The Lie of 9-11 and it's after effects

[Soupnazi630]

The planes had to be modified and remote controlled.

No conventional passenger plane could withstand the stresses imposed on the aircraft flying beyond VMO, and still able to adjust their flight path at sea level.

That's not conspiracy theory, it's just plain, straight forward physics.

Once someone can bring themselves to accept that fact, it follows that the planes were RC, that there were no passengers on them, and that the "terrorists" that were presented to the public were, in fact, patsies.

Operation Able Danger controlled and managed the patsies. Even Newsweek covered this tangentially until someone got to them and shut down any further reporting.

Bone of the planes perfoormed any such maneuvers which would over stress them

It is conspiracy theory

it is not fact it is a silly and debunked claim.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yes, that's correct, but it only happened once that I know of, and that was at the Burlington Coat factory.

I’ve seen more. With photos.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

TruthSeeker112125

911 was a terrorist attack, but the terrorists were not muslims they were Israelis.

They quite possibly had a heavy hand in it Peter, but at the very least the Bush Jr. Admin. was Massively involved.

 

[DennisPTate]

At the time Trump said he thought there had to be explosions because the building couldn't come down on their own

Interesting!

There is another angle on this topic that I don't believe gets as much attention as i think that it should.

Three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater reports leaving her body and viewing the scene of the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack.

THE CHALLENGE OF SEPTEMBER 11
P. M. H. Atwater

INTRODUCTIONI was there, at least in spirit form, as a witness to what happened during theattack on America, September 11, 2001. I was doing what I could to help the soulsof the dead when the second plane hit. What I witnessed is contained in this smalloffering as my way of sharing, of adding to the voices across our fair planet whowish somehow to speak up and let others know how "9-11" affected them.The first version of a book manuscript I had been working on about deathand dying was sitting on the desk of a New York City publisher when the attackoccurred. As fate would have it, not only was I in attendance via spirit, but a physicalexpression of my soul was there as well in the way of the manuscript. And of allsubjects, a book about death. I flew up to the City several months later, and havebeen there on numerous occasions since. My husband and I live two hours fromthe Pentagon and were overwhelmed by telephone and e-mail outages and difficultywith mail service for over a month afterward. Many late charges on bills had tobe forgiven as we simply never received the notice of payment due in our mail.
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Wednesday morning, September 12th, and again in spirit form, I entered that state where the inner planes of the spirit realms are fully visible. I define the “inner planes,” by the way, as that dimension, that vibrational frequency, wherein lies the untarnished soul (our Higher Self) and the reality of God’s Greater Plan for humankind. Other levels of spirit are also visible from there.

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Instead of finding the confusion and disarray of the previous day, I was surprised to observe the departed souls forming a huge oscillating wave the shape of a“hand” stretching upward. They were coming together as if one energy mass and they were “waking up,” becoming aware of what had happened to them the terrorists and their victims alike for the shock-blast from the cataclysm had first numbed, then snapped the assemblage out of the trance they had been in.I have helped at many tragedies and led numerous prayer vigils, but never have I seen anything quite like this. I came to realize that it was the accumulation of prayer, the power unleashed by millions of caring people all intent on a singular

mission of mercy and compassion, that had enabled the souls who were part of this drama, all of them, to make the transition from living in an earthly body to existing“elsewhere” faster than what is typical. The souls of the dead no longer needed emergency assistance, so I turned my attention to those still embodied who hurt or were injured to do what I could for them.

I say “elsewhere” because I am not certain what became of some who were involved, and here’s why. The day before, while I hovered as a spirit at Ground Zero and witnessed the second plane hit and the aftermath, I had seen close up the faces of three of the terrorists in that plane, as well as a few images of what was going through their minds. One of them was in the cockpit of the plane, jaw locked, eyes firm and determined. He acted more like a robot than a human being and expressed no feelings. The two others were just outside the cockpit doorway.The younger of the two was in a state of utter disbelief as fire leapt toward him. He died screaming, “They lied to me.” (I heard him in English although what he spoke sounded Arabic to me and with a different word phrasing.)The third man expected to die, and was convinced that he would ascend in to a beautiful paradise upon his death. He welcomed the fireball with open arms, until the “heaven” of his expected reward turned out to be a nightmare. He, too, had believed a lie.

[P. M. H. Atwater]
http://pmhatwater.hypermart.net/resources/PDFs/911.pdf

Thread 'Could near death experience accounts be used to stop terrorists?'

Nov 30, 2025

Three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater describes what it was like to view the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack from the astral plane, [or should we say from five dimensions of space and time]?

What she saw has the potential to help at least some aspiring terrorists to calm down and choose a more productive career than some variation of "suicide bomber."

What Dr. Atwater describes fits with those less than totally encouraging and inspiring positive near death experience accounts but instead fits with the idea of a Purgatory or Hell that the Roman...

• DennisPTate
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• Forum: Paranormal

Could near death experience accounts be used to stop terrorists?​

 

[wist43]

I don't know why anyone would point a finger at anyone other than our own government??

If for no other reason than there was exactly zero fighter response.

Remember when Payne Stewart's private jet lost cabin pressure at altitude and everyone onboard died - while the plane continued flying on autopilot??

Our military dispatched 2 fighters to intercept and fly along side to see if they could see any activity in the stricken plane. How long did that take after being alerted to a possible catastrophic problem?? 20-25 minutes tops??

Yet on 9-11 we had "hijacked" planes flying all over the Eastern seaboard for how long?? 1 1/2 hours??

The reason there was no fighter response is because all of the fighters had been pulled out to participate in "drills". Anyone naive enough to think that is a coincidence??

False flags are almost always carried out in conjunction with organized drills.

Building 7 collapsed in free fall - from some relatively small office fires?? Really?? Anyone really believe that?? No planes hit building 7, yet it came down faster than a house of cards.

