The Medicaid Cuts in "The Big Beautiful Bill": An Honest Discussion

[TemplarKormac]

The bill itself is 940 pages long, and the text of which was released not just a few days ago. Through my observations, I have found that not many on this board are keen on sitting down to read something 940 pages long.

Before the release, skeptics had been speculating that "$700 billion" would be cut from Medicaid, portraying it as an arbitrary, singular cut to the program. However, the cuts of $700 billion are spaced out over 10 years, through stricter work and eligibility requirements. The Senate version proposes deeper cuts. To say there are no cuts would be dishonest, though it should be noted that illegal immigrants do get something called "emergency Medicaid."

So, I'll ask you, if you think one way or another, cite provisions (pro or con) concerning the cuts. Surely you're able to do that, right? I'll leave you to it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Given that I am a Medicaid recipient, I will largely recuse myself from this discussion. But I may reply from time to time.

Bump.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I have no problem with work requirements that are sensible.

I don't know what stricter eligibility means? Do you?

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don't know what stricter eligibility means? Do you?

Precisely what it says, John, don't invite confusion with opaque statements like that.

 

[leftwinger]

Yes I want able bodied young black males in Memphis to work. I don’t want to pay 300lb white Stain to pound boards and not work. No I dont want to pay new hearts and livers to 50 yr. old Mexican got aways and chain migrate their 70; yr old aunt. Ok no lung transplants for crack smokers or Fentynal users? Down the list we go…..first, Stop the medical fraud.

It’s easy. Just use common sense. Did they?

Maybe cut-paste, highlight big important easy to understand parts? If they exist? A page at a time, or section?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Bump.

 

[Edgetho]

If the cuts in this bill affect you, tell us how. Most of us know very little about what's in the bill.

I see no reason to recuse yourself from this thread any more than a Disabled Veteran should recuse himself from a thread about the VA.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Medicaid like any program has abusers, weed out the abusers.

I have a difficult time believing a healthy individual outside of age needs the government to take care of medical needs, maybe for period of time but not endless

And I'll add, illegals are not entitled to it

 

[TemplarKormac]

If the cuts in this bill affect you, tell us how. Most of us know very little about what's in the bill.

As of now, they don't. They haven't been passed. If they are passed, I don't see them affecting me anyway.

 

[kyzr]

Medicaid like any program has abusers, weed out the abusers.
I have a difficult time believing a healthy individual outside of age needs the government to take care of medical needs, maybe for period of time but not endless

As an OK senator explained it, there are 35m people living below the poverty line, so why are there 70m on Medicaid?

There are 35m that need to be kicked off.

 

[Robert W]

Given that I am a Medicaid recipient, I will largely recuse myself from this discussion. But I may reply from time to time.

Bump.

I am too. Any cuts remove illegal aliens and those who work at particular jobs.

 

[Edgetho]

Medicaid like any program has abusers, weed out the abusers.

I have a difficult time believing a healthy individual outside of age needs the government to take care of medical needs, maybe for period of time but not endless

And I'll add, illegals are not entitled to it

I seldom disagree with you but this time, you're just misguided.

Personally, I am happy for you that you may not know many, if any, people that need Medicaid.

There's a lot more of it than you think. Nursing Homes for one. People who can't afford extremely expensive procedures or medications, people down on their luck, people that lost Husbands or Wives and already spent all their money on trying to save them.......

It's a long list

 

[TemplarKormac]

I see no reason to recuse yourself from this thread any more than a Disabled Veteran should recuse himself from a thread about the VA.

Well, I take the approach a judge should if they have an interest in the case.

I receive Medicaid, and I cannot guarantee I will not side for or against these cuts. However, that does not mean others will or won't be affected by them.

 

[Edgetho]

Well, I take the approach a judge should if they have an interest in the case.

I receive Medicaid, and I cannot guarantee I will not side for or against these cuts. However, that does not mean others will or won't be affected by them.

You're not a Judge. All we do in here is exchange ideas and information.

And the side you take is up to you. I couldn't care less....... No offense

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I seldom disagree with you but this time, you're just misguided.

Personally, I am happy for you that you may not know many, if any, people that need Medicaid.

There's a lot more of it than you think. Nursing Homes for one. People who can't afford extremely expensive procedures or medications, people down on their luck, people that lost Husbands or Wives and already spent all their money on trying to save them.......

It's a long list

You obviously didn't read or understand my comment.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're not a Judge. All we do in here is exchange ideas and information.

And the side you take is up to you. I couldn't care less....... No offense

So be it. I take this approach because I feel it is unfair to influence a debate about something I positively benefit from.

However, you cared enough to speak up, my friend. That is appreciated!

 

[Edgetho]

You obviously didn't read or understand my comment.

Please accept my most sincere and heartfelt 'oopsie'

I shall go forth and sin no more.

For a few minutes anyway

 

[Anathema]

The only Medicaid change I want is the total abolishment of the program, permanently.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It is a clear statement, podjo. What does it mrean? Be exact.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The bill itself is 940 pages long, and the text of which was released not just a few days ago. Through my observations, I have found that not many on this board are keen on sitting down to read something 940 pages long.

Before the release, skeptics had been speculating that "$700 billion" would be cut from Medicaid, portraying it as an arbitrary, singular cut to the program. However, the cuts of $700 billion are spaced out over 10 years, through stricter work and eligibility requirements. The Senate version proposes deeper cuts. To say there are no cuts would be dishonest, though it should be noted that illegal immigrants do get something called "emergency Medicaid."

So, I'll ask you, if you think one way or another, cite provisions (pro or con) concerning the cuts. Surely you're able to do that, right? I'll leave you to it.

When Trump cuts Medicaid for your mentally ill ass, you will not be a happy camper.

That's an understatement.