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The History of How American Liberals Became Double Agents against America


The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America


"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." –Joseph Stalin


"The goal of socialism is communism." –Lenin


Propaganda was used extensively by Communist forces in the Vietnam War as means of controlling people's opinions. Radio stations like Radio Hanoi were in an integral part of North Vietnamese propaganda operations. Communist Vietnamese politician Mai Chi Tho, commenting on the use of propaganda, stated:


"Ho Chi Minh may have been an evil man; Nixon may have been a great man. The Americans may have had the just cause; we may not have had the just cause. But we won and the Americans were defeated because we convinced the people that Ho Chi Minh is the great man, that Nixon is a murderer and the Americans are the invaders... The key factor is how to control people and their opinions. Only Marxism–Leninism can do that."


The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.


Eugene Victor "Gene" Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies), and five times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States. Through his presidential candidacies, as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United States.


In his speech to the convention, delivered June 8, Debs outlined his ideas on the goal of the Social Democracy and the tactics which the organization had best follow:


“The mission of Social Democracy is to awaken the producer to a consciousness that he is a Socialist and to give him courage by changing his conditions. I have not changed in regard to our procedure. Give me 10,000 men, aye, 1,000 in a western state, with access to the sources of production, and we will change the economic conditions and we will convince the people of that state, win their hearts and their intelligence. We will lay hold upon the reins of government, and plant the flag of Socialism on the state house."


Bernie hung a Soviet Flag in office when he was mayor. Bernie in Soviet Union, he honeymooned there. Bernie admits being a democrat socialist.


Why liberal Americans are not American patriots and want a new revolution like France?


The French Revolution of 1789, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote, "abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property". The French Revolution was preceded and influenced by the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose Social Contract famously began, "Man is born free, and he is everywhere in chains." Rousseau is credited with influencing socialist thought, but it was François-Noël Babeuf, and his Conspiracy of Equals, who is credited with providing a model for left-wing and communist movements of the 19th century.


Marx and Engels drew from these socialist or communist ideas born in the French revolution, as well as from the German philosophy of GWF Hegel, and English political economy, particularly that of Adam Smith and David Ricardo. Marx and Engels developed a body of ideas which they called scientific socialism, more commonly called Marxism. Marxism comprised a theory of history (historical materialism) as well as a political, economic and philosophical theory.


Marx believed that capitalism could only be overthrown by means of a revolution carried out by the working class: "The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority."


The term democratic socialism can be used even another way, to refer to a version of the Soviet model that was reformed in a democratic way. For example, Mikhail Gorbachev described perestroika as building a "new, humane and democratic socialism." Consequently, some former Communist parties have rebranded themselves as democratic socialist, as with the Party of Democratic Socialism in Germany.




How social liberalism became more popular than classical liberalism and turned into socialism?


Like classical liberalism, social liberalism endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights and liberties, but differs in that it believes the legitimate role of the government includes addressing economic and social issues such as poverty, health care, and education.


Under social liberalism, the good of the community is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.


The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social experiments associated primarily with British and French thinkers—especially Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Louis Blanc, and Saint-Simon. "Associationism" was a term used by early-19th-century followers of the utopian theories of such thinkers as Robert Owen, Claude Henri de Saint-Simon and Charles Fourier to describe their beliefs.


These social critics criticized the excesses of poverty and inequality of the Industrial Revolution, and advocated reforms such as the egalitarian distribution of wealth and the transformation of society into small communities in which private property was to be abolished. Outlining principles for the reorganization of society along collectivist lines, Saint-Simon and Owen sought to build socialism on the foundations of planned, utopian communities. According to Sheldon Richman, "n the 19th and early 20th centuries, 'socialism' did not exclusively mean collective or government ownership of the means or production but was an umbrella term for anyone who believed labor was cheated out of its natural product under historical capitalism."



Why does liberalism not want American patriotism and values?


As Alinsky put it: "A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution."


Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the late work of community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, and his last book, published in 1971 shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order to empower them to gain social, political, legal and economic equality by challenging the current agencies that promoted their inequality.


Rules for Radicals is dedicated by Saul Alinsky to the original radical, Lucifer - also known as Satan, the Devil, The Old Serpent, and The Dragon (Rev. 12:2; 20:2). In this book is found the following:


"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."


