The Killing Of The United States of America

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And suddenly you love Rs!
I was one until Trump drove me out. I could not tolerate being associated with an idiot. I am now a conservative Independent.
You are no conservative, and you never have been.
Says who? You? You have no credibility. Conservatives are leaving the Republican Party. What is left are right wing Nazis like you.
Democrat NAZI talking points, of course. You can't get closer to behaving like a NAZI than your typical hardcore partisan Democrat. Who is censoring their opposition? Who is trying to make it illegal to carry conservative news stations? Who is removing all safeguards against election fraud? Who is looting the treasury for the benefit of their supporters?
 
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I was one until Trump drove me out. I could not tolerate being associated with an idiot. I am now a conservative Independent.
You are the problem in this country. It drove you out because you don't like his personality which is a stupid criteria to select leaders. Ignore the accomplishments and vote for your leaders like you voted for your favorite American Idol contestant: how they look, how they speak, how they smile........

No wonder our country is doomed.
You are the problem in the Republican Party. The Republican Party has become a party of fascism. Ronald Reagan would have left the party as well. Voters disapproved of most of Trump's policies.

You are the threat to denocracy in this country.
NOT.
 

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Trump has attacked 17 incumbent Republicans and the chief strategist for the GOP, Karl Rove. He has attacked the Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. Now he wants the GOP to stop using his name.

CNN reported last week that Trump is weighing the creation of a super PAC as he seeks to assert his authority over the Republican Party and expand his post-presidential political operation.

Creating a super PAC would allow Trump to raise unlimited amounts of money from virtually any source while facing no limits on spending. The former President also made several changes last week to his growing fundraising apparatus.

Trump lacked the intelligence, experience, persona, and leadership qualities to be President. In addition he has mental quirks that do not comply with leadership such as extreme narcissism and vindictiveness. He is sent careening off track by the merest slight and seeks revenge nearly every time.

These are extremely poor qualities for a leader to have. Yet he is extremely popular, has political clout and is able to amass millions of dollars in contributions.

Where is that money coming from?

Why is it his supporters lack the ability to communicate, including his fans in Congress?

Many have long suspected that -- possibly with Russia's help as in election 2016 redux --there is a powerful consortium that wants Trump in a leadership role.

Why? So they can control him, and, by virtue of that control, sharply influence matters within the United States.

With Trump's enormous ego, he would be extremely easy to manipulate as many rulers have done already, rulers like Putin, Kim, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Turkey's Erdoğan, as well as others.

Does this consortium exist? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Under the circumstances, though, the theory is logical.
Says a moron who voted for Biden.
You are the moron who voted for Trump.
The morons voted for the Democrat Reich Furher. They are the ones who enjoy groveling before their dear leader.
 

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All prices flucuate. That's the nature of prices.
It doesn't fluctuate 70 cents per gallon between dates like Jan 20th and March 5th. When that happens, something is seriously wrong.
A stock like Gamestop is not worth $137 a share but that is what the market prices it at. There are some serious issues with our markets and that includes the oil markets. There is no reason for it to keep going up yet it still does.
The price of oil goes down all the time, moron, and the main problem with Gamestop is that the regulators are in bed with the hedge funds.
 

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Hey Ray what do you think about this?
Trump foreign policy--- a disaster unless you were russia or a dictator
Trump trade policy----tariffs, another disaster, China's economy rolling
Trump health policy--- no where close to replacing Obamacare, complete inability to fight pandemic causing 40% more unnecessary deaths, admitted he lied to American people.
Success with Iran---- nil, with trade partners ---minimal at best. Success at the polls---one term president, lost the house and Senate.

Destined to be graded as the worst President in modern US history
 

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bri Price of oil up because people are driving and flying more and as vaccine becomes more successful prices will increase
 

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If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.


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Anything put out by the Heritage Foundation is pure, unfiltered right wing radicalized bullshit.

Heritage Foundation thinks their readers are so goddamn dumb, they give you their interpretation of the bill.

They don't even post the bill itself.

Republicans are just Trumptard chickenshits who will swallow whatever these right wing organizations decide to spew.
 

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OH YEAH, this is just TERRIBLE::


"""H. R. 1

To expand Americans’ access to the ballot box, reduce the influence of big money in politics, strengthen ethics rules for public servants, and implement other anti-corruption measures for the purpose of fortifying our democracy, and for other purposes."""

 

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OH THE HORROR!!!!!

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Summary: H.R.1 — 117th Congress (2021-2022)All Information (Except Text)

There is one summary for H.R.1. Bill summaries are authored by CRS.
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (01/04/2021)

For the People Act of 2021
This bill addresses voter access, election integrity and security, campaign finance, and ethics for the three branches of government.

