CDZ The Little Ice Age Has Begun - What Should We Do?

[Sun Devil 92]

What is the definition of an ice age ?

 

[usmbguest5318]

Buy warm clothing.

 

[Gracie]

Nothing much we can do when china has the filthiest air and cares not one iota and India is nothing but one big cess pit.

 

[boedicca]

Winter is comin'. If you don't have a fur coat, it's time to snap up a good and cheap used on eBay before prices go through the roof!

Global temperatures have plummeted this year at a record rate. Over the last ten months, temperatures have dropped more than three quarters of a degree, breaking the previous global cooling record set in 1999....

Earth Cooling At The Fastest Rate On Record | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

 

[Rambunctious]

The climate is changing I would swear it was 80 degrees just 3 months ago...

 

[westwall]

The Earth entered a little Ice Age phase beginning in 2014-2015, which will last into the 22nd century.

And yet 2014 and 2015 were the 2 warmest years in the history of direct instrument measurement!!!

Only they weren't. They took raw data which showed cooling and sent them through a homologation program and when they came out the other side surprise, surprise, surprise, they were all warmer. That's called fraud.

 

[mamooth]

Only they weren't. They took raw data which showed cooling and sent them through a homologation program and when they came out the other side surprise, surprise, surprise, they were all warmer. That's called fraud.

That's called "you proudly lying for the glory of your cult". You're stating the exact opposite of reality.

Back in the real world, the adjustments, which have made the past look warmer, have made the warming look smaller. That's not deniable by any honest person. That simple fact makes the primary denier cult conspiracy theory look profoundly stupid, so that's why most deniers choose to lie outright about it.

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[westwall]

Only they weren't. They took raw data which showed cooling and sent them through a homologation program and when they came out the other side surprise, surprise, surprise, they were all warmer. That's called fraud.

That's called "you proudly lying for the glory of your cult". You're stating the exact opposite of reality.

Back in the real world, the adjustments, which have made the past look warmer, have made the warming look smaller. That's not deniable by any honest person. That simple fact makes the primary denier cult conspiracy theory look profoundly stupid, so that's why most deniers choose to lie outright about it.

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You lie like the best of them but the problem is you're bad at it. The adjustments cool the past, and warm the present. No amount of fantasy that you try and foist off on the rest of us will alter those facts.

 

[mamooth]

Deniers have been predicting this imminent ice-age non-stop for the past 40 years (deniers like to pretend it wasn't themselves making the cooling predictions). That ice age never arrives. In contrast, during that same time frame, the real scientists were predicting warming. They were proven to be correct. That's why climate science has such credibility. It earned that credibility through 40 years of getting everything right. And that's why denialism has zero credibility, because it's gotten everything wrong for 40 years. If deniers want credibility, they need to make predictions and see them come true.

So, I see some deniers here are stating positively that things will start cooling immediately. That's good. At least they're mustering up the courage to take a stand.

However, we know how this turns out. It keeps warming strongly. In a couple years, we ask the deniers why the cooling didn't happen, and they yell "Next year! You wait and see!". They've been moving those goalposts for 40 years, and aren't about to stop now.

 

[westwall]

Deniers have been predicting this imminent ice-age non-stop for the past 40 years (deniers like to pretend it wasn't themselves making the cooling predictions). That ice age never arrives. In contrast, during that same time frame, the real scientists were predicting warming. They were proven to be correct. That's why climate science has such credibility. It earned that credibility through 40 years of getting everything right. And that's why denialism has zero credibility, because it's gotten everything wrong for 40 years. If deniers want credibility, they need to make predictions and see them come true.

So, I see some deniers here are stating positively that things will start cooling immediately. That's good. At least they're mustering up the courage to take a stand.

However, we know how this turns out. It keeps warming strongly. In a couple years, we ask the deniers why the cooling didn't happen, and they yell "Next year! You wait and see!". They've been moving those goalposts for 40 years, and aren't about to stop now.

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's, then they said no it's warming, then when the pause hit they changed to climate change (because lets face it, the climate is ALWAYS changing), and when that didn't pan out so good they changed it again to "global climate disruption" because they figured that they could blame any old storm on it, and they have, the problem is the storm frequency has DROPPED....oooooops.

So no, the only people who are provably hysterical are your hero's who have a fantastically bad prediction rate.

But thanks for playin!

