The Issue Of The Land

[MJB12741]

As I stated previously, as long as the Palestinians insist on having all of the land rather than accept any proposal for a one state or two state agreement, Israel wins.

 

[MartyNYC]

Whose land?

 

[Ringo]

Comments from Arabs on Zelensky's visit to the LAS:
"A Jew came to tell Arabs about the inadmissibility of occupying other people's territories."

 

[MartyNYC]

Comments from Arabs on Zelensky's visit to the LAS:
"A Jew came to tell Arabs about the inadmissibility of occupying other people's territories."

Arabs occupy most of the Middle East.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Applies to e.g. Germany just as well. Some called him Odin others Wotan - since according to "believers" there is only one God - it's obviously the same guy. And somehow this guy couldn't give a shit about the kingdom of Israel being wiped out - it's people being dispersed, persecuted and being faced with the holocaust.

Therefore logic and common sense dictates that God must be an anti Semite. Who undoubtedly did not want Jews/Hebrews/Israelite to remain there, but allowed/favored others to take over.
God also did not reinstate Jews to rule parts of Palestine - but the UN.

The land is called Israel.

 

[Kruska]

The land is called Israel.

Those patches of land that were acquitted by the UN - or the one, the Zionist Ben Gurion and his successors decided to grab additionally?

 

[MartyNYC]

Those patches of land that were acquitted by the UN - or the one, the Zionist Ben Gurion and his successors decided to grab additionally?
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There wasn’t any place in the Middle East known as historic Palestine. Britain called the British Mandate “Palestine”, an English word and a European nickname for the area that Jews called the land of Israel. The sole purpose of the Mandate was Israeli statehood, not a state of palestine.

In the Muslim Ottoman Empire preceding the British Mandate, no entity existed called Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There wasn’t any place in the Middle East known as Palestine. Britain called the British Mandate “Palestine” whose sole purpose was Israeli statehood, not a state of palestine.

More bullshit from the bullshit state.

 

[Mindful]

• When the terror groups talk about "resistance," they are referring to the need for terrorism against Israel, including firing rockets from the Gaza Strip, and attacks by stabbing, shooting and car-ramming.
• "The people of Palestine have no historical rights to Palestine. They have no right that dates back 2,000, 3,000, or 4,000 years. The right of the Canaanites to Palestine is equal to the pharaohs' right to Egypt. Is it conceivable that any Muslim in Egypt would say: 'I am Pharaonic and proud of it?' Well, it is the same if a Muslim in Palestine said, 'I am a Canaanite and proud of it.' To hell with your Canaanite identity and to his Pharaonic identity. People, our history is simple and it is not ancient. It must not be said that the Palestinians have Canaanite roots. Our history dates back only 1,440 years.... The only thing you are allowed to say is: Oh Palestinians, you are Muslims." — Issam Amira, Palestinian Islamic scholar, al-Aqsa Mosque, April14, 2023
• The revival of the "al-Aqsa is in danger" libel is part of an ongoing effort by Palestinians and other Muslims to delegitimize and eliminate Israel. Palestinian leaders and Muslim "scholars" spread lies about Israel and Jews to encourage and justify terrorism.
• The real threat to the mosque and other holy sites in Jerusalem is posed those Palestinians and Muslims who use battle cries to incite violence, terrorism and Jew-hate.
• Incomprehensibly, much of the international community, the media, and even prominent self-declared "human rights" organizations persist in defaming Israel and ignoring this fabricated, toxic incitement by Palestinian and Muslim leaders.

The Real Threat to Al-Aqsa Mosque is From Muslims, Not Jews

If anyone has been desecrating al-Aqsa Mosque, it is Muslims who have been rioting and using rocks and fireworks to attack police officers and Jewish visitors. Muslim rioters -- not peaceful Jewish visitors -- are the real threat to the sanctity of the

www.gatestoneinstitute.org

 

[Mindful]

Laugh all you like, Tinmore.

It really doesn’t bother me.