Specifically, the bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

The bill requires states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.
(me: to stop gerrymandering)

Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including sharing intelligence information with state election officials, supporting states in securing their election systems, developing a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions, establishing in the legislative branch the National Commission to Protect United States Democratic Institutions, and other provisions to improve the cybersecurity of election systems.
(this is such a bad idea??)

Further, the bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices. (again, this is such a bad idea??)

The bill addresses ethics in all three branches of government, including by requiring a code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices, prohibiting Members of the House from serving on the board of a for-profit entity, and establishing additional conflict-of-interest and ethics provisions for federal employees and the White House.

The bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for those offices to disclose 10 years of tax returns.""" <<<<< This is a great idea.


Sorry, OK Texas, pull your head out of the Heritage Foundation's ass and learn how to research the facts.
 

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OH THE HORROR!!!!!

"
Summary: H.R.1 — 117th Congress (2021-2022)All Information (Except Text)

There is one summary for H.R.1. Bill summaries are authored by CRS.
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (01/04/2021)

For the People Act of 2021
This bill addresses voter access, election integrity and security, campaign finance, and ethics for the three branches of government.

Specifically, the bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

The bill requires states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.
(me: to stop gerrymandering)

Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including sharing intelligence information with state election officials, supporting states in securing their election systems, developing a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions, establishing in the legislative branch the National Commission to Protect United States Democratic Institutions, and other provisions to improve the cybersecurity of election systems.
(this is such a bad idea??)

Further, the bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices. (again, this is such a bad idea??)

The bill addresses ethics in all three branches of government, including by requiring a code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices, prohibiting Members of the House from serving on the board of a for-profit entity, and establishing additional conflict-of-interest and ethics provisions for federal employees and the White House.

The bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for those offices to disclose 10 years of tax returns.""" <<<<< This is a great idea.


Sorry, OK Texas, pull your head out of the Heritage Foundation's ass and learn how to research the facts.
Every item helps the commies and nobody else. Especially the last part in their attempt to stop Trump from coming back. But this is what Nazis do. Make sure nobody with the power to beat the hell out of them join the race. That's the only reason the Nazis put that in there.
 

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If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.


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Democrats are using this bill to legalize voter fraud.
They came up with this POS bill in 2019...but couldn't get it thru congress.....now they're trying to trick everyone into thinking it's the COVID relief bill.

First they abused our election laws.....and now they're claiming that this is gonna fix what they did.
So really they are the criminals that are trying to legalize their own crimes. It's no small wonder why they're scared enough to build a wall around Washington to protect them from us.

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That is a lie. Election laws in many states were passed with a bipartisan majority. You are the criminals who tried to steal a election and now you are trying to do it through voter suppression. They have to build a wall because of traiterous Trump terrorists. The same ones trying suppress the vote.
The primary states in question, like PA, never allowed the legislature to have a voice in the law changes. The governor made rule changes....not changes in the law....which is unconstitutional. He didn't follow the law. He ignored them. But this is what Democrats do.

For example:

Pennsylvania violated federal election laws
In Pennsylvania, the governor and state Supreme Court clearly violated the supreme law of the land. Section IV, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution is clear:​
The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the Legislature thereof; but Congress may at any time make or alter such regulations, except as to the place of choosing Senators. (Emphasis added.)​
In simpler terms, the U.S. Constitution says the elected legislators of each state are to determine when, where, and how citizens will vote. The problem? Pennsylvania’s Governor Tom Wolf (a Democrat) ignored this clause after his state’s Republican legislature would not approve his request to extend voting for three days, nor accept mail-in ballots during that time window if they didn’t have postmarks. Refusing to take no for an answer, Wolf ran to the left-leaning Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which rubber-stamped his proposal.​
Either we’re a nation of laws or we’re not. If states in our union are to be governed by laws and not lawless tyrants, Pennsylvania’s election process was not legal. Therefore, Pennsylvania’s electors were selected illegally, and their electoral college votes must be invalidated.​
 

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If that was true of the GOP, then why didn't McConnell support said "conspiracy wing"? The establishment GOP might give a few concessions to populists, but they're still globalists. And a large segment of Republican voters threw their support to Biden. A lot of "never Trumpers" exist in the party. They're likely to regain control of the party by either 2022 or 2024.

As far as the Squad goes, they don't scare me. They are kind of amusing. Their ideas are typically easy to criticize, because of their poor understanding of economics. That being said, I do actually agree with them sometimes. They seem to understand that the surveillance state should be scaled back, for example.
He did. And still does. He's a coward and traitor like nearly every other Republican in Congress.

And those that aren't cowards and traitors? The will soon be ex-Republicans.