 

[mamooth]

You lie like the best of them but the problem is you're bad at it. The adjustments cool the past, and warm the present. No amount of fantasy that you try and foist off on the rest of us will alter those facts.

I note you posted no data to back up your claim.

In contrast, I backed up my claim with hard data.

I can do that because all the data says you're making stuff up, and I'm telling the truth.

Here, let me do some more of the thing that you pseudoscience cultists hate the most, which is use actual data. This comes from Karl 2015. Not how the the corrections make the past look warmer, which makes the warming look smaller.

If you'd like, scientists could use nothing but raw data, which would make the warming look bigger. Is that what you want?

 

[mamooth]

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's,

No, almost all of the 1970s cooling papers come from Dr. Reid Bryson, who was one of the most hardcore deniers until he died. The CIA paper you like to show was entirely based on Bryson's bad work, as was the media hype. Meanwhile, most everyone else in the science was predicting warming. The good scientists have been consistently right in predicting warming for 40 years now, and the deniers have been consistently wrong by predicting cooling all that time.

 

[edthecynic]

The Earth entered a little Ice Age phase beginning in 2014-2015, which will last into the 22nd century.

And yet 2014 and 2015 were the 2 warmest years in the history of direct instrument measurement!!!

Only they weren't. They took raw data which showed cooling and sent them through a homologation program and when they came out the other side surprise, surprise, surprise, they were all warmer. That's called fraud.

LIAR!

 

[edthecynic]

Only they weren't. They took raw data which showed cooling and sent them through a homologation program and when they came out the other side surprise, surprise, surprise, they were all warmer. That's called fraud.

That's called "you proudly lying for the glory of your cult". You're stating the exact opposite of reality.

Back in the real world, the adjustments, which have made the past look warmer, have made the warming look smaller. That's not deniable by any honest person. That simple fact makes the primary denier cult conspiracy theory look profoundly stupid, so that's why most deniers choose to lie outright about it.

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You lie like the best of them but the problem is you're bad at it. The adjustments cool the past, and warm the present. No amount of fantasy that you try and foist off on the rest of us will alter those facts.

LIAR!

 

[edthecynic]

Deniers have been predicting this imminent ice-age non-stop for the past 40 years (deniers like to pretend it wasn't themselves making the cooling predictions). That ice age never arrives. In contrast, during that same time frame, the real scientists were predicting warming. They were proven to be correct. That's why climate science has such credibility. It earned that credibility through 40 years of getting everything right. And that's why denialism has zero credibility, because it's gotten everything wrong for 40 years. If deniers want credibility, they need to make predictions and see them come true.

So, I see some deniers here are stating positively that things will start cooling immediately. That's good. At least they're mustering up the courage to take a stand.

However, we know how this turns out. It keeps warming strongly. In a couple years, we ask the deniers why the cooling didn't happen, and they yell "Next year! You wait and see!". They've been moving those goalposts for 40 years, and aren't about to stop now.

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's, then they said no it's warming, then when the pause hit they changed to climate change (because lets face it, the climate is ALWAYS changing), and when that didn't pan out so good they changed it again to "global climate disruption" because they figured that they could blame any old storm on it, and they have, the problem is the storm frequency has DROPPED....oooooops.

So no, the only people who are provably hysterical are your hero's who have a fantastically bad prediction rate.

But thanks for playin!

LIAR!

 

[Yarddog]

The Earth entered a little Ice Age phase beginning in 2014-2015, which will last into the 22nd century.

And yet 2014 and 2015 were the 2 warmest years in the history of direct instrument measurement!!!

And where were those instruments....? That is the rub....

Tuscon Arizona

 

[westwall]

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's,

No, almost all of the 1970s cooling papers come from Dr. Reid Bryson, who was one of the most hardcore deniers until he died. The CIA paper you like to show was entirely based on Bryson's bad work, as was the media hype. Meanwhile, most everyone else in the science was predicting warming. The good scientists have been consistently right in predicting warming for 40 years now, and the deniers have been consistently wrong by predicting cooling all that time.

Oh? you forgot Paul Ehrlich already? I can see why you would....

 

[westwall]

Deniers have been predicting this imminent ice-age non-stop for the past 40 years (deniers like to pretend it wasn't themselves making the cooling predictions). That ice age never arrives. In contrast, during that same time frame, the real scientists were predicting warming. They were proven to be correct. That's why climate science has such credibility. It earned that credibility through 40 years of getting everything right. And that's why denialism has zero credibility, because it's gotten everything wrong for 40 years. If deniers want credibility, they need to make predictions and see them come true.

