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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

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Now you know the Iraq govt. does not want the Kurds to have heavy weapons....
 

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The Arabs, Kurds, and Turks have to beat ISIS down with their own major ground units, not ours. If they can't beat ISIS with our help, we can't beat them without the locals' major assistance.
 

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The Kurds have ousted ISIS from the Turkish border town that the right said was going to be lost because of,,Oblama...
 

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

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Do tell ... :cool:
 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau

If our asshole president would have simply armed the Kurds, there would be no ISIS to speak of now. This guy is just one massive failure after another. I lost count of how many countries Obama has fucked up. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. Once he leaves, it's going to take a few years just to clean up his mess.
 

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If our asshole president would have simply armed the Kurds, there would be no ISIS to speak of now. This guy is just one massive failure after another. I lost count of how many countries Obama has fucked up. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. Once he leaves, it's going to take a few years just to clean up his mess.

This seems rather naive considering the fact that ISIS has some of its way back roots prior to becoming AQI in a Kurdish militant group, among others. Kurdish fighters have absolutely no chance of completely defeating ISIS; they have political and geographical constraints that would prevent them from controlling all of the territory that ISIS operates within.
 

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If our asshole president would have simply armed the Kurds, there would be no ISIS to speak of now. This guy is just one massive failure after another. I lost count of how many countries Obama has fucked up. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. Once he leaves, it's going to take a few years just to clean up his mess.

This seems rather naive considering the fact that ISIS has some of its way back roots prior to becoming AQI in a Kurdish militant group, among others. Kurdish fighters have absolutely no chance of completely defeating ISIS; they have political and geographical constraints that would prevent them from controlling all of the territory that ISIS operates within.

The Kurds number in the millions and they have have been fighting Sadam, the Turks, the Syrians etc. for centuries. They are legendary experienced fighters, with a very tolerant culture. After the Iraq war, Iraqi Kurdistan was the most stable with the least terrorism. All the US needs to do is give them the weapons they need and watch ISIS disappear off the map. Sure in the end all countries need to agree to give them some of their land in exchange for either a state or an autonomous region. Who else deserves a homeland but the Kurds who are ancient people that have been on their land for thousands of years?
 

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The Arabs, Kurds, and Turks have to beat ISIS down with their own major ground units, not ours. If they can't beat ISIS with our help, we can't beat them without the locals' major assistance.
The Arabs and Turks are afraid to give the Kurds weapons because they know any territory they gain from ISIS is going to be kept by them, since it is actually their land.
 

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If our asshole president would have simply armed the Kurds, there would be no ISIS to speak of now. This guy is just one massive failure after another. I lost count of how many countries Obama has fucked up. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. Once he leaves, it's going to take a few years just to clean up his mess.

This seems rather naive considering the fact that ISIS has some of its way back roots prior to becoming AQI in a Kurdish militant group, among others. Kurdish fighters have absolutely no chance of completely defeating ISIS; they have political and geographical constraints that would prevent them from controlling all of the territory that ISIS operates within.

The Kurds number in the millions and they have have been fighting Sadam, the Turks, the Syrians etc. for centuries. They are legendary experienced fighters, with a very tolerant culture. After the Iraq war, Iraqi Kurdistan was the most stable with the least terrorism. All the US needs to do is give them the weapons they need and watch ISIS disappear off the map. Sure in the end all countries need to agree to give them some of their land in exchange for either a state or an autonomous region. Who else deserves a homeland but the Kurds who are ancient people that have been on their land for thousands of years?

And they have a regional block of territory outside of which they have little ability to govern / control. They depend on ethnic identities and thus notions of them rolling through all of Iraq and Syria and destroying ISIS are a bit naive. The Kurds may be able to hold their own territory, but they aren't the answer to ISIS.
 

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau
Disgusting hypocrisy. It would have been better if your crazy regime would not have created and armed ISIS and Co. Now you want to keep the bloodshed running by arming even more groups.

The people should support the Syrian and the Iraqi armies instead of incalculable groups erecting their various caliphates and regimes.

You, if you want to play hell, do it where it hurts nobody.
 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau
Disgusting hypocrisy. It would have been better if your crazy regime would not have created and armed ISIS and Co. Now you want to keep the bloodshed running by arming even more groups.

