The Lie of 9-11 and it's after effects

[Robert W]

Operation Northwoods was proposed to JFK by the JCS in the 60's.

The scenario was 9/11, i.e. swap commercial airliners out midflight, fly them into civilian targets, and blame Cuba and the Soviets. Classic false flag.

JFK rejected the plan.

These ideas have been around for decades.

Take a look at Operation Gladio. The CIA, MI-6, and Mossad committed dozens of false flag terrorist attacks in Europe. They killed thousands of innocent Europeans.

The EU officially condemned Gladio in 1990 (I think it was). Gladio never stopped though.

The BBC did an in depth documentary on Gladio in the 90's, and you can watch that on YouTube. There are better documentaries out there though. The BBC Doc has too much foreign language, and can be difficult to follow.

I read some of the items you posted where several gave me error 404. The others kept citing the 911 commission report. I will go by the NTSB report.

Government Releases Detailed Information on 9/11 Crashes

 

[wist43]

I read some of the items you posted where several gave me error 404. The others kept citing the 911 commission report. I will go by the NTSB report.

Government Releases Detailed Information on 9/11 Crashes

You're content to believe your government. Fair enough.

I prefer to investigate for myself. When something is obviously BS, I don't just go along to get along.

When 47 story buildings collapse in free fall - I don't think one needs to be a structural engineer to conclude that some relatively minor office fires did not cause that.

Most people will believe anything their government tells them though - regardless of how absurd.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth. I clicked on the link and it takes me right to the page.

If you're a pilot, you see what the pilots who flew those planes say.

Wrong you see a few crack pots.

Like all the other 911 truth sites no one knows who these people are. No one screens them for their qualifications.

Most pilots do not agree with you

 

[Soupnazi630]

You're content to believe your government. Fair enough.

I prefer to investigate for myself. When something is obviously BS, I don't just go along to get along.

When 47 story buildings collapse in free fall - I don't think one needs to be a structural engineer to conclude that some relatively minor office fires did not cause that.

Most people will believe anything their government tells them though - regardless of how absurd.

They did not collapse in free fall. That claim has long since been disproven

No one ever said they fell because of office fires.

You have not investigated you have fallen for conspiracy theory crap like a sap

 

[Soupnazi630]

Operation Northwoods was proposed to JFK by the JCS in the 60's.

The scenario was 9/11, i.e. swap commercial airliners out midflight, fly them into civilian targets, and blame Cuba and the Soviets. Classic false flag.

JFK rejected the plan.

These ideas have been around for decades.

Take a look at Operation Gladio. The CIA, MI-6, and Mossad committed dozens of false flag terrorist attacks in Europe. They killed thousands of innocent Europeans.

The EU officially condemned Gladio in 1990 (I think it was). Gladio never stopped though.

The BBC did an in depth documentary on Gladio in the 90's, and you can watch that on YouTube. There are better documentaries out there though. The BBC Doc has too much foreign language, and can be difficult to follow.

having ideas around for decades proves nothing

Northwoods is not evidence of a cover up or inside job on 911

 

[wist43]

I posted this before, but of course most people have no real interest in learning how intelligence operations and terrorism are used against us by our own governments.

As I said, the EU issued a formal declaration denouncing Gladio in 1990, but that was very much muted compared to the known crimes and terrorist acts committed by Gladio forces.

The countries of Europe did everything they dare do for decades to protect Gladio from being exposed. Any witness brave enough to try and expose the truth always ended up dead.

Finally the prosecution of Gladio operative Vincenzo Vinciguerra made it impossible for them to cover up completely, so they owned up to the minimum, condemned it, then moved on as if nothing happened.

Gladio continues to this day - which is why all citizens should view any "terrorist attack" with suspicion.

Operation Gladio Nato's Secret Armies

Very good video

 

[Soupnazi630]

I posted this before, but of course most people have no real interest in learning how intelligence operations and terrorism are used against us by our own governments.