In the book, “After Alinsky,” written in 1990, Barack Obama was a contributor and wrote the chapter: “Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City.” While the rhetoric used by Obama was nothing as inflammatory as that used by Alinsky, one wonders whether some of his comments over Ferguson, Baltimore and other controversial issues were not influenced by Alinsky.


A 23-year-old Hillary Clinton was living in Berkeley, California, in the summer of 1971. She was interning at the left-wing law firm Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, known for its radical politics and a client roster that included Black Panthers and other militants.


On July 8, 1971, Clinton reached out to Alinsky, then 62, in a letter sent via airmail, paid for with stamps featuring Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and marked “Personal.”


“Dear Saul,” she began. “When is that new book [Rules for Radicals] coming out—or has it come and I somehow missed the fulfillment of Revelation?”


“I have just had my one-thousandth conversation about Reveille [for Radicals] and need some new material to throw at people,” she added, a reference to Alinsky’s 1946 book on his theories of community organizing.


Clinton devoted just one paragraph in her memoir Living History to Alinsky, writing that she rejected a job offer from him in 1969 in favor of going to law school. She wrote that she wanted to follow a more conventional path.



What are the objectives of liberalism?


A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.


Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model.


Bernie Sanders has Picked up the Wrong Lessons from the Nordic Model


Make no mistake, the classic weaknesses of socialism are playing out in as clear a way as you can possibly see them in Greece right now. Here they are: Greece ran out of other people's money. Greece's politicians made sweeping pension and benefit promises they could not keep. Greece expected to live in a fashion greater than the wealth it produced, etc. But I don't expect any bestselling books to be published in the coming year filled with anecdotes about socialist politicians who believed or didn't believe their own socialist lies. I don't expect Michael Moore or the big Hollywood studios to come out with movies about Greek pensioners making more in retirement than they did when they worked and then furiously threatening anyone who suggested they take some kind of cutback. And I can live with that because the best books and writings about the dangers and follies of socialism have probably already been written by Milton Friedman, Frederic Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises. And I doubt anyone could ever make better movies about the economic effects of socialism than Dr. Zhivago or Ninotchka. I'll live without the recognition of socialist mayhem from the entertainment media.


But the biggest problem with the rest of the media not identifying socialism as the culprit in this massive public failure goes beyond letting the guilty party go free. The real danger is that all the other nations and politicians currently pushing socialist programs on small and grand scales will not be slowed in the slightest by Greece's collapse. Dozens of U.S. states with unpayable pension obligations will continue moving along as usual. The federal government will continue to expand food stamp and medicaid rolls even as the economy improves. We're simply squandering the relatively free lesson we should be learning from someone else's massive socialist failure. We may not have changed much about our capital markets to help avoid a repeat of the 2008 crashes, but at least there was a very loud call for reform. Where's the call to fix the failed socialist model of the E.U. from a source other than American right wing talk radio?


That call is likely not going to come. Some kind of new deal will be worked out and the rest of the E.U. will try to generate enough wealth to placate the neverending welfare demands coming from its member countries. When it doesn't, this scenario will repeat itself over and over until a much more painful remedy for all of Europe and the world will take place. And it will all be because it's become too politically incorrect or burdensome to diagnose the clear cause of this economic malady.


Bernie Sanders has stated now, and in the past, that he would like to see an America with universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, expanded social security through higher payroll taxes, mandatory vacation days and sick leave, free secondary education, and the enactment of a slew of other progressive policies. It seems he has only forgotten to promise yachts for the homeless.


The underlying problem with socialists like Bernie Sanders is that they do not actually believe (or understand) in economics at all. As Ludwig von Mises himself has pointed out, socialism is not an economic theory — it is a theory of redistribution. Only free exchange can coordinate entrepreneurs and their resources in a way that creates actual goods and services that satisfy consumer needs and wants. Socialists like Bernie Sanders take no part in this process of wealth creation; they merely show up after the fact and demand title. Sweden has practiced this form of parasitic socialism on their accumulated wealth and it has significantly stifled Swedish productivity.


Nordic-style policies advocated by Sanders have (predictably) restricted Sweden’s growth for decades. The notion that we can implement Nordic socialism in a nation of 320 million people without destroying labor mobility, taxing capital out of existence, and absolutely crippling innovation where it’s needed most is pure delusion. Sweden is slowly returning to its productive capitalist roots. We should do the same.


