The Jimmy Carter Record

[rightwinger]

Carter was basically a weak president who tried too hard to keep everyone happy. He misread the situation in Iran and allowed it to blow up in our face, he had a weak response on the hostage crisis and did little to help an economy that saw double digit inflation and interest rates

On the positive side, he was the only President able to negotiate a lasting peace accord in the mid-east region and maintained strict budgetary controls.

Carter is probably one of the most decent persons to hold the presidency and accomplished much more once he left office

 

[whitehall]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

 

[rightwinger]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

I think Ford would have done a better job

 

[Two Thumbs]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

I think Ford would have done a better job

The dems knew anyone could beat Ford b/c of Nixon, so it seems little effort was put into finding a leader.

As far as Billy goes, he couldn't make beer that didn't suck, so....

 

[Oldstyle]

I'm curious, Midcan...since you don't like Reagan's message that Government was the problem not the solution, I'm guessing that you're LOVING our current Administration's belief that Government is the solution to everything? Just one problem...how do we pay for that?

Oh, that's right...you like tax hikes! Well here's a number for you to wrap your progressive mind around...if we were to take all of the money that the top 2% of Americans make, that still wouldn't pay for projected shortfalls due to entitlements. Gee, what's a liberal to do?

 

[rightwinger]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

I think Ford would have done a better job

The dems knew anyone could beat Ford b/c of Nixon, so it seems little effort was put into finding a leader.

As far as Billy goes, he couldn't make beer that didn't suck, so....

1976 was supposed to be Teddy Kennedy's year. He ran into a little problem crossing a bridge and the Dems had to scramble to find the next in line. Carter, Muskie and a few others were all they had

 

[Two Thumbs]

I think Ford would have done a better job

The dems knew anyone could beat Ford b/c of Nixon, so it seems little effort was put into finding a leader.

As far as Billy goes, he couldn't make beer that didn't suck, so....

1976 was supposed to be Teddy Kennedy's year. He ran into a little problem crossing a bridge and the Dems had to scramble to find the next in line. Carter, Muskie and a few others were all they had

And according to Carter, Ted was a resentfull little kid about it and actually worked against Carter.

 

[Patrick2]

Carter faced the same opposition Clinton, and now Obama face from the right, and from corporate sponsored right wing think tanks and big money conservatives.

Yaaaaa - we know how leftwingers would prefer no political opposition.

Carter inherited serious stagflation from Nixon/Ford and on top that an oil embargo.

The economy got FAR worse under Carter, and Carter infamously made the gasoline situation unnecessarily far worse by implementing a rationing scheme.

It is getting harder today to fault democratic presidents as the power of money since FDR manages a message that many believe in spite of contrary information.

Incoherent babble.

I consider Reagan our worst contemporary president as he started the decline of America's middle class through his policies and through ideas that made the few devices that can protect workers the enemy, namely unions and government.

Simpleminded defamation. In fact, Reagan's 1981 HUGE tax rate cuts and deregulation ended the nightmarish Carter stagflation and set off a 17 year economic boom - he was elected in a landslide in 1980, re-elected in another landslide in 1984, and his vice president, Bush 1 (who unfortunately turned out to be a RINO) was elected in 1988, merely by his association with Reagan. It's clear that the majority of people who were voting at the time disagreed with the standard leftwing historical revision of Reagan.

 

[Patrick2]

Seriously ridiculous thread.

You have no facts, no rebuttal, no arguments. Scram.

 

[Patrick2]

Not that I care about Carter...

But he didn't "give" the canal back.

TR had us build it and signed up for it to be ours for so much time, that time was up.

Carter properly kept our word.

After that, it's all down hill.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Panama Canal Treaty gave the canal zone to the US in perpetuity. Carter did indeed GIVE the canal back.

 

[Patrick2]

Carter was basically a weak president who tried too hard to keep everyone happy. He misread the situation in Iran and allowed it to blow up in our face, he had a weak response on the hostage crisis and did little to help an economy that saw double digit inflation and interest rates

On the positive side, he was the only President able to negotiate a lasting peace accord in the mid-east region and maintained strict budgetary controls.

Carter is probably one of the most decent persons to hold the presidency and accomplished much more once he left office

I've heard that line before - inspite of Carter's arrogance and unremitting sequence of failures that harmed the US in ways that resonated long after he left office, people insist on calling him "decent".

 

[Patrick2]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

Billy Carter's dog could have done a better job.

 

[Patrick2]

Billy Carter could have done a better job.

