The most dangerous extremists among us

[sealybobo]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your source is a leftwing propaganda organ - not credible.

You don't get to do that. What was untrue in the source Twitlers little nazi

 

[bripat9643]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357

it also says that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is from "Russia." In reality he's from Kyrgyzstan, a majority Muslim state.
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

 

[sealybobo]

Of course the far right, alt right, and libertarians are far dangerous here than ISIS.

Apparently anything you or I say isn't credible. Nothing liberal progressive or factual can be used

 

[bripat9643]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357

Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?

And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

It also says that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is from "Russia." In reality he's from Kyrgyzstan, a majority Muslim state.

 

[whitehall]

What "right wing extremists"? Do lefties really believe this stuff? I mean low information lefties tried to blame some right wing plot and Rush Limbaugh for the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabby Giffords when it was just a home grown left wing nut case who probably thought he was shooting at Sara Palin.

 

[sealybobo]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

The fruit shoot in Orlando by a muslim terrorist killed 49 lone...so no its wrong as usual. Oh and yes you better be VERY afraid of extremists like me because we believe in our cause just like our founding fathers believed in theirs and will give our lives to save America.

No you pussies won't. Go back to your civil war reinactment

 

[bripat9643]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your source is a leftwing propaganda organ - not credible.

You don't get to do that. What was untrue in the source Twitlers little nazi

What was true in it? Are there any fact that can be verified? Were names and cases given for their data?

And, yes, I do get to do that.

 

[sealybobo]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

 

[bripat9643]

What "right wing extremists"? Do lefties really believe this stuff? I mean low information lefties tried to blame some right wing plot and Rush Limbaugh for the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabby Giffords when it was just a home grown left wing nut case who probably thought he was shooting at Sara Palin.

They claim Trump is a right-wing extremist. But that can't be right since they also claim he isn't a conservative.

Liberal Dictionary:
==============================
Right wing extremist - anyone who objects to any part of the leftwing agenda.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

The Second wont allow your faulty desire....tough shit.

 

[bripat9643]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

Thanks for exposing your agenda of imposing Chicago style gun control on the entire country.

 

[Goosey]

The most dangerous extremists are the people who defend the status quo.

The psychiatrists, the university lecturers, the footpads, the bogans who hate anyone different, the gangstalkers, the lesbians, transmen, correctional officers, magistrates, journalists, nurses, grade school teachers.

These are the people responsible for every coward punch and every rape by immigrant. These are the people who hound individuals out of house and home if the individual dares utter the truth. They destroy marriage they kill off good bloodlines of goodly folk.

I've never met or even seen a white supremacist extremist, not even on TV. They don't even exist.

 

[sealybobo]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your source is a leftwing propaganda organ - not credible.

You don't get to do that. What was untrue in the source Twitlers little nazi

What was true in it? Are there any fact that can be verified? Were names and cases given for their data?

And, yes, I do get to do that.

Nothing you post is credible. It's all corporate lies from the man. The rich got bill Clinton to deregulate the media in 1997. 7 companies own it all. You even admitted they wanted Clinton to win, so you admit it's all corrupt. Not one paper endorsed trump. Papers historically always endorse Republicans but didn't this time.

So there is no media you can show me that isn't controlled by a corporate shill

They are liberal on gay and religion to appear liberal but the truth is the are corporations who go along with oil companies and NAFTA.

See you fuckers like to have it both ways. And you don't realize unless you are rich you're being duped by the GOP and corporate media too. You think it's liberal and I'm telling you that's not liberal.

TTrmp is still saying the right things and ultimately aside from the B's I like what I see. But I'll still call a spade a spade. You're being a spade

 

[sealybobo]

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

Thanks for exposing your agenda of imposing Chicago style gun control on the entire country.

Regulations

 

[SassyIrishLass]

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

Thanks for exposing your agenda of imposing Chicago style gun control on the entire country.

Regulations

Go for it....you'll lose.

