression because they wanted China's resources. They hadn't been screwed over in an unjust peace in a previous war. Quite the contrary, the world turned a blind eye to Japan's aggression from 1895 to 1941, and that was the problem.
Uh, guy, it wasn't Hitler who was just the problem, it was millions of other Germans who ended up eating their pets after the war. Now, if you want to downplay the roll Jewish revolutionaries played in toppling the Kaiser, or how Jewish Bankers screwed Germany in the economic turmoil that occurred in the 1920's, that's fine.
LOL. Just keep doubling-down on peddling Nazi propaganda. And, oh my, so now you're peddling Nazi propaganda about the "Jewish Bankers."
And I see you still haven't admitted that you tried to mislead people about General Fakui, Chiang Kai-Shek, and who started the large-scale fighting in Shanghai. You're still lying and weasel-wording on the issue.
Yeah, according to you, the Jews provoked Hitler to murder them because they supposedly wrecked Germany after WWI. You said you "guess" that what Hitler did was bad. Gee, ya think?! You "guess"! I suppose your view is understandable since you believe that Hitler had valid reasons to hate the Jews.
And I see you still haven't admitted that you tried to mislead people about General Fakui, Chiang Kai-Shek, and who started the large-scale fighting in Shanghai. You're still lying and weasel-wording on the issue.
Ooooh, another White Man telling Chinese people to SUCK IT UP, BITCHES.
Japan had no business in China. Zero. Zip. They shouldn't have been in Korea, either, for that matter. The worst thing you can say about the Japanese is they looked at White people, saw our horrible behavior, and said, "yeah, man, we need to be doing that stuff to our fellow Asians!!!"
They were waging a war of aggression because they wanted China's resources. They hadn't been screwed over in an unjust peace in a previous war. Quite the contrary, the world turned a blind eye to Japan's aggression from 1895 to 1941, and that was the problem.
You don't even know the basics about the Sino-Japanese War. I bet you cannot name one non-communist author who endorses your extreme anti-Japanese position.
You keep lying about General Fakui, falsely painting him as incompetent, when in fact he was a capable general. Heck, even the Wikipedia article on him points this out.
You ignorantly complain that Fakui lost the Battle of Shanghai even though he had a much larger force, but a freshman grad student in Asian history could explain to you that the Fakui's forces were badly under-armed compared to the Japanese; they did not have the weaponry, not to mention the air support, that the Japanese had. Furthermore, despite being badly under-armed, Fakui's army put up fierce resistance, so much so that the Japanese were shocked by the losses they suffered in the battle. They thought the Chinese army in Shanghai would be a pushover and were not expecting such stiff resistance.
You also keep lying about Chiang Kai-Shek as a general, falsely painting him as incompetent, when in fact he won some any battles and greatly slowed the Japanese advance, even halting it in some places. General Anami was recalled to Tokyo because his forces were badly beaten by Chiang's forces. Oddly, you keep ignoring the fact that Chiang's forces usually lacked the weaponry and air support that Japanese forces had.
And, I'll note again that you still haven't admitted that you tried to mislead people about General Fakui, Chiang Kai-Shek, and who started the large-scale fighting in Shanghai. You're still lying and weasel-wording on the issue.
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And I see you still haven't admitted that you tried to mislead people about General Fakui, Chiang Kai-Shek, and who started the large-scale fighting in Shanghai. You're still lying and weasel-wording on the issue.
Um. Okay.
Fakui was a feckless idiot who palled around with traitor Wang Jingwei.
Chaing was a feckless idiot who kept appointing this knob to commands and wondering why the Japanese kept rolling them
Japan had no business being in Shanghai to start with.
Yeah, according to you, the Jews provoked Hitler to murder them because they supposedly wrecked Germany after WWI. You said you "guess" that what Hitler did was bad. Gee, ya think?! You "guess"! I suppose your view is understandable since you believe that Hitler had valid reasons to hate the Jews.
Again, Hitler wasn't the problem. The problem was your average German who had to eat the family dog in 1919 because the feckless idiots overthrew the Kaiser and forced a humiliating peace.
You don't even know the basics about the Sino-Japanese War. I bet you cannot name one non-communist author who endorses your extreme anti-Japanese position.
Well, Iris Chang, to start with, but you probably think she was a Commie. Everyone who doesn't agree with your greed is good philosophy is a commie. That's the problem when you belong to a cult that started as a money-making scam.
You ignorantly complain that Fakui lost the Battle of Shanghai even though he had a much larger force, but a freshman grad student in Asian history could explain to you that the Fakui's forces were badly under-armed compared to the Japanese; they did not have the weaponry, not to mention the air support, that the Japanese had. Furthermore, despite being badly under-armed, Fakui's army put up fierce resistance, so much so that the Japanese were shocked by the losses they suffered in the battle. They thought the Chinese army in Shanghai would be a pushover and were not expecting such stiff resistance.