Countries who adopted Democratic Socialism Non-Marxist–Leninist doing poorly compared to America, only Denmark is the only democratic socialism country doing well as the richest country above USA


These countries have social democracy but are ranked lower than USA, with USA ranked higher


Finland

Netherlands

Belgium

Norway (Cost of living is higher than America) Cost of Living in Norway


Cost of Living in Norway

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

WorldRichestCountries.com




Why do liberals want a socialist state?


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.


The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people


2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).


6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.


8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Things liberals push to drive fear in the world that are doctored up and sold as snake oil like a magical remedy in order to control the citizens through the government like England did with America in the Revolution. A reminder of George Orwell's "1984"



Dems are dependent on the government for free stuff, welfare, wage raise, health care.
 
A fine list of excuses to not take responsibility for you own failings.
 
The History of How American Liberals Became Double Agents against America


The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America


"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." –Joseph Stalin


"The goal of socialism is communism." –Lenin


Propaganda was used extensively by Communist forces in the Vietnam War as means of controlling people's opinions. Radio stations like Radio Hanoi were in an integral part of North Vietnamese propaganda operations. Communist Vietnamese politician Mai Chi Tho, commenting on the use of propaganda, stated:


"Ho Chi Minh may have been an evil man; Nixon may have been a great man. The Americans may have had the just cause; we may not have had the just cause. But we won and the Americans were defeated because we convinced the people that Ho Chi Minh is the great man, that Nixon is a murderer and the Americans are the invaders... The key factor is how to control people and their opinions. Only Marxism–Leninism can do that."


The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.


Eugene Victor "Gene" Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies), and five times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States. Through his presidential candidacies, as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United States.


In his speech to the convention, delivered June 8, Debs outlined his ideas on the goal of the Social Democracy and the tactics which the organization had best follow:


“The mission of Social Democracy is to awaken the producer to a consciousness that he is a Socialist and to give him courage by changing his conditions. I have not changed in regard to our procedure. Give me 10,000 men, aye, 1,000 in a western state, with access to the sources of production, and we will change the economic conditions and we will convince the people of that state, win their hearts and their intelligence. We will lay hold upon the reins of government, and plant the flag of Socialism on the state house."


Bernie hung a Soviet Flag in office when he was mayor. Bernie in Soviet Union, he honeymooned there. Bernie admits being a democrat socialist.


Why liberal Americans are not American patriots and want a new revolution like France?


The French Revolution of 1789, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote, "abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property". The French Revolution was preceded and influenced by the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose Social Contract famously began, "Man is born free, and he is everywhere in chains." Rousseau is credited with influencing socialist thought, but it was François-Noël Babeuf, and his Conspiracy of Equals, who is credited with providing a model for left-wing and communist movements of the 19th century.


Marx and Engels drew from these socialist or communist ideas born in the French revolution, as well as from the German philosophy of GWF Hegel, and English political economy, particularly that of Adam Smith and David Ricardo. Marx and Engels developed a body of ideas which they called scientific socialism, more commonly called Marxism. Marxism comprised a theory of history (historical materialism) as well as a political, economic and philosophical theory.


Marx believed that capitalism could only be overthrown by means of a revolution carried out by the working class: "The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority."


The term democratic socialism can be used even another way, to refer to a version of the Soviet model that was reformed in a democratic way. For example, Mikhail Gorbachev described perestroika as building a "new, humane and democratic socialism." Consequently, some former Communist parties have rebranded themselves as democratic socialist, as with the Party of Democratic Socialism in Germany.




How social liberalism became more popular than classical liberalism and turned into socialism?


Like classical liberalism, social liberalism endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights and liberties, but differs in that it believes the legitimate role of the government includes addressing economic and social issues such as poverty, health care, and education.


Under social liberalism, the good of the community is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.


The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social experiments associated primarily with British and French thinkers—especially Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Louis Blanc, and Saint-Simon. "Associationism" was a term used by early-19th-century followers of the utopian theories of such thinkers as Robert Owen, Claude Henri de Saint-Simon and Charles Fourier to describe their beliefs.


These social critics criticized the excesses of poverty and inequality of the Industrial Revolution, and advocated reforms such as the egalitarian distribution of wealth and the transformation of society into small communities in which private property was to be abolished. Outlining principles for the reorganization of society along collectivist lines, Saint-Simon and Owen sought to build socialism on the foundations of planned, utopian communities. According to Sheldon Richman, "n the 19th and early 20th centuries, 'socialism' did not exclusively mean collective or government ownership of the means or production but was an umbrella term for anyone who believed labor was cheated out of its natural product under historical capitalism."