As I said, the EU issued a formal declaration denouncing Gladio in 1990, but that was very much muted compared to the known crimes and terrorist acts committed by Gladio forces.

The countries of Europe did everything they dare do for decades to protect Gladio from being exposed. Any witness brave enough to try and expose the truth always ended up dead.

Finally the prosecution of Gladio operative Vincenzo Vinciguerra made it impossible for them to cover up completely, so they owned up to the minimum, condemned it, then moved on as if nothing happened.

Gladio continues to this day - which is why all citizens should view any "terrorist attack" with suspicion.

Operation Gladio Nato's Secret Armies

Very good video

That is because jone of this has jack shit to do with 911

 

[Robert W]

When 47 story buildings collapse in free fall - I don't think one needs to be a structural engineer to conclude that some relatively minor office fires did not cause that.

That collapse was studied by civil engineers working for private firms.

It seems to take looney people to imagine it fell thanks to men carting in boxes of explosives in plain daylight.

Why did Building 7 collapse?: 9/11 conspiracy theories debunked

There are several key reasons why conspiracy theorists have fixated on the collapse of Building 7, but they can all be easily debunked

www.history.co.uk

 

[wist43]

That collapse was studied by civil engineers working for private firms.

It seems to take looney people to imagine it fell thanks to men carting in boxes of explosives in plain daylight.

Why did Building 7 collapse?: 9/11 conspiracy theories debunked

There are several key reasons why conspiracy theorists have fixated on the collapse of Building 7, but they can all be easily debunked

www.history.co.uk

You have confirmation bias. The most critical aspect of science is falsification.

If you accept theories without challenging them, they have no value.

I know what the "official" party line is, most everybody does. What the 9/11 Truth movement is about is challenging the official narratives scientifically.

The 9/11 Truth movement says look at everything.

The official government position is believe us, and you can disregard anything that doesn't agree as conspiracy theory nonsense.

That is not good science, and is in no way acceptable.

I should point out that tremendous government pressure was put on scientific publications and academics not to challenge the official narrative. That is to be expected. That is how the game is played. There is almost always a cost to individuals who step out of line.

Articles in Engineering and Science Publications

AE911Truth is a nonprofit organization that represents more than 3,000 architects and engineers who are calling for a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7 on 9/11.

www.ae911truth.org

 

[Robert W]

You have confirmation bias. The most critical aspect of science is falsification.

If you accept theories without challenging them, they have no value.

I know what the "official" party line is, most everybody does. What the 9/11 Truth movement is about is challenging the official narratives scientifically.

The 9/11 Truth movement says look at everything.

The official government position is believe us, and you can disregard anything that doesn't agree as conspiracy theory nonsense.

That is not good science, and is in no way acceptable.

I should point out that tremendous government pressure was put on scientific publications and academics not to challenge the official narrative. That is to be expected. That is how the game is played. There is almost always a cost to individuals who step out of line.

Articles in Engineering and Science Publications

AE911Truth is a nonprofit organization that represents more than 3,000 architects and engineers who are calling for a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7 on 9/11.

www.ae911truth.org

I am not judging you at all. I studied this long ago. I am not easily fooled when experts debunk the conspiracy theories.

One advantage I happen to have is I spent years working with metals as a machine shop owner and understand the nature of steel as it is heated red hot. It loses its nature from when it is cold.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He heard an explosion BELOW him first

 

[Soupnazi630]

He heard an explosion BELOW him first

So?

People heard and saw a lot of things.

It s irrelevant and evidence of ...............nothing

 

[candycorn]

I posted this before, but of course most people have no real interest in learning how intelligence operations and terrorism are used against us by our own governments.

As I said, the EU issued a formal declaration denouncing Gladio in 1990, but that was very much muted compared to the known crimes and terrorist acts committed by Gladio forces.

