The Issue Of The Land

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
League of Nations in the early 20th century authorized the Jewish National Home in “Palestine”. No national home for “palestinians“

They didn't have to. By international law, Palestine became a state in 1924.

Kruska · May 14, 2023

There are hundreds of renowned Egyptologists, not just one - and everyone is constantly debunked or questioned by others. And everyday new discoveries are made that shed new light or completely debunk-eliminate previous thoughts, thesis's or so called facts.

And that is obviously something the writers/inventors of the Bible, never took into account - just as the inventors/falsifiers of the "Donation of Constantinian".
Or they simply thought that threatening with the respective religion and it's punishment stories - could prevent others from seeking different explanations or refuting those Bible stories.

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
You evidently have a learning disability. I informed you that Israelites were Canaanites.

Some did some didn't. Jesus talked to a Canaanite woman. If she were a Jew, that distinction would not have been made. Some eventually became Palestinians.

Kruska · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
You evidently have a learning disability. I informed you that Israelites were Canaanites.

Obviously you can't read - I already presented the translation that debunks your personal claim of Israelite's having been Canaanites.
You are simply sticking, grasping and holding onto your self-written Bible.

And people who can't present substantiated arguments - always resort to personal attacks as a last straw!

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Some did some didn't. Jesus talked to a Canaanite woman. If she were a Jew, that distinction would not have been made. Some eventually became Palestinians.

There were no Canaanites in Jesus’s time. The reference to a Canaanite woman is a literary device to show Jesus helping a person associated with biblical enemies of the Jews. Canaanite signifies gentile.

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

Kruska said:
Obviously you can't read - I already presented the translation that debunks your personal claim of Israelite's having been Canaanites.
You are simply sticking, grasping and holding onto your self-written Bible.

And people who can't present substantiated arguments - always resort to personal attacks as a last straw!

William Dever, a world-renowned Middle East archaeologist and scholar, says Israelites were Canaanites. You know better?

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
They didn't have to. By international law, Palestine became a state in 1924.

There never was a state of Palestine. This is why you cannot identify any heads of this alleged state—it never existed. Palestine was merely Britain’s nickname for the British Mandate whose sole purpose was a Jewish state. British Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 with Israeli statehood.

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

Kruska said:
There are hundreds of renowned Egyptologists, not just one - and everyone is constantly debunked or questioned by others. And everyday new discoveries are made that shed new light or completely debunk-eliminate previous thoughts, thesis's or so called facts.

And that is obviously something the writers/inventors of the Bible, never took into account - just as the inventors/falsifiers of the "Donation of Constantinian".
Or they simply thought that threatening with the respective religion and it's punishment stories - could prevent others from seeking different explanations or refuting those Bible stories.

You lost the debate.

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
There never was a state of Palestine. This is why you cannot identify any heads of this alleged state—it never existed. Palestine was merely Britain’s nickname for the British Mandate whose sole purpose was a Jewish state. British Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 with Israeli statehood.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Some did some didn't. Jesus talked to a Canaanite woman. If she were a Jew, that distinction would not have been made. Some eventually became Palestinians.

There were no Canaanites in Jesus’s time. The “Canaanite” woman was Greek. Are palestinians Greek?

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

Name the heads of state of your alleged state of Palestine in 1924.

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

Is it an Israeli talking point that the “Canaanite” woman in the NT was Greek and not a Palestinian?

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

No heads of state of your alleged state of Palestine in 1924? I didn’t think so. You just made it up.

MJB12741 · May 14, 2023

Kruska said:
Don't get me wrong - for my part this isn't about Jews or antisemitism - but religious books as such.

The old testimony compiled by Jews aka Israelite's is composed of written (lost) and verbally communicated accounts that were undoubtedly contributed by diverse non Jewish/Israelite cultures spanning for thousands of years before the term Israelite ever appeared.
Israelite's are not recorded by other civilizations to be the inventors of monotheism, e.g. Egyptian dynasties already had brought up that concept around 500-1000 years before the old testament or other Jewish literature came up with this, or rather Israelite's claiming all this for themselves. Including to be Gods chosen ones.

ALL these Israeli claims are centered and anchored around a single book - written by themselves - respectively their ancestors.

So for whatever religion to claim - this is the only true book and has to be, since it was written by us - and therefore to lay any historic claims is simply ridiculous - one could also state - outrageous.

Also this Palestinian issue, has absolutely nothing to do with whatever findings someone compiled in regards to Arab agriculture of 1939.

There is enough abundant archeological evidence that the e.g. Canaanites - Jericho and multiple other sites, had build an advanced civilization (incl. irrigation systems) 2000 years and more before Israelite's arrived and ransacked the place in around 1200BC.

No argument with your last sentence. However, among the Canaanite's were the Jews.

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

Palestine by Nur Masalha Book Summary - Review (AudioBook)

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
No heads of state of your alleged state of Palestine in 1924? I didn’t think so. You just made it up.

Is deflection all you got?

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Palestine by Nur Masalha Book Summary - Review (AudioBook)

Nur is not a Middle East historian. This is why you’re so ill-informed.

MartyNYC · May 14, 2023

P F Tinmore said:
Is deflection all you got?

You claimed there was a state of Palestine in 1924–I asked for the names of the heads of state. You could not do so—Because no such state existed.

P F Tinmore · May 14, 2023

MartyNYC said:
There never was a state of Palestine. This is why you cannot identify any heads of this alleged state—it never existed. Palestine was merely Britain’s nickname for the British Mandate whose sole purpose was a Jewish state. British Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 with Israeli statehood.