Why does liberalism not want American patriotism and values?


As Alinsky put it: "A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution."


Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the late work of community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, and his last book, published in 1971 shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order to empower them to gain social, political, legal and economic equality by challenging the current agencies that promoted their inequality.


Rules for Radicals is dedicated by Saul Alinsky to the original radical, Lucifer - also known as Satan, the Devil, The Old Serpent, and The Dragon (Rev. 12:2; 20:2). In this book is found the following:


"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."


In the book, “After Alinsky,” written in 1990, Barack Obama was a contributor and wrote the chapter: “Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City.” While the rhetoric used by Obama was nothing as inflammatory as that used by Alinsky, one wonders whether some of his comments over Ferguson, Baltimore and other controversial issues were not influenced by Alinsky.


A 23-year-old Hillary Clinton was living in Berkeley, California, in the summer of 1971. She was interning at the left-wing law firm Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, known for its radical politics and a client roster that included Black Panthers and other militants.


On July 8, 1971, Clinton reached out to Alinsky, then 62, in a letter sent via airmail, paid for with stamps featuring Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and marked “Personal.”


“Dear Saul,” she began. “When is that new book [Rules for Radicals] coming out—or has it come and I somehow missed the fulfillment of Revelation?”


“I have just had my one-thousandth conversation about Reveille [for Radicals] and need some new material to throw at people,” she added, a reference to Alinsky’s 1946 book on his theories of community organizing.


Clinton devoted just one paragraph in her memoir Living History to Alinsky, writing that she rejected a job offer from him in 1969 in favor of going to law school. She wrote that she wanted to follow a more conventional path.



What are the objectives of liberalism?


A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.


Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model.


Bernie Sanders has Picked up the Wrong Lessons from the Nordic Model


Make no mistake, the classic weaknesses of socialism are playing out in as clear a way as you can possibly see them in Greece right now. Here they are: Greece ran out of other people's money. Greece's politicians made sweeping pension and benefit promises they could not keep. Greece expected to live in a fashion greater than the wealth it produced, etc. But I don't expect any bestselling books to be published in the coming year filled with anecdotes about socialist politicians who believed or didn't believe their own socialist lies. I don't expect Michael Moore or the big Hollywood studios to come out with movies about Greek pensioners making more in retirement than they did when they worked and then furiously threatening anyone who suggested they take some kind of cutback. And I can live with that because the best books and writings about the dangers and follies of socialism have probably already been written by Milton Friedman, Frederic Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises. And I doubt anyone could ever make better movies about the economic effects of socialism than Dr. Zhivago or Ninotchka. I'll live without the recognition of socialist mayhem from the entertainment media.


But the biggest problem with the rest of the media not identifying socialism as the culprit in this massive public failure goes beyond letting the guilty party go free. The real danger is that all the other nations and politicians currently pushing socialist programs on small and grand scales will not be slowed in the slightest by Greece's collapse. Dozens of U.S. states with unpayable pension obligations will continue moving along as usual. The federal government will continue to expand food stamp and medicaid rolls even as the economy improves. We're simply squandering the relatively free lesson we should be learning from someone else's massive socialist failure. We may not have changed much about our capital markets to help avoid a repeat of the 2008 crashes, but at least there was a very loud call for reform. Where's the call to fix the failed socialist model of the E.U. from a source other than American right wing talk radio?


That call is likely not going to come. Some kind of new deal will be worked out and the rest of the E.U. will try to generate enough wealth to placate the neverending welfare demands coming from its member countries. When it doesn't, this scenario will repeat itself over and over until a much more painful remedy for all of Europe and the world will take place. And it will all be because it's become too politically incorrect or burdensome to diagnose the clear cause of this economic malady.


Bernie Sanders has stated now, and in the past, that he would like to see an America with universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, expanded social security through higher payroll taxes, mandatory vacation days and sick leave, free secondary education, and the enactment of a slew of other progressive policies. It seems he has only forgotten to promise yachts for the homeless.


