The person I questioned answered the following and claimed he was a Christian.
How about we debate every single topic except abortion. That is a brick wall. We all know there is no straight speak in the Bible about abortion but there is TONS of straight talk in the Bible about how to treat your fellow humans. There is zero chance either one of us will change each others mind on Abortion. That road has been warn down. My wife and I have had multiple miscarries, I assure you I dont go around saying I am the father of 4 kids, 2 of which died between week 6-8 of conception.
The poster in question did not seem to want to talk about the topic, for obvious reasons. But then says that wife had miscarried and did not count them as human. So, I assume the message is that he does not consider the unborn real people.
The reason this was even brought up was that the poster in another thread questioned me claiming to be a Christian even though I don't support government run health care, as if I don't do not really care about the poor. I then brought up the fact that Nazi Germany also had government run health care for people of financial need, so would that cause me to support the Nazi movement while turning a blind eye to the issue of Jewish genocide?
Naturally, the person who said this divorces himself from the notion that the unborn are real human beings by saying this, thus ignoring the teachings of his own church on the subject, or perhaps his church teaches abortion is just fine now. But I doubt he will follow up and clarify.
But more and more I think that the person in question who said this is the norm rather than the exception. The Left has taken over all other institutions, such as education and government as they also champion the abortion issue as a natural right.
Interestingly enough, a man by the name of
Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a Christian in Nazi Germany and faced similar issues. You can even watch the movie here
Dietrich was faced with coming to church as the church proudly hoisted the nazi flag in the church, much like see the church proudly hoist the pride flag today in many churches, but it did not sit will with Dietrich. He then fought his church to stand up to the Nazi regime, and later gave his life for his work.
But the most troubling thing for any Christian to confront, is how did the Nazi regime flourish in a culture that was so heavily influenced by Christianity? The film helps shed some light onto this, but I have also read a book called "Hiter's Beneficiaries", written by the historian Gotz Aly
It was a fascinating look inside Nazi Germany. In it, you will learn such things as the people of Nazi Germany had the highest standard of living in the world, including government run health care. Why? It was because Hitler was terrified that the people of Germany would rise up against him like they did in WW1 due to the declining standard of living, so he created two huge pots of money, one for the miltary and the other for government run programs that were "free". Of course, nothing is free, as Hitler drove up the debt of the Gernam nation so high that he forbade his own government from posting a budget so as not to allow alarm. Hitler basically burned all the bridges of the nation as they went so far into debt to the point that it was either world conquest or economic ruin.
Essentially, Hitler bought their very souls, something that I think has happened all over the Western nations. Just give us free stuff and we will turn a blind eye to how you treat those that the government deems subhuman like how the Nazi viewed the Jew.
That is the chilling part.