"Darn, how do all these Chinese Babies keep ending up stuck to our bayonets!!!"
**** off, Mormon ****.
The fact is, he outnumbered the Japanese 10 to 1, and STILL lost. Stalin or Hitler would have shot him for incompetence. Chiang kept giving the guy new commands.
You also keep lying about Chiang Kai-Shek as a general, falsely painting him as incompetent, when in fact he won some any battles and greatly slowed the Japanese advance, even halting it in some places. General Anami was recalled to Tokyo because his forces were badly beaten by Chiang's forces. Oddly, you keep ignoring the fact that Chiang's forces usually lacked the weaponry and air support that Japanese forces had.
Chiang was a knob. His allies had no respect for him. The Japanese were still gaining ground in 1944 when the Axis was being beaten back everywhere else in the world. General Stilwell called him "Peanut".
And after the war was done, the Chinese people couldn't show him the door fast enough.
While China reveres Mao, Taiwan treats Chiang like the crazy uncle they don't like to talk about.
Right, keep doubling-down on your Nazi talking point that the Jews wrecked Germany and most of Europe after WWI. I'll keep "pretending" that your nutcase claims about Jewish bankers are nutty, and you keep peddling your Nazi propaganda. Deal.
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However, exposure to failing banks also mattered through non-economic channels. After controlling for changes in economic fundamentals, higher DD exposure by local firms directly increased Nazi voting above and beyond its direct effect through falling incomes. While the Nazis’ message was similar across Germany, it had greater success in cities affected by DD failures. With the financial crisis, the Nazis had seemingly incontrovertible proof for their misguided theories of Jewish domination and destruction. As in many other countries, Jews were vastly overrepresented in 1930s German high finance (Mosse 1987). Nazi propaganda consistently blamed the Jewish population for Germany’s economic ills – one infamous cartoon in Der Stürmer, a Nazi weekly, showed a gigantic, obese Jewish banker hanging a starving German businessman (Figure 5). Goebbels, later Minister for Propaganda, instructed party propagandists to emphasise that the banking crisis validated the party’s anti-Semitic line. [MG emphasis]
Yikes! And you are doing exactly what Herr Goebbels said to do: citing the banking crisis as evidence that the Jews caused the animosity that Hitler and the Nazis felt toward them, as evidence that the Jews wrecked Germany after the WWI!
I'm seriously starting to question your intelligence. So now you're peddling once again the lie that Fakui "palled around" with "traitor Wang Jingwei." To repeat what I've already explained to you: Fakui only sided with Jingwei for a few weeks, and did so well before the war started--after that, he remained loyal to Chiang, which is why Chiang gave him several important commands.
Even the Wikipedia page on Fakui paints a favorable picture of Fakui as a general, but you can't even admit this much about him.
To refresh everyone's memory, two weeks ago, Neo-Nazi Jew-Slandering JoeB131 falsely claimed that Fakui sided with Jingwei during the war with the Japanese and that this was why his admission that the Chinese were the aggressors at Shanghai was worthless.
Chaing was a feckless idiot who kept appointing this knob to commands and wondering why the Japanese kept rolling them
Japan had no business being in Shanghai to start with. See. That was simple.
Again, Hitler wasn't the problem. The problem was your average German who had to eat the family dog in 1919 because the feckless idiots overthrew the Kaiser and forced a humiliating peace.
Ohhhhhhhh! Myyyyyyyy! "Hitler wasn't the problem"???????? Right, it was those vermin Jews, especially the Jewish bankers, who wrecked Germany after the war!!! Their dastardly deeds were the cause of Hitler's animosity toward them!
Just wow. You really can't help yourself. Your hatred of the Jews is so visceral that you can't help but blurt out the Nazi lies that you believe are facts.
LOL! So other than the mentally disturbed, paranoid, and suicidal Iris Chang, you can't cite a single non-communist author who supports your rabid Chinese Communist version of the war, much less a reputable and recognized author who does so. Duly noted.
Everyone who doesn't agree with your greed is good philosophy is a commie. That's the problem when you belong to a cult that started as a money-making scam.
I've already discussed some of the many scholars who provide a balanced analysis of the Sino-Japanese War and who reject the propaganda line that the Japanese were always the aggressors, that the Japanese had no valid and/or legal reasons to be in China, that the Chinese were merely the victims of relentless Japanese aggression, etc., etc. Those scholars include some of the biggest names in Asia and Sino-Japanese War scholarship.
