The Medicare cuts start 4/1/2025

[NetJedi]

There are telehealth now.

Under the Trump Administration they will end.

That's a cut.

Word smith all you want, it's a cut and the section of the population this is targeted to cut benefits from is mostly rural communities. The beauty of it is those are core Trump supporters he's boinking.

LOL.

WW

ROFLMAO! telling the truth is "word smithing", what don't you understand about TEMPORARY?

Is it any wonder why rational people make fun of you?

 

[dudmuck]

Democrats FEAR MONGER because the idiots have no ideas or solutions. $36 TRILLION in debt and climbing yet Democrats squeal like stuck pigs over any cut.

this order lets the drug price gouging resume.

 

[initforme]

Democrats FEAR MONGER because the idiots have no ideas or solutions. $36 TRILLION in debt and climbing yet Democrats squeal like stuck pigs over any cut.

Get rid of thr fraud but cuts beyond that are not necessary. Elderly and poor people have zero bad effect on the budget.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yes, definitely. It prevents crowded waiting rooms, and it saves patients a lot of travel time just to get a presciption refilled.

Also, there are a lot of tests which can be done at home now. You'd be surprised at the various test kits and equipment which can be mailed to a patient and performed at home.

I joined the Million Veteran Program and they mailed me a device which does a blood draw. I was amazed. All I had to do was mail it back and they could check my blood for all kinds of disorders.

There are blood sugar kits you can buy over the counter and provide the results to your doctor who can then prescribe medication if you need to get your blood sugar down.

What's more, a doctor can order a blood draw via telehealth, then you travel to the closest clinic to have it done. So instead of a trip to the doctor, and then a trip to the clinic (which is often at a different location), you only have to make one trip.

Then when the results come in, the doctor can talk to you via telehealth and mail the necessary medications.

No more waiting forever in a waiting room or dealing with traffic. No more risk of being around people with infectious diseases in the waiting room.

I could go on and on.



Anyone who thinks our deficit is because of telehealth is an idiot.

The problem you have here is that Rump had nothing to do with this.

 

[JustAGuy1]

The OP is 100% correct. This is the first step in cutting Medicare and doing away with full Medicare and putting all of us in advantage plans. After that, Social Security is on the chopping block. Can anyone say privatization. The MAGA sheep are just too enamored of Trump to give a damn about the truth. That is what sheep do.

Rump had nothing to do with it child.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yep.

Trump got his votes, King Donald doesn’t need rural people anymore. He can go back to servicing billionaires.

WW

Well yeah, but "King" Donald had nothing to do with it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Well yeah, but "King" Donald had nothing to do with it.

Not "had", "will".

The cuts go into effect April 1st (future tense).

He's letting the cuts go into effect during his administration. So since Trump is President they are his cuts.

WW

 

[JustAGuy1]

Not "had", "will".

The cuts go into effect April 1st (future tense).

He's letting the cuts go into effect during his administration. So since Trump is President they are his cuts.

WW

LOL, you really are an idiot. The AMA gave permission to go ahead with it in Dec. This happened on Joe's watch.

 

[WorldWatcher]

LOL, you really are an idiot. The AMA gave permission to go ahead with it in Dec. This happened on Joe's watch.

Nope, April 1 2025 which is when the cut goes into effect is on Trump's watch.

WW

 

[NetJedi]

Get rid of thr fraud but cuts beyond that are not necessary. Elderly and poor people have zero bad effect on the budget.

Won't be enough; Medicare spending is projected to rise from 10% of total Federal Spending in 2021 to 18% of total Federal Spending by 2032 (3.1% of GDP to 3.9% of GDP), that is NOT sustainable, especially given the explosion of federal debt service costs.

Either costs need to be brought down, premiums will need to increase, benefits will need to be cut or some combination of all 3.

Option B is we all get to experience the effects of a sovereign debt crisis up close and personal.

 

[protectionist]

I am starting to fear our social security may be messed with.

I am thinking just the opposite. Removing fraud from Social Security frees up money to be redirected to proper recipients.

 

[protectionist]

Won't be enough; Medicare spending is projected to rise from 10% of total Federal Spending in 2021 to 18% of total Federal Spending by 2032 (3.1% of GDP to 3.9% of GDP), that is NOT sustainable, especially given the explosion of federal debt service costs.

Either costs need to be brought down, premiums will need to increase, benefits will need to be cut or some combination of all 3.

Option B is we all get to experience the effects of a sovereign debt crisis up close and personal.

From 10 to 18 is almost a doubling increase. I would have to see some very strong evidence to be convinced of that claim, and I don't care how popular it may be.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I am thinking just the opposite. Removing fraud from Social Security frees up money to be redirected to proper recipients.

While you can never say there is 0% fraud, when payment accuracy is around 99.7%, that 0.3% fraud is a drop in the bucket.

Don't get me wrong 48 Billion is a lot of money. The SSA pays out $133 Billion a month, so that would be about $100 Billion in non-incorrect payments.

WW

 

[protectionist]

Nope, April 1 2025 which is when the cut goes into effect is on Trump's watch.

WW

You get an F for logic. When a change was created, is the crux of it. Not when it takes effect.

Good post, JustAGuy.

 

[protectionist]

While you can never say there is 0% fraud, when payment accuracy is around 99.7%, that 0.3% fraud is a drop in the bucket.

WW

And who told you accuracy is 99.7% ?
Joy Reid ?

 

[WorldWatcher]

And who told you accuracy is 99.7% ?
Joy Reid ?

No, Kahtleen Romig, Director of Social Security. Previously on the Social Security Advisor Board and worked at the Congressional Research Office.

WW

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/setting-the-record-straight-on-social-security

 

[CowboyTed]

YOu guys ready?

First to go is telehealth visits.

I'm not sure how that's gonna save money. I mean sure, they can cut the program but those people still need care, so they will need facilities to handle more in person visits. I can't see that being cheaper than telehealth visits.

Anyway, you can be sure this is just the opening salvo.

MSN

I persume this will hit rural communities far worse...

Anyway I don't see that passing...

A lot of Congress GOP would loose their jobs if that happened...

 

[Orangecat]

YOu guys ready?

First to go is telehealth visits.

I'm not sure how that's gonna save money. I mean sure, they can cut the program but those people still need care, so they will need facilities to handle more in person visits. I can't see that being cheaper than telehealth visits.

Anyway, you can be sure this is just the opening salvo.

MSN

Lulz:

YOu guys are all soooooooooooo triggered!

 

[CowboyTed]

Honestly I think Telehealth should remain. My grandfather had dementia, heart issues and diabetes. It was nearly impossible to take him to a physician. Telehealth coupled with his nurse practitioner saved him until his problems forced us to make the decision for a facility.

I'll add he was in a rural area. Telehealth certainly helped

Economically, Telehealth is use to save costs.

It is also weighted more towards rural areas where there is more support for GOP..

This is not the smartest move politically....

BTW, this cut to Medicaid is to pay for a tax cut... Do we really think Americans are going to think this is a good deal?

 

[NetJedi]

From 10 to 18 is almost a doubling increase. I would have to see some very strong evidence to be convinced of that claim, and I don't care how popular it may be.

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"Medicare spending (net of income from premiums and other offsetting receipts) is projected to rise from 10% of total federal spending in 2021 to 18% in 2032, and from 3.1% to 3.9% of GDP over these years, due to growing Medicare enrollment, increased use of services and intensity of care, and rising health care costs."