* Chiang had several opportunities to reach an entirely fair, if not downright generous, peace deal with the Japanese, a deal that would have spared China from Communist takeover, that would have granted the Nationalists control over all of China, and that would not have required the Nationalists to formally recognize Japan's state in Manchuria but just to agree to leave it alone.
Again. I beat you over the head with a baseball bat, take your wallet, and promise to give you your credit cards back if you give me a $*%&$.
Again, this is an idiotic, erroneous analogy that bears no resemblance to the subject. The Japanese did not even start the war, were badly outnumbered when the Nationalists attacked, waited to send reinforcements precisely because they did not want war, etc., etc., etc. I've documented these facts, but you just keep ignoring them.
In 1935, U.S. Ambassador to Moscow William C. Bullitt sent a dispatch to Secretary of State Cordell Hull:
It is … the heartiest hope of the Soviet Government that the United States will become involved in war with Japan.... To think of the Soviet Union as a possible ally of the United States in case of war with Japan is to allow the wish to be father to the thought. The Soviet Union would certainly attempt to avoid becoming an ally until Japan had been thoroughly defeated and would then merely use the opportunity to acquire Manchuria and Sovietize China.
James Perloff notes:
In the 1930s Japan moved troops into Manchuria (northern China). U.S. history books routinely call this an imperialistic invasion. While there is certainly truth in this interpretation, the books rarely mention that Japan was largely reacting, in its own version of the Monroe Doctrine, to the Soviets’ incursions into Asia — namely their seizure of Sinkiang and Outer Mongolia. Anthony Kubek, Chairman of Political Science at the University of Dallas, wrote in
How the Far East Was Lost:
It was apparent to Japanese statesmen that unless bastions of defense were built in Manchuria and Inner Mongolia, Communism would spread through all of North China and seriously threaten the security of Japan. To the Japanese, expansion in Manchuria was a national imperative.... But the Department of State seemed not to regard Japan as a bulwark against Soviet expansion in North China. As a matter of fact, not one word of protest was sent by the Department of State to the Soviet Union, despite her absorption of Sinkiang and Outer Mongolia, while at the same time Japan was censured for stationing troops in China.
That by you is a generous offer.
Again, you're an idiot. Numerous historians from all across the spectrum have acknowledged that the Japanese offer was fair and even generous. Your answer? All those historians are "fascists!" You're an ignorant caveman.
* After Japan's surrender, Truman and Marshall imposed an arms embargo against the Nationalists, which gave the Communists crucial time to rearm and titled the war against the Nationalists. Truman and Marshall cut off weapons to Chiang because he refused to halt a major offensive against the Communists, and because he rejected their idiotic, treasonous demand that he form a coalition government with the Communists and that he agree to another truce with the Communists.
Given the Communists were just as instrumental in defeating the Japanese as he was... maybe more so... that wasn't an unreasonable request.
Holy freaking cow! Where do you get this fiction? The Communists were just as instrumental in beating the Japanese as the Nationalists were???!!! Again, you're an idiot. You have no clue what you're talking about, and you won't read anything to educate yourself.
But, just for the sake of others, can you cite one book, other than Communist Chinese books, that says that the Communists played just as much of a role, if not a bigger role, as the Nationalists did in beating the Japanese? Just one. Name just one.
Wow, trying to avoid a prolonged civil war through negotiations... what a bastard Truman was. Clearly, after 70 million dead in WWII, we just didn't have enough war.
Wow!!! Just when I thought you had reached the limits of ignorance and mythology, and contradiction, you peddle this howler. Your argument here displays an unbelievable level of ignorance, not to mention that it markedly contradicts your earlier vehement rejection of negotiation to end the Pacific War.
The Nationalist-Communist civil war had only resumed in August-September 1945, and Truman and Marshall cut off arms to Chiang just as he was about to deliver a crushing blow to the Communists. When Chiang was about to strike, he had already forced the Communists to abandon the key areas of Jiangsu, Shandong, Henan, and Shanxi, and was about to take Ralgan, which was the Red Army's major center near Peiping. It was at precisely this crucial point, this golden opportunity to end the war and establish a free China, that Truman and Marshall saved the Communists by cutting off arms to the Nationalists.
Chiang Kai-shek wrote: “Stilwell [the American general assigned by FDR to "help" the Nationalists] was in a conspiracy with the Communists to overthrow the Government” — an opinion shared by General Hurley, who stated: “The record of General Stilwell in China is irrevocably coupled in history with the conspiracy to overthrow the Nationalist Government of China, and to set up in its place a Communist regime — and all this movement was part of, and cannot be separated from, the Communist cell or apparatus that existed at the time in the Government in Washington.”
Perloff:
What “cell” did Ambassador Hurley refer to? In China, he was surrounded by a State Department clique favoring a Chinese communist takeover. Dean Acheson, who as a young attorney had represented Soviet interests in America, became Assistant Secretary of State in 1941. As such, he ensured the State Department’s Far Eastern Division was dominated by communists and pro-communists, including Alger Hiss (subsequently proven a Soviet spy); John Carter Vincent, director of the Office of Far Eastern Affairs, later identified by Daily Worker editor Louis Budenz as a communist; John Stewart Service, Foreign Service Officer in China who turned State Department information over to the Chinese communists, and was arrested by the FBI in the Amerasia spy case (about which more later); Foreign Service Officer John P. Davies, who consistently lobbied for the communists; Owen Lattimore, appointed U.S. adviser to Chiang Kai-shek but identified as a communist by ex-communists Whittaker Chambers and Elizabeth Bentley; and several others. . . .
Before leaving for China, Marshall revealed he already accepted the communist propaganda line. Five-star Fleet Admiral William Leahy reported: “I was present when Marshall was going to China. He said he was going to tell Chiang that he had to get on with the Communists or without help from us. He said the same thing when he got back.” And when told Mao Tse-tung and his followers were communists, Marshall remarked: “Don’t be ridiculous. These fellows are just old-fashioned agrarian reformers.”
When Marshall first arrived in China, the Nationalists outnumbered the communists 5-1 in both troops and rifles, and were successfully driving them back. Marshall, however, imposed a total of three truces — which the communists violated, allowing them to regroup, bring up Soviet supplies, and further train their guerillas. This expanded their control from 57 Chinese counties to 310. General Claire Chennault recounted the impact of Marshall’s truces:
North of Hankow some 200,000 government troops had surrounded 70,000 Communist troops and were beginning a methodical job of extermination. The Communists appealed to Marshall on the basis of his truce proposal, and arrangements were made for fighting to cease while the Communists marched out of the trap and on to Shantung Province, where a large Communist offensive began about a year later. On the East River near Canton some 100,000 Communist troops were trapped by government forces. The truce teams effected their release and allowed the Communists to march unmolested to Bias Bay where they boarded junks and sailed to Shantung.
Marshall’s disastrous 15-month China mission ended in January 1947. Upon his return to the United States, President Truman rewarded his failures with appointment as Secretary of State. Marshall imposed a weapons embargo on the Nationalists, while the communists continued receiving a steady weapons supply from the USSR. Marshall boasted that he disarmed 39 anti-communist divisions “with a stroke of the pen.” This doomed Chinese freedom.
What kind of a "conservative" are you to defend this horrendous treason, treason that enabled the Communists to take over China and to then kill at least 30 million people to consolidate their bloody rule?
I am not usually so blunt with people in this forum, but you are the biggest jerk I have ever encountered in this forum or in any other forum.
