The Math Proves Which Side To Support

What country or countries, specifically, were you thinking?
Jordan, since it's 80% Palestinian anyway and was the Arab state created by the partition.

But really, any country that current keeps them in "refugee camps".
 
How do you vet them? I don't understand how that works. How is that something that anyone could even do? Where do you start? And what's to prevent them from taqqiya and telling you what you want to hear while telling each other something completely different?
Well, I'm not an expert on vetting people. But we have procedures for security clearances, which is essentially what we are asking for here. I'd imagine it would look something like that.
  • multiple personal interviews
  • family and colleague interviews
  • social media review
  • religious doctrine review
  • psychological testing
 
Jordan, since it's 80% Palestinian anyway and was the Arab state created by the partition.

But really, any country that current keeps them in "refugee camps".
Wouldn't you be concerned that those displaced in this way would radicalize those in Jordan and Lebanon?
 
In both 1967 and 2023
No one lied in 1967 or 2023, and it seems like you read what I had to say, then judged it as accurate enough to shift the debate away from the knowledge and critical thinking.

Would you admit that in the fog of war, it is entirely reasonable to assume that a vessel not belonging to you poses a threat in an active warzone?

The USS Liberty wasn't supposed to be there, Israel wasn't expecting that.

1967 is not like 2026 where you have instantaneous communication, GPS locations, and digital encrypted messages that machines verify and validate. It was a different time then, and there was no sort of electronic system that could verify the vessels in a war zone.
 
Israel LIED about being attacked from Gaza
So you don't believe 10/7 happened even though Hamas recorded 10,000 hours of footage themselves?

How did the Israeli hostages end up in Gaza, then?

I don't understand what you think you have to gain by denying one of the most documented massacres in history.
 
Israel had a planned invasion ready to go
Of course they did. It's called contingency. Every country has invasion plans for its neighbors.

They even made a satire about it with John Candy. Are you old enough to remember that movie?


Israel wanted to exterminate and annex Gaza
Then why didn't they do that?

Why are there virtually the same number of Gazans there today as there were on 10/7?

And why did Israel withdraw to the yellow line and accept the terms of the ceasefire?

And why hasn't Hamas disarmed per the ceasefire they agreed to and demanded back in October?


Fascists hate hoax...
Let me ask you a question. Do you believe that the Sandy Hook gun massacre happened in Newtown?
 
Wouldn't you be concerned that those displaced in this way would radicalize those in Jordan and Lebanon?
I don't know, were the displaced Muslims from India radicalized when they got to Pakistan?

Were the displaced Hindus radicalized when they got to India?

Were the displaced Jews from across MENA radicalized when they got to Israel?

The answer to all three is "no". So how come it's not expected of Arabs to do what Israel, India, and Pakistan all did??
 
Hamas recorded 10,000 hours of footage



BS

Mossad's "hostage movie for self proclaimed sub humans addicted to Fox Faux News"

starring

"Dry Cleaned Hamas"

never mind there aren't any open dry cleaners in Gaza


directed by Simon Elliot








so WHEN are YOU going to fly a motorized paraglider for us???


 
No. Evacuate the civilians, then destroy the infrastructure and military objectives, then prevent rebuilding of military infrastructure.
That “infrastructure” is people’s homes!!

But Bibi and the Zionists need their Lebensraum as much as that German guy did
 
This will overturn everything you think you know about Israeli society and the genocide you ignorantly deny. I suspect every fact he cites will be enlightening to you.

Try getting informed for once.

Norman Finkelstein on the Insane Racism of Israeli Society and the Plan to Erase Gaza



Oh lookie. The lies begin in the first couple minutes.

NO, the ICJ did not opine that Israel "is plausibly committing a genocide". The ICJ President at the time, Joan Donoghue held a press conference to explicitly correct this misstatement. But Dr. Po-Ta-To Chip, like you, tends to spread misinformation.
 
Well, I'm not an expert on vetting people. But we have procedures for security clearances, which is essentially what we are asking for here. I'd imagine it would look something like that.
  • multiple personal interviews
  • family and colleague interviews
  • social media review
  • religious doctrine review
  • psychological testing
I mean, if you get the right people to conduct all this stuff, maybe it's possible. But I don't think it's likely because there has to be an agreed-upon set of standards, and I just don't know how you get there.

I'd like to believe that there are Gazans who are willing to live in peace, the problem is that I don't see them. All I see are what Hamas wants to show us. Are there dissenters? I don't know. Probably not because dissention means isolation or death.

Look at it like how you'd look at a cult, the effort required to deprogram someone from a cult is very high, and the success rate is very low. And it's hard for me to accept that there are Palestinians who can meet the standards given all their actions the last 20 years.

I don't know about you, but 10/7 made me feel stupid and naive. I had supported a 2SS for 20 years and 10/7 was like a big middle finger to the 2SS. That was about as far from a 2SS as you can get. I do not support a 2SS solution anymore because I don't think it's possible for Palestinians to change.
 
BS Mossad's "hostage movie for self proclaimed sub humans addicted to Fox Faux News"
No, there is actual raw footage. You just have to look for it. But it is definitely there. We know because they livestreamed it, and shared it with their families and friends while it was happening.

To not believe 10/7 happened is to not believe any massacre happened. I asked about Sandy Hook because I wanted to know if that was fake too? Because unlike 10/7, there is no video of the shooting, no one ever saw the bodies, no witnesses came forward for a decade, and the building it happened in doesn't even exist anymore.

So if you believe Sandy Hook happened without any actual evidence, then you must accept that 10/7 happened because of the preponderance of evidence.
 
15th post
because the USS Liberty did not sink in 10 minutes, because the rank and file IDF deliberately missed.
Follow the thread, the response was to your allegation that they wanted to annex and exterminate Gaza.

If you're not going to conduct yourself in good faith, then this conversation is over.

You have the privilege right now to respond in good faith to my posts, and that privilege can be revoked.
 
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Oh, so then Hamas is using civilian infrastructure for military purposes. And that is a war crime.

No one believes you any more

Every building in Gaza and Lebanon is a Bibi funded Hamas launching pad because Zionists require Lebensraum
 
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