"Darn, how do all these Chinese Babies keep ending up stuck to our bayonets!!!" The fact is, he outnumbered the Japanese 10 to 1, and STILL lost. Stalin or Hitler would have shot him for incompetence. Chiang kept giving the guy new commands. Chiang was a knob. His allies had no respect for him. The Japanese were still gaining ground in 1944 when the Axis was eing beaten back everywhere else in the world. General Stilwell called him "Peanut". And after the war was done, the Chinese people couldn't show him the door fast enough. While China reveres Mao, Taiwan treats Chiang like the crazy uncle they don't like to talk about.
Yes, we get it: Mass murderer Mao Tse-Tung was a great leader who is still revered by all Chinese, while Chiang Kai-Shek was a brutal, incompetent fascist who was worse than Mao. And the Earth is flat, right?
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However, exposure to failing banks also mattered through non-economic channels. After controlling for changes in economic fundamentals, higher DD exposure by local firms directly increased Nazi voting above and beyond its direct effect through falling incomes. While the Nazis’ message was similar across Germany, it had greater success in cities affected by DD failures. With the financial crisis, the Nazis had seemingly incontrovertible proof for their misguided theories of Jewish domination and destruction. As in many other countries, Jews were vastly overrepresented in 1930s German high finance (Mosse 1987). Nazi propaganda consistently blamed the Jewish population for Germany’s economic ills – one infamous cartoon in Der Stürmer, a Nazi weekly, showed a gigantic, obese Jewish banker hanging a starving German businessman (Figure 5). Goebbels, later Minister for Propaganda, instructed party propagandists to emphasise that the banking crisis validated the party’s anti-Semitic line.
Um. Okay.
Fakui was a feckless idiot who palled around with traitor Wang Jingwei.
Chaing was a feckless idiot who kept appointing this knob to commands and wondering why the Japanese kept rolling them
Japan had no business being in Shanghai to start with.
See. That was simple.
Again, Hitler wasn't the problem. The problem was your average German who had to eat the family dog in 1919 because the feckless idiots overthrew the Kaiser and forced a humiliating peace.
Well, Iris Chang, to start with, but you probably think she was a Commie. Everyone who doesn't agree with your greed is good philosophy is a commie. That's the problem when you belong to a cult that started as a money-making scam.
"Darn, how do all these Chinese Babies keep ending up stuck to our bayonets!!!"
**** off, Mormon ****.
The fact is, he outnumbered the Japanese 10 to 1, and STILL lost. Stalin or Hitler would have shot him for incompetence. Chiang kept giving the guy new commands.
Chiang was a knob. His allies had no respect for him. The Japanese were still gaining ground in 1944 when the Axis was being beaten back everywhere else in the world. General Stilwell called him "Peanut".
And after the war was done, the Chinese people couldn't show him the door fast enough.
While China reveres Mao, Taiwan treats Chiang like the crazy uncle they don't like to talk about.
Guess what, banks tend to fail in a depression, American ones certainly did. Not to mention Germany was trying to pay a horrific level of reparations for WWI at the time. You just keep getting worse and worse in your positions. When you first came to my notice you were denying jury verdicts based upon massive levels of physical and video evidence, now you are excusing mass murders and terrorists on a daily basis.
Right, keep doubling-down on your Nazi talking point that the Jews wrecked Germany and most of Europe after WWI. I'll keep "pretending" that your nutcase claims about Jewish bankers are nutty, and you keep peddling your Nazi propaganda. Deal.
Um, hey, guy, history is the lie everyone agrees upon. No one wants to talk about Weimar Germany, they just want to pretend Germany lost its ******* mind one day and elected Hitler. If you were a good historian (you aren't) you'd understand cause and effect.
I'm seriously starting to question your intelligence. So now you're peddling once again the lie that Fakui "palled around" with "traitor Wang Jingwei." To repeat what I've already explained to you: Fakui only sided with Jingwei for a few weeks, and did so well before the war started--after that, he remained loyal to Chiang, which is why Chiang gave him several important commands.
That he sided with the traitor at all is the problem there, guy.
That Chiang was so feckless he kept giving this guy commands and chances to screw up is besides the point. Then again, Nationalist China was a series of screwups, that's why they lost.
LOL! So other than the mentally disturbed, paranoid, and suicidal Iris Chang, you can't cite a single non-communist author who supports your rabid Chinese Communist version of the war, much less a reputable and recognized author who does so. Duly noted.
I've already discussed some of the many scholars who provide a balanced analysis of the Sino-Japanese War and who reject the propaganda line that the Japanese were always the aggressors, that the Japanese had no valid and/or legal reasons to be in China, that the Chinese were merely the victims of relentless Japanese aggression, etc., etc. Those scholars include some of the biggest names in Asia and Sino-Japanese War scholarship.
