martybegan
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I do see a lot of legal immigrants take advantage of social programs. I'm sure illegal immigrants do too especially in blue states. But make no mistake, the thing drawing them to this country are illegal employers large and small.Yes, fine them so heavily no other company would dare hire illegals.Who cares. Look at all this defense you put up when we discuss taxing billionaires more. I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona. We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this. And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018? Totally unnecessary. It's as if you want the government to go bankrupt. How will that help you anarchists?Don't you know?He pays significantly less today than he did in 2015.
What was his income in 2015? What is his income today?
You made a claim......you don't know?
Who cares.
You were the one whining about his lower payment today, apparently you care.
I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona.
Who cares? They own stocks, stocks have mostly gone up.
We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this.
Yes, your constant push for reducing the size and scope of government was refreshing.
And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018?
Me too.
Stocks have gone up for one reason. Billions interjected
They need to go after the illegal employers. The people hiring the illegal workers. Going after illegal workers won't work if companies aren't afraid to hire them they'll just keep on coming wall or no wall.Business entities that contribute to US unemployment should be punished.YesI like Bernie Sanders plan...And Billionaires should be taxed more. I don't even think they care. Only you right wing cons want to protect/defend their fortunes. Even when that means eventually they'll have to raise your taxes and cut your social security/Medicare.Apparently, Elon is a better salesman than you.Elon has tripled his net worth since Corona. TRIPLED. Wake up middle class AmericHere’s how much these billionaires would pay under Sen. Bernie Sanders’ proposed “Make Billionaires Pay Act”:
-Jeff Bezos $42.8B
-Elon Musk $27.5B
-Mark Zuckerberg $22.8B
Stop saying “we can’t afford” Homes for All, Green New Deal or Medicare for All.
If we didn't spend trillions on endless wars and tax breaks for millionaires, we could afford to house our homeless, care for our seniors, and save our planet.
We suffer from greed, not scarcityThe Pandemic Has Benefited One Group Of People: Billionaires
Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.www.huffpost.com
Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.
So you are crying about taxing Elon Musk 27 billion? Are you retarded?
I'm a fan of Tesla but has Musk made a profit on anything yet?
How Rich is Too Rich For Democracy? | Common Dreams
At what point does great wealth held in a few hands actually harm democracy, threatening to turn a democratic republic into an oligarchy? It's a debate we haven't had freely and openly in this nation for nearly a century, and last week, by voting to end the Estate Tax, House Republicans tried to...www.commondreams.org
You're fighting us liberals meanwhile the billionaires are WINNING.
Citizens United is another bad move towards the rich controlling our government with their influence. No one can defend this can they?
Tax business at 75% if they off-shore and/or use Business Visas.
Do you agree?
No. Typical lefty, taxation as punishment, not taxation as a funding source.
What about a government that contributes to unemployment by continuing to allow low skilled labor to flood the market?
go after the supply and the demand. but going after the employers to a degree of putting them out of business stops them from employing anyone, so it makes more sense to go after the supply
How's that working?
Don't know, we really haven't tried it full blast.
And why is that?
Lawsuits to stop ICE from doing it's job. Lack of will from certain lifelong anti-trump people in Justice. Localities that don't enforce any immigration laws or federal requests.
You mean places like Iowa?
Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican
"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.www.desmoinesregister.com
Let's look at this.
This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system, and was an employee in good standing. On Monday, the authorities visited our farm and talked to our employees. We have cooperated fully with their investigation.
Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican
UPDATE: The employers of the suspect in an Iowa college student’s death say he presented false identification when he came to work for them. Correcting information given Tuesday, manager Dane Lang said Yarrabee Farms did not use the government’s E-Verify system to check the immigration status of Cristhian Bahena Rivera, who presented an out-of-state ID card and Social Security number when he applied for work four years ago.
Employers: Slaying suspect lied about ID
This business knew he was here illegally and initially lied about it. Without the job he has no reason to come here.
I can't find anything about an investigation of this business about their lies and how many other illegals they are employing.
So close down the business? Put the owner in jail?
Really great idea SJW soi boi and your soi boi butt buddy Sealy.
Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"
Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.www.thomhartmann.com
This is why we're never going to solve the illegal employer problem we have and Republicans don't want to because a lot of corporations that hire illegals are run by Republicans who donate to Republican politicians.
If you read the op ed I posted Thom puts blame on both parties. I know you guys never accept full responsibility for anything but maybe you'll admit both parties are to blame? Nah. We know you won't ever do that. And you can't ever get yourselves to blame or punish corporations no matter what they do.
Again, the goal is to control immigration, not ruin our employers.
The employers enticing illegals to come.
Their shithole existences in their own countries entice them to come.
That and they know in Cali the welfare state will take care of them, in other Blue states as well.
Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican
"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.www.desmoinesregister.com
In Iowa
They are driven from their own countries by the conditions there, and drawn here because they hope lefties gain power and they are given amnesty to stay here.