The left is trying to pivot...

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Prior to a couple days ago the statues were "offensive"

They had to come down because they were oppressing easily offended liberal black folk.

Now suddenly they have to come down because they represent traitors.


I'm just curious who convinced the left that their original argument was asinine? Why did the narrative change? And why weren't these "traitors" called out in the previous ONE HUNDRED YEARS?

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

 

[Meathead]

Pivoting is all they've done since their humiliating defeat. Remember the Beast and TPP? Russia?

Trump redefined the GOP, but the party of the KKK s desperately trying to redefine itself in a 1000 different directions.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Because only recently have black people won enough influence that people listen when they say it offends them that there are statues celebrating people who fought to keep them enslaved.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Since it was Democrats that put up the Confederate statues to begin with it's pretty funny that they now suddenly hate the statues....but the Dim Party is full of mindless useful idiots....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Because only recently have black people won enough influence that people listen when they say it offends them that there are statues celebrating people who fought to keep them enslaved.

I never heard a single black person whining about ANY statue. And for you to suggest that they had no valid opinions that were worthy of discussion until the year 2017 is insulting to every black person in America

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Since it was Democrats that put up the Confederate statues to begin with it's pretty funny that they now suddenly hate the statues....but the Dim Party is full of mindless useful idiots....

It's weird that now it's republicans who celebrate and are willing to kill in the name of protecting the statues, huh? But the republicunt party is full of inbred retards... useless idiots

 

[The Original Tree]

I guess we need to take down statues of Maxine Waters and Schummer now, because they are traitors.

Oh... my bad... that is actually Waters and Schummer standing like statues Doing Absolutely nothing.

Prior to a couple days ago the statues were "offensive"

They had to come down because they were oppressing easily offended liberal black folk.

Now suddenly they have to come down because they represent traitors.


I'm just curious who convinced the left that their original argument was asinine? Why did the narrative change? And why weren't these "traitors" called out in the previous ONE HUNDRED YEARS?

 

[cnelsen]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

A rally in Virginia on Saturday intended to “Unite the Right” ended in chaos and bloodshed. The way events unfolded suggests that the main battle plan for the powers that be in America has nothing to do with illusions such as “left” and “right”—nah, instead, their primary goal appears to be Dividing the White.

The rally was organized to protest the ongoing erasure of Confederate monuments throughout the South, specifically the Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville, VA. It was scheduled to launch at noon and featured speakers such as Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, Matthew Heimbach, and Christopher Cantwell. A rather visually fetching poster advertising the rally shows Confederate statues silhouetted in the back as a squadron of Rebel-flag-waving Civil War soldiers, half with Pepe the Frog’s face, stand guard and defend the statues’ honor. What appear to be some sort of German eagles fly above the soldiers. I’m not exactly up to date on my Nazi/eagle iconography, but it’s fair to say the average brainwashed American observer could be forgiven if they thought the poster invoked Nazi and Confederate imagery. I don’t think the organizers would try (or even wish) to deny it, either.

The rally’s planners had jumped through every possible legal hoop to ensure that the rally would commence without a hitch. Once they were issued a permit, it was revoked by the coffee-bean-colored Wes Bellamy, Vice-Mayor of Charlottesville. Wes never seems to miss an opportunity to remind you of his blackness. Among the groups he has joined (and even led) include 100 Black Men of Central Virginia, Young Black Professional Network of Charlottesville, and Charlottesville/Albemarle Alliance of Black School Educators. In case you missed it, Wes Bellamy wants you to know he’s black.

In tandem with his love of being black, Bellamy appears to hate white people. Over the years, Charlottesville, VA’s current Vice-Mayor has posted the following gems on Twitter (republished unedited and uncorrected):

I always feel sorry for the black kid growing up around alooooot of white people…

white chicks the devil

Lol funniest thing about being down south is seeing little white men and the look on their faces when they have to look up to you.

I hate seeing white people in Orangeburg

I DONT LIKE WHIT PEOPLE SO I HATE WHITE SNOW!!!!!