And for people who aren't scared of the "Squad" you spend a tremendous amount of time making sure people don't hear what they say.
I'm not a Republican. I am conservative leaning, but I'm not in lockstep with that party, nor do I have much faith in the system in general. All I'm saying is that much of the GOP pays lip service to populism right now, and they may continue to do some of it in the coming years, but they're not likely to follow Trump's path in terms of policy. Most of them have the same globalist masters as the Democrats.

Some of the GOP does fixate on the Squad. They should probably focus more on Pelosi, since she has more of the actual power.
Really?

More than 4 months since the election...
Where do you see the GOP drifting away from Trump?
What NEW not-trump policies have they proposed?

The Conspiracy-Q-Man-Just Oppose wing of the party has taken over and shows no sign of loosening the grip.

Pelosi passed this stimulus which will reduce poverty for millions of Americans, Pelosi Passed HR-1 which will restrict the GOP's ongoing drive to deny the right to vote to any eligible voter whose skin is slightly darker than Madonna. Pelosi's not the problem. The GOP fixation on power at any cost is the problem.

The fix is the elimination of the GOP.
 

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You live in lies don't you?

Too bad. When yhe bubble bursts, though, there are those who can help with your cult sickness.
No lies at all.

So you're complaining about being lied to by a Trump appointee?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
 

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You are as ignorant of the fuel markets as you are so obviously ignorant of everything else you attempt to be stupid about.

But it seems you're also missing the impact of the idiots in Texas...
Oh, so you're talking with somebody that traded commodities for three years and I have no idea what I'm talking about, huh?

An unexpected surge of cold weather took place in Texas that didn't have the lines and stations winterized like we do up north. The windmills froze, snow covered those worthless solar panels, distribution stations that supplied natural gas froze, it was something nobody at the beginning of the season could have predicted.

An internet friend of mine wrote me on Facebook that he and his wife are moving out of their senior center because they won't allow him to have an emergency generator installed. He said he never had to do that in his life, and he's lived in that part of Texas his entire life.
But...But...BUUUUUUUT

I thought it was Biden's fault!?!?!?!?!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
 

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No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.
I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.
Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?
Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.

No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

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Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.


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REALLY...OH REALLY...OH THANK YOU SO MUCH...

Uhm....

Your source goes back to 1982 and lists some 1,600 instances of "fraud" spread across 40 years.
For reference we've had 11 presidential elections counting some 800 MILLION votes and an additional 11 federal elections plus special elections generating some 600,000 votes plus primaries and local elections. Conservatively, so to speak, 1600 cases out of 1.5 BILLION votes.

For the math disabled that percentage is .0000107 percent.

Thank you for proving very clearly that all the screaming about fraud is just that. FRAUD!

And? I just posted it to prove they aren't outright lies, and I bet the 1,600 legitimate voters that had their votes cancelled would take it so lightly.

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You posted it to prove that fraud is such a small concern as to be legally and statistically insignificant?

Well, you proved your point.

All it take is enough to tip one race to alter the balance of power, doesn't it?

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Again, NO. As clearly demonstrated by Trump's own DHS.
How did his DHS (whatever the fuck that is) demonstrate that?
Trump's DHS published a clear "most secure election in US history" right after the election.

Now who was lying...
Trump the guy who has been documented to have lied more than 30k times in the last five years or
The Trump appointed DHS Cyber guy whose ethics are praised by the entire Cyber community, Congress, and his peers in DHS?

Hmmm...Who should we believe?
 

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I'm not a Republican. I am conservative leaning, but I'm not in lockstep with that party, nor do I have much faith in the system in general. All I'm saying is that much of the GOP pays lip service to populism right now, and they may continue to do some of it in the coming years, but they're not likely to follow Trump's path in terms of policy. Most of them have the same globalist masters as the Democrats.

Some of the GOP does fixate on the Squad. They should probably focus more on Pelosi, since she has more of the actual power.
Really?

More than 4 months since the election...
Where do you see the GOP drifting away from Trump?
What NEW not-trump policies have they proposed?

The Conspiracy-Q-Man-Just Oppose wing of the party has taken over and shows no sign of loosening the grip.

Pelosi passed this stimulus which will reduce poverty for millions of Americans, Pelosi Passed HR-1 which will restrict the GOP's ongoing drive to deny the right to vote to any eligible voter whose skin is slightly darker than Madonna. Pelosi's not the problem. The GOP fixation on power at any cost is the problem.

The fix is the elimination of the GOP.
If the GOP actually stays true to populism, that will be a pleasant surprise, but they will have to fight the globalist elite to the same degree that Trump had to.

Retaining power at any cost is what the elites do. You seem unable to realize that both your party and the establishment of the GOP have the same masters.

Nevertheless, if you want to blind yourself with the identity politics that the elite have fed you, I can't stop you. And if this stimulus bill is anything like its predecessors, far more of the funds have gone to corporations instead of the public. Corporate welfare is a bipartisan problem.
 

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