The underlying problem with socialists like Bernie Sanders is that they do not actually believe (or understand) in economics at all. As Ludwig von Mises himself has pointed out, socialism is not an economic theory — it is a theory of redistribution. Only free exchange can coordinate entrepreneurs and their resources in a way that creates actual goods and services that satisfy consumer needs and wants. Socialists like Bernie Sanders take no part in this process of wealth creation; they merely show up after the fact and demand title. Sweden has practiced this form of parasitic socialism on their accumulated wealth and it has significantly stifled Swedish productivity.


Nordic-style policies advocated by Sanders have (predictably) restricted Sweden’s growth for decades. The notion that we can implement Nordic socialism in a nation of 320 million people without destroying labor mobility, taxing capital out of existence, and absolutely crippling innovation where it’s needed most is pure delusion. Sweden is slowly returning to its productive capitalist roots. We should do the same.


Countries who adopted Democratic Socialism Non-Marxist–Leninist doing poorly compared to America, only Denmark is the only democratic socialism country doing well as the richest country above USA


These countries have social democracy but are ranked lower than USA, with USA ranked higher


Finland

Netherlands

Belgium

Norway (Cost of living is higher than America) Cost of Living in Norway


Cost of Living in Norway

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

WorldRichestCountries.com




Why do liberals want a socialist state?


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.


The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people


2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).


6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.


8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Things liberals push to drive fear in the world that are doctored up and sold as snake oil like a magical remedy in order to control the citizens through the government like England did with America in the Revolution. A reminder of George Orwell's "1984"



Dems are dependent on the government for free stuff, welfare, wage raise, health care.

And Republicans fawning over Putin and repeating Russian Anti-US propaganda almost verbatim would be....what exactly?
 
It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.
 
Yes everyone should work in a factory for $15per hour. Pathetic wage that is. Can't survive on that.
 
"The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America"

This fails as a straw man fallacy, a ridiculous lie, devoid of fact or merit.

That anyone actually believes such rot is indeed amazing.
 
The History of How American Liberals Became Double Agents against America


The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America


"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." –Joseph Stalin


"The goal of socialism is communism." –Lenin


Propaganda was used extensively by Communist forces in the Vietnam War as means of controlling people's opinions. Radio stations like Radio Hanoi were in an integral part of North Vietnamese propaganda operations. Communist Vietnamese politician Mai Chi Tho, commenting on the use of propaganda, stated:


"Ho Chi Minh may have been an evil man; Nixon may have been a great man. The Americans may have had the just cause; we may not have had the just cause. But we won and the Americans were defeated because we convinced the people that Ho Chi Minh is the great man, that Nixon is a murderer and the Americans are the invaders... The key factor is how to control people and their opinions. Only Marxism–Leninism can do that."


The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.


Eugene Victor "Gene" Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies), and five times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States. Through his presidential candidacies, as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United States.


In his speech to the convention, delivered June 8, Debs outlined his ideas on the goal of the Social Democracy and the tactics which the organization had best follow:


“The mission of Social Democracy is to awaken the producer to a consciousness that he is a Socialist and to give him courage by changing his conditions. I have not changed in regard to our procedure. Give me 10,000 men, aye, 1,000 in a western state, with access to the sources of production, and we will change the economic conditions and we will convince the people of that state, win their hearts and their intelligence. We will lay hold upon the reins of government, and plant the flag of Socialism on the state house."


Bernie hung a Soviet Flag in office when he was mayor. Bernie in Soviet Union, he honeymooned there. Bernie admits being a democrat socialist.


Why liberal Americans are not American patriots and want a new revolution like France?


The French Revolution of 1789, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote, "abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property". The French Revolution was preceded and influenced by the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose Social Contract famously began, "Man is born free, and he is everywhere in chains." Rousseau is credited with influencing socialist thought, but it was François-Noël Babeuf, and his Conspiracy of Equals, who is credited with providing a model for left-wing and communist movements of the 19th century.


Marx and Engels drew from these socialist or communist ideas born in the French revolution, as well as from the German philosophy of GWF Hegel, and English political economy, particularly that of Adam Smith and David Ricardo. Marx and Engels developed a body of ideas which they called scientific socialism, more commonly called Marxism. Marxism comprised a theory of history (historical materialism) as well as a political, economic and philosophical theory.


Marx believed that capitalism could only be overthrown by means of a revolution carried out by the working class: "The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority."