White women=Devil

Mind you, this is the guy who initially revoked a legal permit to hold a rally in Charlottesville on the premise that the attendees were hatemongers. I’ve searched and have been unable to find evidence of any of the scheduled speakers for the “Unite the Right” rally saying something quite on the Hate Level of “black women are the devil” or “I hate seeing black people in Arlington” or “I DON’T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE SO I HATE LICORICE!!!!!” Actually, I’d like to see any white politician in America who’s said equivalent things and still has their job.

The point is that Wes Bellamy is vocally pro-black and anti-white, still has his job, and he tried to use government power to squash a pro-white rally. And I haven’t seen anyone in the mainstream media even question whether there might be something even a tiny bit wrong with that scenario—some sort of, you know, insanely hypocritical double standard that might cause, or may even be engineered to cause, racial conflict rather than racial harmony.


To their credit, the ACLU stepped in and was able to reinstate the permit. On Friday night—on the eve of the rally—members of this coalition of neo-Confederates, white nationalists, Alt-Righters, and European traditionalists lit tiki torches and gathered beneath the Lee monument. Marchers chanted things such as “BLOOD AND SOIL” and “YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US.” The most amusing footage from that night rally involves a trans dude who calls himself Emily Gorcenski freaking out that his side was severely outnumbered.

But his side—aided and abetted by the police, government officials, and nearly all of the media—would show up in full force the next day.

I did not attend the event, but from what I can piece together from firsthand accounts, this is roughly what happened:

On Saturday morning, rally attendees headed toward Lee Park, where the event was scheduled to launch at noon. En route, they were met by the usual ragtag patchwork coalition of bused-in masked white anarchists, shirtless local black males with homemade flamethrowers, and shrieking obese transgender wallabies from the nearby college. As is their habit, the Antifa types began screaming and taunting and poking. They allegedly spat at anyone suspected of being a “Nazi,” also flinging urine, feces, rocks, and even cement-filled bottles at them.

Shortly before noon, police announced that a state of emergency had been declared and that the entire event therefore suddenly constituted an unlawful assembly. Pro-black Vice-Mayor Wes Bellamy’s wish had been granted: There would be no pro-white rally in Charlottesville.

Everyone was ordered to leave Lee Park immediately or face arrest. Whether or not the police—or, more likely, the people who were pulling their strings—were aware of it, this is the tactical situation they were setting up: They were forcing a large crowd of easily identifiable pro-white activists to disperse straight into the maws of the BLM and Antifa fanatics who consider it their highest moral calling to bloody and kill any white person who publicly declares it’s OK to be white.

I can see why the Black Lives Matter dudes, however knuckleheaded they are, would have problems with a pro-white rally. That’s simply how phenotypical racial tribalism works. What’s curious is the keening, unhinged hatred that the “anti-racist” whites have for their genetic cohorts who refuse to join them in their creepy, ethnomasochistic psychological self-cleansing rituals.

It’s hard to argue against the contention that in the current climate, any white person who doesn’t go out of their way to apologize for being a white person is Public Enemy Number One. What’s sociologically fascinating is this intra-racial tribal war among what are called the goodwhites and the badwhites. In case you couldn’t figure it out, the “goodwhites” are the ones that are constantly apologizing.

Shortly after being told that Lee Park was off-limits, police announced that the entire city of Charlottesville was an unlawful-assembly zone. The rally-goers were thus forbidden from holding smaller events in nearby parks. So as they dispersed, they were sent into the hands of bat-wielding local blacks, who persistently taunted them as they quietly tried walking to their cars.

I watched about twenty minutes of a livestream in Charlottesville where a lone white guy with a shaved head and sunglasses had a prolonged standoff with dozens of local blacks and a smattering of communist white weirdlings who mostly stood back and let their more muscular black allies do most of the taunting. I also watched another livestream where Alt-Right types were walking away from the event were screamed at by blacks leaning out of passing cars. According to accounts, many of the blacks who roamed the streets of Charlottesville couldn’t tell the difference between white nationalists and white anti-racists, so they harassed them all indiscriminately. This is funny to me for reasons that should be obvious.