 

[Preacher]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

The fruit shoot in Orlando by a muslim terrorist killed 49 lone...so no its wrong as usual. Oh and yes you better be VERY afraid of extremists like me because we believe in our cause just like our founding fathers believed in theirs and will give our lives to save America.

No you pussies won't. Go back to your civil war reinactment

I like it when cultural marxist scum think they are invincible. We have proven over and over we will use violence if need be.

 

[sealybobo]

The most dangerous extremists are the people who defend the status quo.

The psychiatrists, the university lecturers, the footpads, the bogans who hate anyone different, the gangstalkers, the lesbians, transmen, correctional officers, magistrates, journalists, nurses, grade school teachers.

These are the people responsible for every coward punch and every rape by immigrant. These are the people who hound individuals out of house and home if the individual dares utter the truth. They destroy marriage they kill off good bloodlines of goodly folk.

I've never met or even seen a white supremacist extremist, not even on TV. They don't even exist.

Who do you blame for all the poor unedducated blue collar whose jobs went overseas? I blame corporate greed and a government that didn't do anything about it because those corporations own our politicians

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

Your embedded links don't match what you have quoted OR...

The link to the New America article claims 94 murders by Islamic terrorists and 50 attributed to supposedly ultra-rightwing killers...almost twice as many...

View attachment 114357
Part IV. What is the Threat to the United States Today?



And we go back one more year to 2001 and the count is 3,090 for Islamic Terrorists...50 for loony lone wolves who may or may not have a right-wing ideology...as the attacks and perpetrators are not listed in the article.

His looney link says 49 by radical muslims...50 at Orlando, 14 at Ft Hood, another 14 at San Bernardino....

Can any rightys help me make sense of their logic? They say we are free to be anything we want including Muslim. Then we give anyone the right to buy as many guns as we want and we shouldn't regulate gun purchases even though they know Isis is sleeper celling it here in America.

Us liberals wish gun purchases were regulated. Knowing Isis is here plotting.

Hows regulating guns in Chicago working out?

Same old tired and worn out talking points.

If you don't regulate guns in Texas it's not hard to get them to Chicago.

Do you want to build a wall around Chicago?

Lord YES.

 

[Muhammed]

Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

They and untold thousands like them are the extremists who hide among us, the right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead. These Americans thrive on hate and conspiracy theories, many fed to them by politicians and commentators who blithely blather about government concentration camps and impending martial law and plans to seize guns and other dystopian gibberish, apparently unaware there are people listening who don’t know it’s all lies. These extremists turn to violence—against minorities, non-Christians, abortion providers, government officials—in what they believe is a fight to save America. And that potential for violence is escalating every day.

reported this past June, based on surveys of 382 law enforcement groups.

The problem is getting worse, although few outside of law enforcement know it. Multiple confidential sources notified the FBI last year that militia members have been conducting surveillance on Muslim schools, community centers and mosques in nine states for what one informant described as “operational purposes.” Informants also notified federal law enforcement that Mississippi militia extremists discussed kidnapping and beheading a Muslim, then posting a video of the decapitation on the Internet. The FBI also learned that right-wing extremists have created bogus law enforcement and diplomatic identifications, not because these radicals want to pretend to be police and ambassadors, but because they believe they hold those positions in a government they have created within the United States.

The unusual—and often daffy—world view of some right-wing extremists was on daily display during the January armed takeover of federal facilities at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. Expressing dismay that two ranchers convicted of arson were ordered to serve out the remainder of their mandatory minimum prison sentences, members of various militia groups occupied a building at the wildlife refuge, declaring their willingness to fight the government and, if necessary, die for their cause. They proclaimed that the federal government was tyrannical, that the Constitution is under siege.

Barring another 9-11 type attack, you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing extremist than an Islamic extremist. That is the current state of affairs in the US.

So what made you choose 2002?

Isn't that called "cherry-picking" data in order to fit your preconceived conclusion?

No wonder you can't comprehend why using a trick to "hide the decline" is not sound science.