So, I see some deniers here are stating positively that things will start cooling immediately. That's good. At least they're mustering up the courage to take a stand.

However, we know how this turns out. It keeps warming strongly. In a couple years, we ask the deniers why the cooling didn't happen, and they yell "Next year! You wait and see!". They've been moving those goalposts for 40 years, and aren't about to stop now.

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's, then they said no it's warming, then when the pause hit they changed to climate change (because lets face it, the climate is ALWAYS changing), and when that didn't pan out so good they changed it again to "global climate disruption" because they figured that they could blame any old storm on it, and they have, the problem is the storm frequency has DROPPED....oooooops.

So no, the only people who are provably hysterical are your hero's who have a fantastically bad prediction rate.

But thanks for playin!

LIAR!

Go home until you come up with something more substantial than a juvenile invective.

 

[westwall]

You lie like the best of them but the problem is you're bad at it. The adjustments cool the past, and warm the present. No amount of fantasy that you try and foist off on the rest of us will alter those facts.

I note you posted no data to back up your claim.

In contrast, I backed up my claim with hard data.

I can do that because all the data says you're making stuff up, and I'm telling the truth.

Here, let me do some more of the thing that you pseudoscience cultists hate the most, which is use actual data. This comes from Karl 2015. Not how the the corrections make the past look warmer, which makes the warming look smaller.

If you'd like, scientists could use nothing but raw data, which would make the warming look bigger. Is that what you want?

Yes, you provide "hard data" that is not. It is "corrections". Corrections aren't data. The highlighted section is the lie.

"First, several studies have examined the differences between buoy- and ship-based data, noting that the ship data are systematically warmer than the buoy data (15–17). This is particularly important because much of the sea surface is now sampled by both observing systems, and surface-drifting and moored buoys have increased the overall global coverage by up to 15% (supplementary materials). These changes have resulted in a time-dependent bias in the global SST record, and various corrections have been developed to account for the bias (18). Recently, a new correction (13) was developed and applied in the Extended Reconstructed Sea Surface Temperature (ERSST) data set version 4, which we used in our analysis. In essence, the bias correction involved calculating the average difference between collocated buoy and ship SSTs. The average difference globally was −0.12°C, a correction that is applied to the buoy SSTs at every grid cell in ERSST version 4. [IPCC (1) used a global analysis from the UK Met Office that found the same average ship-buoy difference globally, although the corrections applied in that analysis were equal to differences observed within each ocean basin (18).] More generally, buoy data have been proven to be more accurate and reliable than ship data, with better-known instrument characteristics and automated sampling (16). Therefore, ERSST version 4 also considers this smaller buoy uncertainty in the reconstruction (13).

 

[edthecynic]

Deniers have been predicting this imminent ice-age non-stop for the past 40 years (deniers like to pretend it wasn't themselves making the cooling predictions). That ice age never arrives. In contrast, during that same time frame, the real scientists were predicting warming. They were proven to be correct. That's why climate science has such credibility. It earned that credibility through 40 years of getting everything right. And that's why denialism has zero credibility, because it's gotten everything wrong for 40 years. If deniers want credibility, they need to make predictions and see them come true.

So, I see some deniers here are stating positively that things will start cooling immediately. That's good. At least they're mustering up the courage to take a stand.

However, we know how this turns out. It keeps warming strongly. In a couple years, we ask the deniers why the cooling didn't happen, and they yell "Next year! You wait and see!". They've been moving those goalposts for 40 years, and aren't about to stop now.

Actually it was YOUR hero's who told us that the world was cooling back in the 1970's, then they said no it's warming, then when the pause hit they changed to climate change (because lets face it, the climate is ALWAYS changing), and when that didn't pan out so good they changed it again to "global climate disruption" because they figured that they could blame any old storm on it, and they have, the problem is the storm frequency has DROPPED....oooooops.

So no, the only people who are provably hysterical are your hero's who have a fantastically bad prediction rate.

But thanks for playin!

LIAR!

Go home until you come up with something more substantial than a juvenile invective.

You first HYPOCRITE!!!

You lie like the best of them but the problem is you're bad at it.