The term democratic socialism can be used even another way, to refer to a version of the Soviet model that was reformed in a democratic way. For example, Mikhail Gorbachev described perestroika as building a "new, humane and democratic socialism." Consequently, some former Communist parties have rebranded themselves as democratic socialist, as with the Party of Democratic Socialism in Germany.




How social liberalism became more popular than classical liberalism and turned into socialism?


Like classical liberalism, social liberalism endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights and liberties, but differs in that it believes the legitimate role of the government includes addressing economic and social issues such as poverty, health care, and education.


Under social liberalism, the good of the community is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.


The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social experiments associated primarily with British and French thinkers—especially Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Louis Blanc, and Saint-Simon. "Associationism" was a term used by early-19th-century followers of the utopian theories of such thinkers as Robert Owen, Claude Henri de Saint-Simon and Charles Fourier to describe their beliefs.


These social critics criticized the excesses of poverty and inequality of the Industrial Revolution, and advocated reforms such as the egalitarian distribution of wealth and the transformation of society into small communities in which private property was to be abolished. Outlining principles for the reorganization of society along collectivist lines, Saint-Simon and Owen sought to build socialism on the foundations of planned, utopian communities. According to Sheldon Richman, "n the 19th and early 20th centuries, 'socialism' did not exclusively mean collective or government ownership of the means or production but was an umbrella term for anyone who believed labor was cheated out of its natural product under historical capitalism."



Why does liberalism not want American patriotism and values?


As Alinsky put it: "A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution."


Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the late work of community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, and his last book, published in 1971 shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order to empower them to gain social, political, legal and economic equality by challenging the current agencies that promoted their inequality.


Rules for Radicals is dedicated by Saul Alinsky to the original radical, Lucifer - also known as Satan, the Devil, The Old Serpent, and The Dragon (Rev. 12:2; 20:2). In this book is found the following:


"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."


In the book, “After Alinsky,” written in 1990, Barack Obama was a contributor and wrote the chapter: “Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City.” While the rhetoric used by Obama was nothing as inflammatory as that used by Alinsky, one wonders whether some of his comments over Ferguson, Baltimore and other controversial issues were not influenced by Alinsky.


A 23-year-old Hillary Clinton was living in Berkeley, California, in the summer of 1971. She was interning at the left-wing law firm Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, known for its radical politics and a client roster that included Black Panthers and other militants.


On July 8, 1971, Clinton reached out to Alinsky, then 62, in a letter sent via airmail, paid for with stamps featuring Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and marked “Personal.”


“Dear Saul,” she began. “When is that new book [Rules for Radicals] coming out—or has it come and I somehow missed the fulfillment of Revelation?”


“I have just had my one-thousandth conversation about Reveille [for Radicals] and need some new material to throw at people,” she added, a reference to Alinsky’s 1946 book on his theories of community organizing.


Clinton devoted just one paragraph in her memoir Living History to Alinsky, writing that she rejected a job offer from him in 1969 in favor of going to law school. She wrote that she wanted to follow a more conventional path.



What are the objectives of liberalism?


A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.


Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model.


Bernie Sanders has Picked up the Wrong Lessons from the Nordic Model


Make no mistake, the classic weaknesses of socialism are playing out in as clear a way as you can possibly see them in Greece right now. Here they are: Greece ran out of other people's money. Greece's politicians made sweeping pension and benefit promises they could not keep. Greece expected to live in a fashion greater than the wealth it produced, etc. But I don't expect any bestselling books to be published in the coming year filled with anecdotes about socialist politicians who believed or didn't believe their own socialist lies. I don't expect Michael Moore or the big Hollywood studios to come out with movies about Greek pensioners making more in retirement than they did when they worked and then furiously threatening anyone who suggested they take some kind of cutback. And I can live with that because the best books and writings about the dangers and follies of socialism have probably already been written by Milton Friedman, Frederic Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises. And I doubt anyone could ever make better movies about the economic effects of socialism than Dr. Zhivago or Ninotchka. I'll live without the recognition of socialist mayhem from the entertainment media.


