The ICE protests/riots are not about ICE

[Hafar1014]

How many of them were subjected to an unwanted and unwelcome invasion by a thug army?

You mean the tens of thousands of illegal thugs that rape rob kill molest children, drive drunk? Those thugs? Glad you brought that up

 

[yidnar]

ICE thugs don’t need to hide behind masks to enforce the rule of law. The fact that they have little regard for it has been amply demonstrated.

protesters are wearing masks and attacking ICE officers ..

 

[yidnar]

Actually they're protesting FOR the rule of law.
That ICE operate inside of the Constitution, and the laws of the United States. And NOT take extra-legal steps to arrest, detain and deport people, including American Citizens.

no American citizens have been detained .. ICE has detained and deported a much larger number in FL and TX with no violence .. that's due to the fact that the state and local gov are obeying the rule of law and are cooperating with fed officers ..

 

[meaner gene]

no American citizens have been detained .. ICE has detained and deported a much larger number in FL and TX with no violence .. that's due to the fact that the state and local gov are obeying the rule of law and are cooperating with fed officers ..

Actually you've stumbled onto the difference
It's not the states policy but the temperature.

Minnesota has sub zero temperatures, where it's hard for criminal illegals to function. So criminal illegals don't hang around Minneapolis.

On the other hand, the top states for criminal illegals is Texas, Florida and California, where they're used to the weather, and can commit crimes all year round.

When ICE has to arrest illegal aliens,m they can easily find the criminals in the warm states, where in Minneapolis criminal illegal numbers are as low as the temperatures.
So they mostly arrest non-criminals.

 

[petro]

one common denominator the protesters share is a hatred for capitalism ..

The irony being they worship those $1,000 dollar phones.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Protest for illegal immigrants?

Do you think things would be like this IF the government was obeying the U.S. Constitution and other laws?

When did being verbally abusive, excessively and physically brutal, allegedly in the enforcement of our laws, become commonplace?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Do you think things would be like this IF the government was obeying the U.S. Constitution and other laws?

When did being verbally abusive, excessively and physically brutal, allegedly in the enforcement of our laws, become commonplace?

Which Constitutional right are they not obeying?

 

[scruffy]

No, its a stupid fantasy, and it arises because you unprincipled, amoral dipshits simply cannot even fathom taking a second out of your day to do something for someone else, like protesting.

Dumbshit, why would I want to protest for murderers and rapists?

Only a shit for brains leftard could be so stupid.

 

[scruffy]

I just went out in town. ICE was everywhere. Left PJ home safe and warm, while I brought home the bacon, dragging all the food back to the cave, while she was in the kitchen baking fresh homemade cookies. Real Americana stuff, eh?

As long as you don't have to bring wheelbarrows of cash you're probably okay.

 

[scruffy]

Which Constitutional right are they not obeying?

They're not being charged with a crime.

They're simply being asked to leave.

 

[petro]

Biden appointed judge denies request to block ICE surge.

Federal judge denies request to block ICE surge in Minnesota

A judge said ICE activity could have "heartbreaking" effects but said the state hadn't proven its case.

www.bbc.com

she said, state officials "have provided no metric by which to determine when lawful law enforcement becomes unlawful commandeering"

 

[White 6]

As long as you don't have to bring wheelbarrows of cash you're probably okay.

I never carry much cash, as it is a hassle, plus I am usually carrying concealed, so not that worried of robbery by asshole punks, but this is Tennessee. On the interstate, you had best not be carrying large amounts of cash, even on the way to buy equipment on a cash deal, as civil forfeiture is real and practiced in TN, with state sharing and transferring money to Feds, so as to make it more difficult to even communicate or retrieve cash confiscated with no charges ever filed by any agency. They will absolutely steal your money, costing you a fortune in legal fees to retrieve, even when you find out who it was transferred to.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Which Constitutional right are they not obeying?

They (ICE) are targeting and harassing individuals who are exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances—in other words, to protest, speak out, or demand accountability.

One example: authorities often retaliate against those who record or livestream them. Despite attempts in some states to criminalize recording law enforcement, courts have repeatedly ruled that video recording public officials in public spaces is protected First Amendment activity. That hasn’t stopped some officers from responding with intimidation, violence, or false arrests. Whether through excessive force or threats of retaliation, the chilling effect on speech is the same.

Additionally, ICE ERO officers do not have legal authority over U.S. citizens. If they detain, search, or seize individuals without a warrant or probable cause, especially when targeting protesters or bystanders, they may also be violating Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

And when ICE agents use lethal force against U.S. citizens—people over whom they have no legal jurisdiction—it raises serious constitutional questions, including potential violations of the Fifth Amendments. No officer or agency has the power to act as judge, jury, and executioner. The Constitution guarantees that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law (.

This isn’t just about immigration policy. It’s about whether government agents are obeying the Constitution—especially when it comes to the rights of U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Deportation of Americans from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Deaths, detentions and deportations of American citizens in the second Trump administration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Massive list, NOT

Mistakes happen. I won't argue that.

Not throwing the baby out with the bath water.

But I am for throwing illegals out with anything and everything.

It's time to invade Mexico and challenge them to stop us.

 

[HikerGuy83]

They (ICE) are targeting and harassing individuals who are exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances—in other words, to protest, speak out, or demand accountability.

If you are talking about the two people who got killed, they injected themselves into active operations.

By thier own admission, if the MINN PD had been there, those people would be alive.

Big difference from what you claim in those two cases.

However, when ICE starts throwing rocks and eggs at citizens, I'll maybe think you know what you are talking about.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

If you are talking about the two people who got killed, they injected themselves into active operations.

By thier own admission, if the MINN PD had been there, those people would be alive.

Big difference from what you claim in those two cases.

However, when ICE starts throwing rocks and eggs at citizens, I'll maybe think you know what you are talking about.

I'm not talking about just the U.S. citizens killed in Minneapolis, I'm referring to the behavior of ICE agents anywhere and everywhere within the United States when they engage in the cited behavior.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I'm not talking about just the U.S. citizens killed in Minneapolis, I'm referring to the behavior of ICE agents anywhere and everywhere within the United States when they engage in the cited behavior.

I am always up for statistics.

If you have a few that need to be retrained or fired.....I get that.

What are the numbers.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

They're not being charged with a crime.

They're simply being asked to leave.

Being asked to leave is fine, that's what they're supposed to do.

And if the crowd doesn't comply then the agents are allowed to escalate to the use of more coerce measures. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about them tacking people to the ground, opening the doors of people in their vehicles and dragging them out and throwing them on the ground, group of agents dogpiling citizens, etc. THAT kind of behavior.

 

[sparky]

The Party for Socialism and Liberation

interesting that they see socialism as liberating......~S~

 

[scruffy]

interesting that they see socialism as liberating......~S~

Capitalism is better.