The people should support the Syrian and the Iraqi armies instead of incalculable groups erecting their various caliphates and regimes.

You, if you want to play hell, do it where it hurts nobody.

The Syrian government used to be one of the funders of ISIS and its predecessor movements like the ISI / AQI, not to mention numerous other terrorist groups like Hamas, and Hezbollah. There is little reason to support Assad.
 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau


best ISIL flying swirl

provided by kurdish forces

--LOL

 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau
Disgusting hypocrisy. It would have been better if your crazy regime would not have created and armed ISIS and Co. Now you want to keep the bloodshed running by arming even more groups.

The people should support the Syrian and the Iraqi armies instead of incalculable groups erecting their various caliphates and regimes.

You, if you want to play hell, do it where it hurts nobody.

The Syrian government used to be one of the funders of ISIS and its predecessor movements like the ISI / AQI, not to mention numerous other terrorist groups like Hamas, and Hezbollah. There is little reason to support Assad.
Incredible nonsense. It has already been proven that the US is behind ISIS. Assad is the only reason why the western backed terrorists were not able to create their ME Caliphate. After the evil saw that FSA and allies failed, it sent out ISIS on its massive offensives in 2014. And it is still arming ISIS.

URGENT Unknown aircrafts drop weapons to ISIS southeast of Tikrit - Iraqi News
 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau

I agree 100%, the Kurds are our only friends in the region besides Israel, we should be doing more for them.
 

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By Boris Johnson

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I am standing on the muddy floor of an old cement factory in northern Iraq and trying to console a widow. It’s not easy to find the words. She has come from Mosul, like hundreds of other families in the expanding refugee camp that surrounds us, and she has lost her husband to the maniacs. We call them Isil; they call them Da’ish – and of all the human scourges that have ever afflicted this planet, they are among the most repellent.

They took against her husband because he was a Shabak, an adherent of an ancient and syncretic religion that has something in common with the Yazidis – the worshippers of the peacock god whose sufferings we saw on our screens last year. They asked him to renounce his faith, and to become a Sunni Muslim. He refused. They took him away and shot him, as they have murdered so many others – like the poor Japanese hostage this weekend – with the hideous gloating arrogance of their movement. Now she lives with her seven grimy children in a hessian tent, with no money and no hope; no food, no heat, no protection save what she gets from the Kurdish government.

Continue reading at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11368832/The-Kurds-cau

If our asshole president would have simply armed the Kurds, there would be no ISIS to speak of now. This guy is just one massive failure after another. I lost count of how many countries Obama has fucked up. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. Once he leaves, it's going to take a few years just to clean up his mess.

You are correct, the Kurds are fighting ISIS with Soviet era weapons, if we armed them with our equipment ISIS would have been finished off by Halloween.
 

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Incredible nonsense. It has already been proven that the US is behind ISIS. Assad is the only reason why the western backed terrorists were not able to create their ME Caliphate. After the evil saw that FSA and allies failed, it sent out ISIS on its massive offensives in 2014. And it is still arming ISIS.

URGENT Unknown aircrafts drop weapons to ISIS southeast of Tikrit - Iraqi News

Why would the US have an interest in supporting the group that has been killing its soldiers in Iraq? Your conspiracy theory makes absolutely no sense; there is no US interest in a destabilized Iraq.
 

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You are correct, the Kurds are fighting ISIS with Soviet era weapons, if we armed them with our equipment ISIS would have been finished off by Halloween.

Except that the Kurds don't have the local support means to operate far outside of their own regional base of power, which means that they wouldn't have the ability to fight most of ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
 

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You are correct, the Kurds are fighting ISIS with Soviet era weapons, if we armed them with our equipment ISIS would have been finished off by Halloween.

Except that the Kurds don't have the local support means to operate far outside of their own regional base of power, which means that they wouldn't have the ability to fight most of ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

Well you have a point, if the Kurds start taking Sunni Arab towns and going too far outside of Kurdistan all hell will break loose, because the Arabs hate the Kurds. It still makes sense to arm them to stop ISIS from gaining any ground, letting the Kurds fight ISIS in Kobani with old rusty soviet rifles was madness when it could have been over in weeks with real support.
 

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The Kurds are only really militarily helpful as a defensive containment force. Even with better weapons they wouldn't be able to operate well in most of Iraq and Syria.
 

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