The Lavon Affair: When Israel Firebombed U.S. Installations

[Boston1]

So now you are going to lie about the Turkish invasion as well eh Monty ? Good plan, clearly you have everyone fooled.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah the Arab Muslim colonists didn't really enter the picture in that area of the world until Judaic investment started pouring in thanks to the zionist movement.

Where do you come up with such nonsense. You think that no one was living in Palestine before the European colonists began invading?

From real history books that are not afraid to tell the truth. According to the Catholic encyclopedia the Jews were the majority from the 1800's till 1948.

 

[Phoenall]

Yes because of islamonazi and catholic blood libels, propaganda LIES and false testimony. Now that the world is starting to see just how devious and manipulative they were they are starting to sympathise with the Jews,

 

[Phoenall]

They knew the Jews

No they believed the blood libels and lies spread by the islamonazis and catholics

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah the Arab Muslim colonists didn't really enter the picture in that area of the world until Judaic investment started pouring in thanks to the zionist movement.

What a bunch of ignoramuses we have posting. That can't discern between a Arabian and a Turk. Who do you think defeated the Christian (Romans/Byzantines) army at the Battle of Yarmouk in 636 and went on to capture Christian Palestine in 637 AD. You are so uneducated it isn't funny. And, you proudly demonstrate it. LOL

And only managed to hold it for 22 years, in which time they built the mosque on the temple mount. The same mosque that mo'mad is said to have visited 35 years before he died.

 

[Phoenall]

There were no Turkish colonists, the Ottomans just took over as rulers from the Arabian rulers. The people stayed the same, Christians and Muslims. You really need to bone up on history, you are making such a fool of yourself making up your own history. Do some research and you won't appear so foolish.

The Zionists themselves claimed to be colonists. Why do you contradict what the Zionists proclaimed? You see how foolish you appear when you don't do proper research.

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.

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Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

And, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency in 1926.

"July 25, 1926

London (Jul. 23)

(Jewish Telegraphic Agency)


Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committee

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ

And like your demographics spiel we are still waiting for it to happen

 

[Phoenall]

There was no Ottoman colonial settlement project. You don't even know who the Ottomans were, when they took control of Palestine, or from who. You just babble nonsense.

When did the Ottoman invasion of Palestine take place and who did they replace as rulers you silly goose. You don't have a clue.

1486 and they replaced the Mamluks

 

[Hollie]

There was no Ottoman colonial project. There were no Turkish settlers. Why should I address it? Notice how none of your friends are chiming in? They are cringing.

Try to find out when the Ottomans took over Palestine and replaced the then rulers of Palestine and try to connect the dots. You might learn something.

De-Nile of the Ottoman invasion and colonial project appeals to you history illiterate types. Ignorance as an excuse is a poor excuse for not taking the time to learn history.

This would be a good time to cut and paste something off topic, but that only serves to reinforces your incompetence.

 

[Boston1]

What I don't get is why he's all up in arms about an empty library being targeted vs the endless pogroms the Arabs have committed against innocent Judaic people.

For instance the Damascus affair

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The Damascus affair was an accusation of ritual murder and a blood libel against Jews in Damascusin 1840. On February 5, 1840, FranciscanCapuchin friar Father Thomas and his Greek servant were reported missing, never to be seen again. TheTurkish governor and the French consul Ratti-Menton believed accusations of ritual murder and blood libel, as the alleged murder occurred before the Jewish Passover. An investigation was staged, and Solomon Negrin, a Jewish barber, confessed under torture and accused other Jews. Two other Jews died under torture, and one (Moses Abulafia) converted to Islam to escape torture. More arrests and atrocities followed, culminating in 63 Jewish children being held hostage and mob attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East.

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Nevertheless, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jaffa (1876), Jerusalem (1847, 1870 and 1895), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), and Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891).[21]

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How do you justify the torture and murder of countless Judaic people, long before the Israeli state ever existed ???????

Hundreds of thousands of Arabs killed by Arabs and people like Monty couldn't care less. Innocent Judaic children torn from their mothers arms and Ole Monty turns a blind eye. But let an empty library get damaged with no loss of life or even injuries and he's off.