It is absurd to believe the "official narrative" put out by the 9/11 Commission.

Any talk of actual "terrorists", means that you are accepting of the absurd 9/11 Commission narrative.

 

[Soupnazi630]

They quite possibly had a heavy hand in it Peter, but at the very least the Bush Jr. Admin. was Massively involved.

It was muslim terrorists

 

[Soupnazi630]

I don't know why anyone would point a finger at anyone other than our own government??

If for no other reason than there was exactly zero fighter response.

Remember when Payne Stewart's private jet lost cabin pressure at altitude and everyone onboard died - while the plane continued flying on autopilot??

Our military dispatched 2 fighters to intercept and fly along side to see if they could see any activity in the stricken plane. How long did that take after being alerted to a possible catastrophic problem?? 20-25 minutes tops??

Yet on 9-11 we had "hijacked" planes flying all over the Eastern seaboard for how long?? 1 1/2 hours??

The reason there was no fighter response is because all of the fighters had been pulled out to participate in "drills". Anyone naive enough to think that is a coincidence??

False flags are almost always carried out in conjunction with organized drills.

Building 7 collapsed in free fall - from some relatively small office fires?? Really?? Anyone really believe that?? No planes hit building 7, yet it came down faster than a house of cards.

It is absurd to believe the "official narrative" put out by the 9/11 Commission.

Any talk of actual "terrorists", means that you are accepting of the absurd 9/11 Commission narrative.

ALL WRONG

There were massive differences between 911 and Stewarts plane. Stewarts plane was flying on auto pilot for HOURS not 20 to 25 minugtes before being intercepted. His aircraft had its transponder on the whole time making it very easy to intercept

On the other hand the 911 hijackers had their tyransponders turned off making it exceeding difficult to intercept them and it all began to happen WAY too fast.

 

[Robert W]

Understood Ran, but,.......... If only a few listen,...... That's far better than not speaking to one who would've planned their Life differently.
In a way, it's Biblical,..... Only a "Remnant" will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

And only a "Remnant" are willing to Seek The Truth.

Did you ever study the official reports on the crashes done by the very careful National Transportation Safety Board? What you claim is fiction.

 

[Robert W]

ALL WRONG

There were massive differences between 911 and Stewarts plane. Stewarts plane was flying on auto pilot for HOURS not 20 to 25 minugtes before being intercepted. His aircraft had its transponder on the whole time making it very easy to intercept

On the other hand the 911 hijackers had their tyransponders turned off making it exceeding difficult to intercept them and it all began to happen WAY too fast.

I am a pilot, so I know that your remarks are fact. The reason the hijackers pulled it off is they were also trained to be pilots. Transponders are normal for us to use. When one wants to hide his airplane from ATC radar, turn off the transponder.

 

[wist43]

Did you ever study the official reports on the crashes done by the very careful National Transportation Safety Board? What you claim is fiction.

I am a pilot, so I know that your remarks are fact. The reason the hijackers pulled it off is they were also trained to be pilots. Transponders are normal for us to use. When one wants to hide his airplane from ATC radar, turn off the transponder.

Why would you trust anything the government tells you??

There are how may commercial pilots that call BS on the official narrative??

American 77 (Pentagon) @ pf911t.org

 

[wist43]

I am a pilot, so I know that your remarks are fact. The reason the hijackers pulled it off is they were also trained to be pilots. Transponders are normal for us to use. When one wants to hide his airplane from ATC radar, turn off the transponder.

Ever hear of Operation Northwoods??

 

[Soupnazi630]

Why would you trust anything the government tells you??

There are how may commercial pilots that call BS on the official narrative??

American 77 (Pentagon) @ pf911t.org

A few

Thats all

The vast majority of pilots call BS on you and the conspiracy theory fools

 

[Soupnazi630]

Ever hear of Operation Northwoods??

Its irrelevant

 

[Robert W]

Ever hear of Operation Northwoods??

No. All this is not new. it did not take long for the big foot believers to create stories about the deadly crashes.

 

[Robert W]

Why would you trust anything the government tells you??

There are how may commercial pilots that call BS on the official narrative??

American 77 (Pentagon) @ pf911t.org

Your link turns up error 404 files not found.

 

[wist43]

Your link turns up error 404 files not found.

Pilots for 9/11 Truth. I clicked on the link and it takes me right to the page.

If you're a pilot, you see what the pilots who flew those planes say.

 

[Robert W]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth. I clicked on the link and it takes me right to the page.

If you're a pilot, you see what the pilots who flew those planes say.

Pilots who flew the airplanes died in the crashes.

 

[wist43]

No. All this is not new. it did not take long for the big foot believers to create stories about the deadly crashes.

Operation Northwoods was proposed to JFK by the JCS in the 60's.

The scenario was 9/11, i.e. swap commercial airliners out midflight, fly them into civilian targets, and blame Cuba and the Soviets. Classic false flag.

JFK rejected the plan.

These ideas have been around for decades.

Take a look at Operation Gladio. The CIA, MI-6, and Mossad committed dozens of false flag terrorist attacks in Europe. They killed thousands of innocent Europeans.

The EU officially condemned Gladio in 1990 (I think it was). Gladio never stopped though.

The BBC did an in depth documentary on Gladio in the 90's, and you can watch that on YouTube. There are better documentaries out there though. The BBC Doc has too much foreign language, and can be difficult to follow.

 

[wist43]

Pilots who flew the airplanes died in the crashes.

Oy vey, lol... I'm referring to pilots who had previously flown those exact planes.

 

[Robert W]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth. I clicked on the link and it takes me right to the page.

If you're a pilot, you see what the pilots who flew those planes say.

Correction by me. Some pages show up. Some have error 404 showing.