What quickly became evident to me was that the authorities completely shut down an event where the organizers had a permit, but they didn’t touch the roaming mobs of BLM and Antifa goons who hadn’t bothered to obtain permits. Police allowed them to chant “WE HAVE REPLACED YOU” and “WE’RE HERE, WE’RE GAY, WE FIGHT THE KKK” despite that alleged order about all public assemblies being temporarily banned.

I watched the day’s most infamous event, and the one that will be milked of every last drop for political purposes, right as it livestreamed—the car-plowing incident that resulted in the death of one woman and injuries to dozens of others. I watched a person get killed as it happened, and even though I wasn’t there, it’s a feeling you can’t quite ever scrub from your mind. Plenty of evidence has emerged—and it will be suppressed—that before plowing into the crowd, murder suspect James Alex Fields, Jr.’s car had been repeatedly attacked by bat-wielding rioters.

Would this have happened if the event had gone on undisturbed and the police had provided adequate protection—like they’re supposed to do when someone has a legal permit and has yet to break any laws?

Would it have happened if, after declaring the entire city a no-assembly zone, the police also forcibly dispersed the BLM and Antifa mobs rather than let them block streets throughout downtown?

Most importantly, would this have happened if the current cultural diktat wasn’t that the worst person on earth, probably even worse than a murderer or a child molester, is a white person who says there’s nothing wrong with being white?

Answers to those questions: no, no, and NO.

Naturally, the mainstream media is blaming “white supremacists,” and ONLY “white supremacists,” for the violence and bloodshed in Charlottesville on Saturday. Then again, the media has been rancidly dishonest about leftist violence for years now. And politicians across the spectrum are singling out the pro-white folks for what happened. To his credit, Donald Trump blamed “all sides” for what happened, only to be called a Nazi.

I hate to break it to whomever thinks that politics in a multiracial society can ever be totally non-racial, but this eternally morphing movement known as “the right” will never be united while whites remain so divided. Y’all crackers need to work some shit out.

 

[irosie91]

it is called SCAPE GOATING------

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Because only recently have black people won enough influence that people listen when they say it offends them that there are statues celebrating people who fought to keep them enslaved.

I never heard a single black person whining about ANY statue. And for you to suggest that they had no valid opinions that were worthy of discussion until the year 2017 is insulting to every black person in America

Of course they had opinions. But in the south where the statues are, they didn't have rights until the 60's, and have continued to be marginalized. Before when they voiced anger about the statues in the south, nobody listened. Now, people are listening.

 

[IsaacNewton]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

And THAT is the problem. You and many others don't know or you pretend to not know. Anyone over 10 years old would know the answer to that question.

 

[BlackFlag]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

A rally in Virginia on Saturday intended to “Unite the Right” ended in chaos and bloodshed. The way events unfolded suggests that the main battle plan for the powers that be in America has nothing to do with illusions such as “left” and “right”—nah, instead, their primary goal appears to be Dividing the White.

The rally was organized to protest the ongoing erasure of Confederate monuments throughout the South, specifically the Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville, VA. It was scheduled to launch at noon and featured speakers such as Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, Matthew Heimbach, and Christopher Cantwell. A rather visually fetching poster advertising the rally shows Confederate statues silhouetted in the back as a squadron of Rebel-flag-waving Civil War soldiers, half with Pepe the Frog’s face, stand guard and defend the statues’ honor. What appear to be some sort of German eagles fly above the soldiers. I’m not exactly up to date on my Nazi/eagle iconography, but it’s fair to say the average brainwashed American observer could be forgiven if they thought the poster invoked Nazi and Confederate imagery. I don’t think the organizers would try (or even wish) to deny it, either.

The rally’s planners had jumped through every possible legal hoop to ensure that the rally would commence without a hitch. Once they were issued a permit, it was revoked by the coffee-bean-colored Wes Bellamy, Vice-Mayor of Charlottesville. Wes never seems to miss an opportunity to remind you of his blackness. Among the groups he has joined (and even led) include 100 Black Men of Central Virginia, Young Black Professional Network of Charlottesville, and Charlottesville/Albemarle Alliance of Black School Educators. In case you missed it, Wes Bellamy wants you to know he’s black.