 

[Challenger]

1486 and they replaced the Mamluks

1516, as it happens.

 

[Freeman]

So the Israeli's blow up an empty library 65 or so years ago, and your all up in arms ?

But the Syrians kill 470,000 of their own Arab Muslims in just the last few years just a few miles from Israel and you're cool with that ?

No wonder no one takes you seriously Monty

But do go on ;--)

I have opened many threads about the savage regime who killed thousands in Syria.

It's evident why Israelis want to arm bloody dictators in the region.
Israelis call for arms for Assad to save regime

 

[Freeman]

"An educational presentation about the 1954 Lavon affair prepared by the MI history and heritage division found that MI had not sufficiently trained the members of the sabotage unit, who were mostly amateurs and included several Egyptian Jews, and had failed to give them cover stories, plan escape routes or otherwise plan for the possibility that they would be caught.
"First and foremost, this is the story of the failure of Military Intelligence, starting with the choice of targets for the network's sabotage operations, the operational planning and the superficial and sloppy training, and ending with the method of execution, which totally failed to carry out the pointless mission, which had no chance of reaching the strategic goal its operators had set: the cancellation of the planned British evacuation of the Suez Canal," stated the MI analysis.
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.
The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage."

read more: MI figures out what went wrong in Lavon affair - 55 years later

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"An educational presentation about the 1954 Lavon affair prepared by the MI history and heritage division found that MI had not sufficiently trained the members of the sabotage unit, who were mostly amateurs and included several Egyptian Jews, and had failed to give them cover stories, plan escape routes or otherwise plan for the possibility that they would be caught.
"First and foremost, this is the story of the failure of Military Intelligence, starting with the choice of targets for the network's sabotage operations, the operational planning and the superficial and sloppy training, and ending with the method of execution, which totally failed to carry out the pointless mission, which had no chance of reaching the strategic goal its operators had set: the cancellation of the planned British evacuation of the Suez Canal," stated the MI analysis.
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.
The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage."

read more: MI figures out what went wrong in Lavon affair - 55 years later

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

62 years since the Lavon affair. Are you so desperate that you have to reach that far back?

 

[RoccoR]

Freeman, et al,

I'm not entirely sure how anyone can talk about this "operation" not knowing who all the players were and the intimate details behind it.

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

(COMMENT)

While it appears to be independently inspired by the Israelis, that doesn't rule out the invisible hand of some other power influencing it. Even within Israel, it is not absolutely clear if the Operation was run by the Directorate of Military Intelligence (IDF) or the Israeli National Intelligence Service (Mossad). While there appeared to be Unit 131 fingerprints on the operation, it is not clear who controlled Unit 131. We are not even sure that the operation actually failed, as we do not know if the Israelis were manipulated into an operation that purposely gave the outward appearance of failure; to insure the success of another operation or establish the bona fides of another operative for a country yet unidentified.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Freeman]

Freeman, et al,

I'm not entirely sure how anyone can talk about this "operation" not knowing who all the players were and the intimate details behind it.

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

(COMMENT)

While it appears to be independently inspired by the Israelis, that doesn't rule out the invisible hand of some other power influencing it. Even within Israel, it is not absolutely clear if the Operation was run by the Directorate of Military Intelligence (IDF) or the Israeli National Intelligence Service (Mossad). While there appeared to be Unit 131 fingerprints on the operation, it is not clear who controlled Unit 131. We are not even sure that the operation actually failed, as we do not know if the Israelis were manipulated into an operation that purposely gave the outward appearance of failure; to insure the success of another operation or establish the bona fides of another operative for a country yet unidentified.

Most Respectfully,
R

The terrorists were honored by the israeli president.

Israel honors Egyptian spies 50 years after fiasco Wed., March 30, 2005 Adar 2 19, 5765

By Reuters

After half a century of reticence and recrimination, Israel on Wednesday honored nine Egyptian Jews recruited as agents-provocateur in what became one of the worst intelligence bungles in the country’s history. Israel was at war with Egypt when it hatched a plan in 1954 to ruin its rapprochement with the United States and Britain by firebombing sites frequented by foreigners in Cairo and Alexandria.