Scholars = Japanese and White people. I think the biggest problem with our whole relationship with China is that we don't understand China and we don't respect it. So why the Jews just can't stop whining about the Holocaust, the Chinese are supposed to suck it up about the slaughters inflicted on them by the Japanese Army.
Yes, we get it: Mass murderer Mao Tse-Tung was a great leader who is still revered by all Chinese, while Chiang Kai-Shek was a brutal, incompetent fascist who was worse than Mao. And the Earth is flat, right?
Guess what, banks tend to fail in a depression, American ones certainly did. Not to mention Germany was trying to pay a horrific level of reparations for WWI at the time. You just keep getting worse and worse in your positions. When you first came to my notice you were denying jury verdicts based upon massive levels of physical and video evidence, now you are excusing mass murders and terrorists on a daily basis.
You miss the point of WHY the banks failed in Germany, or the role played by certain people during the Weimar Era that led to Hitler.
I'm guessing you couldn't name a single chancellor of Germany between when the Kaiser left and Hitler took over.
(And they went through about one a year, that's how messed up Germany was.)
Yes, Germany WAS paying a horrific level of reparations at the time, because the (Jewish) revolutionaries overthrew the Kaiser and agreed to an unjust peace. That's the whole point. Weimar Germany was a shit-show. That's why they turned to the Nazis, as awful as they were.
Compared to Americans, who had it relatively good, but still turned to Trump, TWICE, because, eek, a black man was in the White House.
You miss the point of WHY the banks failed in Germany, or the role played by certain people during the Weimar Era that led to Hitler.
I'm guessing you couldn't name a single chancellor of Germany between when the Kaiser left and Hitler took over.
(And they went through about one a year, that's how messed up Germany was.)
Yes, Germany WAS paying a horrific level of reparations at the time, because the (Jewish) revolutionaries overthrew the Kaiser and agreed to an unjust peace. That's the whole point. Weimar Germany was a shit-show. That's why they turned to the Nazis, as awful as they were.
Compared to Americans, who had it relatively good, but still turned to Trump, TWICE, because, eek, a black man was in the White House.
The Germans had no choice but to accept any peace terms the Allies dictated. Its civilians were starving; it had no munitions for its Army and its navy was in a state of mutiny. Germany was in no state to resist an invasion led by a million or so motivated, fresh American troops backed up by the survivors of the French and British armies. The terms Germany would have gotten after an invasion would have been far worse, likely national extinction, returning Germany to the pack of principalities it had been forty-eight years before. Germany didn't become a unified country until 1871.
The Germans had no choice but to accept any peace terms the Allies dictated. Its civilians were starving; it had no munitions for its Army and its navy was in a state of mutiny. Germany was in no state to resist an invasion led by a million or so motivated, fresh American troops backed up by the survivors of the French and British armies. The terms Germany would have gotten after an invasion would have been far worse, likely national extinction, returning Germany to the pack of principalities it had been forty-eight years before. Germany didn't become a unified country until 1871.
The reality is everyone was on the verge of mutiny or collapse. The Germans were in the process of deploying hundreds of thousands of troops from the Eastern Front, and most of the western Democracies were sick of the war. The French Army had already mutinied in 1917. Russia had been taken out of the war by the Bolsheviks. In the US, Woody Wilson (Second worst President after Trump, IMO) was arresting Americans for protesting the war and antagonizing German Americans (the largest ethnic group in the US at that time.)
The Revolutionaries got Germany to blink first, and the Allies bent them over and fucked them in the ass. That's how they ended up with Hitler.
The reality is everyone was on the verge of mutiny or collapse. The Germans were in the process of deploying hundreds of thousands of troops from the Eastern Front, and most of the western Democracies were sick of the war. The French Army had already mutinied in 1917. Russia had been taken out of the war by the Bolsheviks. In the US, Woody Wilson (Second worst President after Trump, IMO) was arresting Americans for protesting the war and antagonizing German Americans (the largest ethnic group in the US at that time.)
The Revolutionaries got Germany to blink first, and the Allies bent them over and fucked them in the ass. That's how they ended up with Hitler.
Nice fiction. The only truth was that Russia had been knocked out of the war. Germany had already squandered the troops moved from the eastern front in the Spring Offensive that cost Germany just shy of eight hundred thousand irreplaceable troops to gain ground that was retaken three months later costing Germany still more troops. The “mutiny” you claim happened was just a refusal to make any more suicidal frontal attacks. The troops remained under arms and obeyed all other orders from their superiors.