In tandem with his love of being black, Bellamy appears to hate white people. Over the years, Charlottesville, VA’s current Vice-Mayor has posted the following gems on Twitter (republished unedited and uncorrected):

I always feel sorry for the black kid growing up around alooooot of white people…

white chicks the devil

Lol funniest thing about being down south is seeing little white men and the look on their faces when they have to look up to you.

I hate seeing white people in Orangeburg

I DONT LIKE WHIT PEOPLE SO I HATE WHITE SNOW!!!!!

White women=Devil

Mind you, this is the guy who initially revoked a legal permit to hold a rally in Charlottesville on the premise that the attendees were hatemongers. I’ve searched and have been unable to find evidence of any of the scheduled speakers for the “Unite the Right” rally saying something quite on the Hate Level of “black women are the devil” or “I hate seeing black people in Arlington” or “I DON’T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE SO I HATE LICORICE!!!!!” Actually, I’d like to see any white politician in America who’s said equivalent things and still has their job.

The point is that Wes Bellamy is vocally pro-black and anti-white, still has his job, and he tried to use government power to squash a pro-white rally. And I haven’t seen anyone in the mainstream media even question whether there might be something even a tiny bit wrong with that scenario—some sort of, you know, insanely hypocritical double standard that might cause, or may even be engineered to cause, racial conflict rather than racial harmony.


To their credit, the ACLU stepped in and was able to reinstate the permit. On Friday night—on the eve of the rally—members of this coalition of neo-Confederates, white nationalists, Alt-Righters, and European traditionalists lit tiki torches and gathered beneath the Lee monument. Marchers chanted things such as “BLOOD AND SOIL” and “YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US.” The most amusing footage from that night rally involves a trans dude who calls himself Emily Gorcenski freaking out that his side was severely outnumbered.

But his side—aided and abetted by the police, government officials, and nearly all of the media—would show up in full force the next day.

I did not attend the event, but from what I can piece together from firsthand accounts, this is roughly what happened:

On Saturday morning, rally attendees headed toward Lee Park, where the event was scheduled to launch at noon. En route, they were met by the usual ragtag patchwork coalition of bused-in masked white anarchists, shirtless local black males with homemade flamethrowers, and shrieking obese transgender wallabies from the nearby college. As is their habit, the Antifa types began screaming and taunting and poking. They allegedly spat at anyone suspected of being a “Nazi,” also flinging urine, feces, rocks, and even cement-filled bottles at them.

Shortly before noon, police announced that a state of emergency had been declared and that the entire event therefore suddenly constituted an unlawful assembly. Pro-black Vice-Mayor Wes Bellamy’s wish had been granted: There would be no pro-white rally in Charlottesville.

Everyone was ordered to leave Lee Park immediately or face arrest. Whether or not the police—or, more likely, the people who were pulling their strings—were aware of it, this is the tactical situation they were setting up: They were forcing a large crowd of easily identifiable pro-white activists to disperse straight into the maws of the BLM and Antifa fanatics who consider it their highest moral calling to bloody and kill any white person who publicly declares it’s OK to be white.

I can see why the Black Lives Matter dudes, however knuckleheaded they are, would have problems with a pro-white rally. That’s simply how phenotypical racial tribalism works. What’s curious is the keening, unhinged hatred that the “anti-racist” whites have for their genetic cohorts who refuse to join them in their creepy, ethnomasochistic psychological self-cleansing rituals.

It’s hard to argue against the contention that in the current climate, any white person who doesn’t go out of their way to apologize for being a white person is Public Enemy Number One. What’s sociologically fascinating is this intra-racial tribal war among what are called the goodwhites and the badwhites. In case you couldn’t figure it out, the “goodwhites” are the ones that are constantly apologizing.

Shortly after being told that Lee Park was off-limits, police announced that the entire city of Charlottesville was an unlawful-assembly zone. The rally-goers were thus forbidden from holding smaller events in nearby parks. So as they dispersed, they were sent into the hands of bat-wielding local blacks, who persistently taunted them as they quietly tried walking to their cars.