The countries of Europe did everything they dare do for decades to protect Gladio from being exposed. Any witness brave enough to try and expose the truth always ended up dead.

Finally the prosecution of Gladio operative Vincenzo Vinciguerra made it impossible for them to cover up completely, so they owned up to the minimum, condemned it, then moved on as if nothing happened.

Gladio continues to this day - which is why all citizens should view any "terrorist attack" with suspicion.

Operation Gladio Nato's Secret Armies

Very good video

Did you ever explain what took down the light poles if it wasn't AA77....or why the supposed conspirators would even bother taking them down and staging them/hitting a taxi with one of them when they didn't need to do that?

PS: Nobody gives a shit about your video when you can't explain the physical evidence.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So?

People heard and saw a lot of things.

It s irrelevant and evidence of ...............nothing

Unlike Mohammed Atta undamaged passport, right? That’s real evidence

 

[knuckles]

A Massive amount of Data, from many, many sources, absolutely shows what The American people, & The World, were told about what happened on "9-11", was, & is a Horrific Lie, that led to Undeclared, & Unceasing War, Countless numbers of lives lost, & injured, "Trillions of Dollars Wasted", as well as the empowerment of "The Police State" in America, and many other nations. ​

I'm starting this post out with what the "New York Fire Commissioners" presented to The Public. Which The First Trump Administration "stonewalled", via Attorney General Barr, over "Procedural matters". ​

Ya'll, Jet Air Liners do not disintegrate upon impacting buildings such as the Pentagon, nor when crashing in to the ground!

The Plane to Ground, Cell phone call, which brought about the famous "Let's Roll!", was not possible until several years after 9-11.

No Plane crashed in to Building Seven, nor did WTC1, nor WTC2 collapse on it.

British News showed "Building 7" collapsing minutes before it actually did.

These are just a few examples of the Data that I will be posting herein. And I say again,.... The American People & The World were lied to.

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New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: “Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives”​

Date: July 30, 2019

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History was made this month in regard to 9/11

as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”


On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.


The resolution calling for a new investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and it was immediately and unanimously approved by the five commissioners."

New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: "Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives"

History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the...

thewashingtonstandard.com

That was the biggest sham perpetrated on the American people and the world up until the Covid-19 PLANDEMIC.
We can call these 2 mega falseflag events the twin towers of global deception.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Unlike Mohammed Atta undamaged passport, right? That’s real evidence

Yes exactly

 

[Soupnazi630]

That was the biggest sham perpetrated on the American people and the world up until the Covid-19 PLANDEMIC.
We can call these 2 mega falseflag events the twin towers of global deception.

Too bad you have no evidence to support that idiotic claom

 

[knuckles]

Too bad you have no evidence to support that idiotic claom

Pobrezinha......... you stay between the lines...... keep following and believing the deep state. The OP is providing information on the 9/11 farse.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes exactly

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I don't know why anyone would point a finger at anyone other than our own government??

If for no other reason than there was exactly zero fighter response.

Remember when Payne Stewart's private jet lost cabin pressure at altitude and everyone onboard died - while the plane continued flying on autopilot??

Our military dispatched 2 fighters to intercept and fly along side to see if they could see any activity in the stricken plane. How long did that take after being alerted to a possible catastrophic problem?? 20-25 minutes tops??

Yet on 9-11 we had "hijacked" planes flying all over the Eastern seaboard for how long?? 1 1/2 hours??

The reason there was no fighter response is because all of the fighters had been pulled out to participate in "drills". Anyone naive enough to think that is a coincidence??

False flags are almost always carried out in conjunction with organized drills.

Building 7 collapsed in free fall - from some relatively small office fires?? Really?? Anyone really believe that?? No planes hit building 7, yet it came down faster than a house of cards.

It is absurd to believe the "official narrative" put out by the 9/11 Commission.

Any talk of actual "terrorists", means that you are accepting of the absurd 9/11 Commission narrative.

AMEN Wist43!!