I think Ford would have done a better job

Ford was clueless.

 

[konradv]

How about how Carter was responsible for the ultimate fall of the Soviet Union by backing Afghan freedom fighters and getting them embroiled in their own Viet Nam? Of course, then Reagan-Bush came along and ignored the country after the Soviets left, allowing the Taliban and then Al Qaeda to control the country. Gee thanks, Ronnie!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Carter was basically a weak president who tried too hard to keep everyone happy. He misread the situation in Iran and allowed it to blow up in our face, he had a weak response on the hostage crisis and did little to help an economy that saw double digit inflation and interest rates

On the positive side, he was the only President able to negotiate a lasting peace accord in the mid-east region and maintained strict budgetary controls.

Carter is probably one of the most decent persons to hold the presidency and accomplished much more once he left office

I've heard that line before - inspite of Carter's arrogance and unremitting sequence of failures that harmed the US in ways that resonated long after he left office, people insist on calling him "decent".

Carter was a weak president who was in over his head. However, the lasting damage from his presidency was significantly less than George Bush whose presidency was by far the worst in modern times

 

[Patrick2]

How about how Carter was responsible for the ultimate fall of the Soviet Union by backing Afghan freedom fighters and getting them embroiled in their own Viet Nam?

That's about the most ludicrous crackpot take on history I've ever heard!

Reagan brought down the soviet union by taking them on with a military buildup: with such notable projects as a huge ramp up in the navy, the awesome MX missile, the Strategic Defense Initiative, and the Pershing II missile deploiyment in western europe.
The whole time he did this appeasers in the US and europe were whimpering that he was a warmonger. Reagan also took on the soviet union morally, something the libs never did, with such as his "Dustbin of History" speech in the UK, and his "Tear doen this wall" speech in Berlin. Gorbachev's KGB leaders, as about as hard-headed and realistic people as there are on the planet, informed him that the soviet union couldn't keep up with it, that it was bankrupting the soviet union. In the end they collapsed from Reagan's steadfastness plus the waekness of their socialist economy. (Note: Of course leftwing historical revisionists try to portray a few end-of-the-regime proximate causes as the real cause of the collapse.)

 

[Patrick2]

Carter was basically a weak president who tried too hard to keep everyone happy. He misread the situation in Iran and allowed it to blow up in our face, he had a weak response on the hostage crisis and did little to help an economy that saw double digit inflation and interest rates

On the positive side, he was the only President able to negotiate a lasting peace accord in the mid-east region and maintained strict budgetary controls.

Carter is probably one of the most decent persons to hold the presidency and accomplished much more once he left office

I've heard that line before - inspite of Carter's arrogance and unremitting sequence of failures that harmed the US in ways that resonated long after he left office, people insist on calling him "decent".

Carter was a weak president who was in over his head. However, the lasting damage from his presidency was significantly less than George Bush whose presidency was by far the worst in modern times

Hogwash. While RINO Bush ramped up spending and regulation, there's NOTHING he did that in any way compares with carter's many foreign policy disasters. Also, portraying Bush as worse than obama is a real giggle.

 

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[Two Thumbs]

How about how Carter was responsible for the ultimate fall of the Soviet Union by backing Afghan freedom fighters and getting them embroiled in their own Viet Nam? Of course, then Reagan-Bush came along and ignored the country after the Soviets left, allowing the Taliban and then Al Qaeda to control the country. Gee thanks, Ronnie!!!

And if he stayed you'd be a bitch and cry that we forced our way of life on them.

fucktards are so inconsistant.

 

[rightwinger]

I've heard that line before - inspite of Carter's arrogance and unremitting sequence of failures that harmed the US in ways that resonated long after he left office, people insist on calling him "decent".

Carter was a weak president who was in over his head. However, the lasting damage from his presidency was significantly less than George Bush whose presidency was by far the worst in modern times

Hogwash. While RINO Bush ramped up spending and regulation, there's NOTHING he did that in any way compares with carter's many foreign policy disasters. Also, portraying Bush as worse than obama is a real giggle.

Bush was guilty of one of the largest foreign policy blunders in US History in his decision to attack Iraq. His tactical and strategic blunders cost 4000 US lives and tied us up in foreign engagements for ten years and counting

His deer in the headlights response to the economic collapse puts him in the company of Hoover

Add in his weak response to Katrina, torture, human rights violations and environmental and worker safety record and you easily have the worst president in modern history if not the worst of all time