I watched about twenty minutes of a livestream in Charlottesville where a lone white guy with a shaved head and sunglasses had a prolonged standoff with dozens of local blacks and a smattering of communist white weirdlings who mostly stood back and let their more muscular black allies do most of the taunting. I also watched another livestream where Alt-Right types were walking away from the event were screamed at by blacks leaning out of passing cars. According to accounts, many of the blacks who roamed the streets of Charlottesville couldn’t tell the difference between white nationalists and white anti-racists, so they harassed them all indiscriminately. This is funny to me for reasons that should be obvious.

What quickly became evident to me was that the authorities completely shut down an event where the organizers had a permit, but they didn’t touch the roaming mobs of BLM and Antifa goons who hadn’t bothered to obtain permits. Police allowed them to chant “WE HAVE REPLACED YOU” and “WE’RE HERE, WE’RE GAY, WE FIGHT THE KKK” despite that alleged order about all public assemblies being temporarily banned.

I watched the day’s most infamous event, and the one that will be milked of every last drop for political purposes, right as it livestreamed—the car-plowing incident that resulted in the death of one woman and injuries to dozens of others. I watched a person get killed as it happened, and even though I wasn’t there, it’s a feeling you can’t quite ever scrub from your mind. Plenty of evidence has emerged—and it will be suppressed—that before plowing into the crowd, murder suspect James Alex Fields, Jr.’s car had been repeatedly attacked by bat-wielding rioters.

Would this have happened if the event had gone on undisturbed and the police had provided adequate protection—like they’re supposed to do when someone has a legal permit and has yet to break any laws?

Would it have happened if, after declaring the entire city a no-assembly zone, the police also forcibly dispersed the BLM and Antifa mobs rather than let them block streets throughout downtown?

Most importantly, would this have happened if the current cultural diktat wasn’t that the worst person on earth, probably even worse than a murderer or a child molester, is a white person who says there’s nothing wrong with being white?

Answers to those questions: no, no, and NO.

Naturally, the mainstream media is blaming “white supremacists,” and ONLY “white supremacists,” for the violence and bloodshed in Charlottesville on Saturday. Then again, the media has been rancidly dishonest about leftist violence for years now. And politicians across the spectrum are singling out the pro-white folks for what happened. To his credit, Donald Trump blamed “all sides” for what happened, only to be called a Nazi.

I hate to break it to whomever thinks that politics in a multiracial society can ever be totally non-racial, but this eternally morphing movement known as “the right” will never be united while whites remain so divided. Y’all crackers need to work some shit out.

^ tl:dr =

 

[BULLDOG]

Prior to a couple days ago the statues were "offensive"

They had to come down because they were oppressing easily offended liberal black folk.

Now suddenly they have to come down because they represent traitors.


I'm just curious who convinced the left that their original argument was asinine? Why did the narrative change? And why weren't these "traitors" called out in the previous ONE HUNDRED YEARS?

Who said the argument changed? The statues are offencive because they are of traitors.

 

[Rocko]

They've always been labeled as statues of traitors. That's part of why they're offensive.

Offensive to whom exactly?

The people in the towns and cities that want them gone.

Not buying it. As I stated in the op, why did they "suddenly" become offensive in 2017 versus the previous CENTURY?

Because only recently have black people won enough influence that people listen when they say it offends them that there are statues celebrating people who fought to keep them enslaved.

Bull fucking shit. And there's no way you believe that to be true. Why lie?

 

[cnelsen]

they didn't have rights until the 60's,

The 14th Amendment was passed in 1868. You did mean the 1860s, didn't you?

 

[DOTR]

The left metasticizes. Look back at my old posts on the subject. As I predicted they are now going after Washington and Jefferson. Soon they will go after FDR and JFK for attending all white schools. And Johnson for being President of a country which banned abortion.
Be that as it may...confederate soldiers were heros. Not one Confederate soldier was ever charged with treason. Confederate soldiers are, by federal law, considered American veterans. The federal government will provide a headstone for any Confedrrate soldier free of charge.
The only man ever even accused in the matter was Jefferson Davis and the Union courts laughed the case into oblivion and freed him with no prejudice attatched.
So yes in addition to being amoral twats liberals are also ignorant of history and law.