 

[RoccoR]

Freeman, et al,

You're not listening.

Israel honors Egyptian spies 50 years after fiasco Wed., March 30, 2005 Adar 2 19, 5765

(COMMENT)

You don't know anything about these people, about the operation, or have the data point necessary to evaluate the success they had or did not have.

Your assignment of the terrorist tag is solely based on an Open Source of a dubious reputation, on the topic of an some sort of classified operation, the details of which have not been released.

Don't jump to conclusions. What appears to be a failed operation (you consider a false flag op) may not be that at all. It could be that a newly inserted penetration operator needed to establish credibility by exposing a threat posed. It could have been to assist an inside operative to gain greater credibility .... It could be any number of things. You simply don't know.

The fact that Avri Elad (a native Israeli) lives in the US (Los Angeles the last I heard), should tell you something. There is much more to Third Man and "The Lavon Affair" than meets the eye.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Boston1]

So Freeman, why are you refusing to address the damascus affair ?

 

[Phoenall]

So the Israeli's blow up an empty library 65 or so years ago, and your all up in arms ?

But the Syrians kill 470,000 of their own Arab Muslims in just the last few years just a few miles from Israel and you're cool with that ?

No wonder no one takes you seriously Monty

But do go on ;--)

I have opened many threads about the savage regime who killed thousands in Syria.

It's evident why Israelis want to arm bloody dictators in the region.
Israelis call for arms for Assad to save regime

And everyone has been from an islamonazi pallywood productions propaganda source with no actual link to reality or truth

 

[Phoenall]

"An educational presentation about the 1954 Lavon affair prepared by the MI history and heritage division found that MI had not sufficiently trained the members of the sabotage unit, who were mostly amateurs and included several Egyptian Jews, and had failed to give them cover stories, plan escape routes or otherwise plan for the possibility that they would be caught.
"First and foremost, this is the story of the failure of Military Intelligence, starting with the choice of targets for the network's sabotage operations, the operational planning and the superficial and sloppy training, and ending with the method of execution, which totally failed to carry out the pointless mission, which had no chance of reaching the strategic goal its operators had set: the cancellation of the planned British evacuation of the Suez Canal," stated the MI analysis.
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.
The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage."

read more: MI figures out what went wrong in Lavon affair - 55 years later

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

More to the point how many false flag attacks by the Palestinians have been touted as Israeli and still believed after the truth has come out. Like the Jenin affair that had posters and flags issued the day before that take 3 weeks to produce .

 

[Phoenall]

Freeman, et al,

I'm not entirely sure how anyone can talk about this "operation" not knowing who all the players were and the intimate details behind it.

This false flag attack failed.
The question: how many false flag Mossad attacks didn't fail in the world?

(COMMENT)

While it appears to be independently inspired by the Israelis, that doesn't rule out the invisible hand of some other power influencing it. Even within Israel, it is not absolutely clear if the Operation was run by the Directorate of Military Intelligence (IDF) or the Israeli National Intelligence Service (Mossad). While there appeared to be Unit 131 fingerprints on the operation, it is not clear who controlled Unit 131. We are not even sure that the operation actually failed, as we do not know if the Israelis were manipulated into an operation that purposely gave the outward appearance of failure; to insure the success of another operation or establish the bona fides of another operative for a country yet unidentified.

Most Respectfully,
R

The terrorists were honored by the israeli president.

Israel honors Egyptian spies 50 years after fiasco Wed., March 30, 2005 Adar 2 19, 5765

By Reuters

After half a century of reticence and recrimination, Israel on Wednesday honored nine Egyptian Jews recruited as agents-provocateur in what became one of the worst intelligence bungles in the country’s history. Israel was at war with Egypt when it hatched a plan in 1954 to ruin its rapprochement with the United States and Britain by firebombing sites frequented by foreigners in Cairo and Alexandria.

Like the terrorists are always honoured by the islamonazi's. There must be around 1 million schools named after the same islamonazi terrorist in islamonazi nations compared to this one Israeli incident. Do you ever think of the damage you do when the facts are posted in reply to your racial/religious attacks on the Jews ?