 

[MJB12741]

• When the terror groups talk about "resistance," they are referring to the need for terrorism against Israel, including firing rockets from the Gaza Strip, and attacks by stabbing, shooting and car-ramming.
• "The people of Palestine have no historical rights to Palestine. They have no right that dates back 2,000, 3,000, or 4,000 years. The right of the Canaanites to Palestine is equal to the pharaohs' right to Egypt. Is it conceivable that any Muslim in Egypt would say: 'I am Pharaonic and proud of it?' Well, it is the same if a Muslim in Palestine said, 'I am a Canaanite and proud of it.' To hell with your Canaanite identity and to his Pharaonic identity. People, our history is simple and it is not ancient. It must not be said that the Palestinians have Canaanite roots. Our history dates back only 1,440 years.... The only thing you are allowed to say is: Oh Palestinians, you are Muslims." — Issam Amira, Palestinian Islamic scholar, al-Aqsa Mosque, April14, 2023
• The revival of the "al-Aqsa is in danger" libel is part of an ongoing effort by Palestinians and other Muslims to delegitimize and eliminate Israel. Palestinian leaders and Muslim "scholars" spread lies about Israel and Jews to encourage and justify terrorism.
• The real threat to the mosque and other holy sites in Jerusalem is posed those Palestinians and Muslims who use battle cries to incite violence, terrorism and Jew-hate.
• Incomprehensibly, much of the international community, the media, and even prominent self-declared "human rights" organizations persist in defaming Israel and ignoring this fabricated, toxic incitement by Palestinian and Muslim leaders.

The Real Threat to Al-Aqsa Mosque is From Muslims, Not Jews

If anyone has been desecrating al-Aqsa Mosque, it is Muslims who have been rioting and using rocks and fireworks to attack police officers and Jewish visitors. Muslim rioters -- not peaceful Jewish visitors -- are the real threat to the sanctity of the

www.gatestoneinstitute.org

So true. But let us consider all of the Palestinian contributions to making a better world, right Tinmore?

 

[MartyNYC]

More bullshit from the bullshit state.

Abdullah al-Hadlaq, writer, Al-Watan, Kuwait: “When the state of Israel was established in 1948 there was no state called palestine. Where did we get that name which we have been defending? It didn’t exist.”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

 

[MartyNYC]

More bullshit from the bullshit state.

6 Nobel Prize Laureates in science. 22 Arab countries: 0. 57 Muslim countries: 1

 

[P F Tinmore]

6 Nobel Prize Laureates in science. 22 Arab countries: 0. 57 Muslim countries: 1

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Deflection.

 

[Mindful]

Deflection.

Which you keep trying.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abdullah al-Hadlaq, writer, Al-Watan, Kuwait: “When the state of Israel was established in 1948 there was no state called palestine. Where did we get that name which we have been defending? It didn’t exist.”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”

 

[Mindful]

Palestinian Jews or Jewish Palestinians were the Jewish inhabitants of the Palestine region (known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, lit. 'Land of Israel') prior to the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.

The common term used to refer to the Jewish communities of Ottoman Syria during the 19th century[1] and British Palestine prior to the 1948 establishment of the State of Israel[1] is Yishuv(lit. 'settlement'). A distinction is drawn between the "New Yishuv", which was largely composed of and descended from Jewish immigrants who arrived in the Levant during the First Aliyah (1881–1903), and the "Old Yishuv", which was the pre-existing Jewish community of Palestine prior to the consolidation of Zionism and the First Aliyah.


Wikipedia.

 

[Mindful]

Not only that:

In addition to applying to Jews who lived in Palestine during the British Mandate era, the term "Palestinian Jews" has been applied to the Jewish residents of Southern Syria, corresponding to the southern part of the Syria region under the Ottoman Empire; there are also historical scholarly instances in which Jews residing in the Palaestina Prima and Palaestina Secundaprovinces (4th to 7th centuries CE) of the Byzantine Empire in Late Antiquity were referred to as "Palestinian Jews".[citation needed]​

After the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the Jews of Mandatory Palestine became Israeli citizens, and the term "Palestinian Jews" has largely fallen into disuse and is somewhat defunct, in favour of the modern term Israeli Jews.​

 

[MartyNYC]

Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:


The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

British Palestine, not Arab Palestine. English word, not Arabic. British Mandate Palestine was not a state but it became the state of Israel. In British Mandate Palestine, Jews were designated as Palestinians until becoming Israelis. Here, Golda Meir explains her being a Palestinian in British Mandate Palestine…

 

[P F Tinmore]

So true. But let us consider all of the Palestinian contributions to making a better world, right Tinmore?

Famous Palestinian People​

10 Celebrities Who Are Surprisingly Palestinian​

Famous Palestinian People​