But the biggest problem with the rest of the media not identifying socialism as the culprit in this massive public failure goes beyond letting the guilty party go free. The real danger is that all the other nations and politicians currently pushing socialist programs on small and grand scales will not be slowed in the slightest by Greece's collapse. Dozens of U.S. states with unpayable pension obligations will continue moving along as usual. The federal government will continue to expand food stamp and medicaid rolls even as the economy improves. We're simply squandering the relatively free lesson we should be learning from someone else's massive socialist failure. We may not have changed much about our capital markets to help avoid a repeat of the 2008 crashes, but at least there was a very loud call for reform. Where's the call to fix the failed socialist model of the E.U. from a source other than American right wing talk radio?


That call is likely not going to come. Some kind of new deal will be worked out and the rest of the E.U. will try to generate enough wealth to placate the neverending welfare demands coming from its member countries. When it doesn't, this scenario will repeat itself over and over until a much more painful remedy for all of Europe and the world will take place. And it will all be because it's become too politically incorrect or burdensome to diagnose the clear cause of this economic malady.


Bernie Sanders has stated now, and in the past, that he would like to see an America with universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, expanded social security through higher payroll taxes, mandatory vacation days and sick leave, free secondary education, and the enactment of a slew of other progressive policies. It seems he has only forgotten to promise yachts for the homeless.


The underlying problem with socialists like Bernie Sanders is that they do not actually believe (or understand) in economics at all. As Ludwig von Mises himself has pointed out, socialism is not an economic theory — it is a theory of redistribution. Only free exchange can coordinate entrepreneurs and their resources in a way that creates actual goods and services that satisfy consumer needs and wants. Socialists like Bernie Sanders take no part in this process of wealth creation; they merely show up after the fact and demand title. Sweden has practiced this form of parasitic socialism on their accumulated wealth and it has significantly stifled Swedish productivity.


Nordic-style policies advocated by Sanders have (predictably) restricted Sweden’s growth for decades. The notion that we can implement Nordic socialism in a nation of 320 million people without destroying labor mobility, taxing capital out of existence, and absolutely crippling innovation where it’s needed most is pure delusion. Sweden is slowly returning to its productive capitalist roots. We should do the same.


Countries who adopted Democratic Socialism Non-Marxist–Leninist doing poorly compared to America, only Denmark is the only democratic socialism country doing well as the richest country above USA


These countries have social democracy but are ranked lower than USA, with USA ranked higher


Finland

Netherlands

Belgium

Norway (Cost of living is higher than America) Cost of Living in Norway


Cost of Living in Norway

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

WorldRichestCountries.com




Why do liberals want a socialist state?


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.


The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people


2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).


6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.


8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Things liberals push to drive fear in the world that are doctored up and sold as snake oil like a magical remedy in order to control the citizens through the government like England did with America in the Revolution. A reminder of George Orwell's "1984"



Dems are dependent on the government for free stuff, welfare, wage raise, health care.
Bullshit after bullshit and then the proof is the cost of living in Norway?
 
The History of How American Liberals Became Double Agents against America


The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America


"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." –Joseph Stalin


"The goal of socialism is communism." –Lenin


Propaganda was used extensively by Communist forces in the Vietnam War as means of controlling people's opinions. Radio stations like Radio Hanoi were in an integral part of North Vietnamese propaganda operations. Communist Vietnamese politician Mai Chi Tho, commenting on the use of propaganda, stated:


"Ho Chi Minh may have been an evil man; Nixon may have been a great man. The Americans may have had the just cause; we may not have had the just cause. But we won and the Americans were defeated because we convinced the people that Ho Chi Minh is the great man, that Nixon is a murderer and the Americans are the invaders... The key factor is how to control people and their opinions. Only Marxism–Leninism can do that."


The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.


Eugene Victor "Gene" Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or the Wobblies), and five times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States. Through his presidential candidacies, as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United States.


In his speech to the convention, delivered June 8, Debs outlined his ideas on the goal of the Social Democracy and the tactics which the organization had best follow:


“The mission of Social Democracy is to awaken the producer to a consciousness that he is a Socialist and to give him courage by changing his conditions. I have not changed in regard to our procedure. Give me 10,000 men, aye, 1,000 in a western state, with access to the sources of production, and we will change the economic conditions and we will convince the people of that state, win their hearts and their intelligence. We will lay hold upon the reins of government, and plant the flag of Socialism on the state house."


Bernie hung a Soviet Flag in office when he was mayor. Bernie in Soviet Union, he honeymooned there. Bernie admits being a democrat socialist.


Why liberal Americans are not American patriots and want a new revolution like France?


The French Revolution of 1789, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote, "abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property". The French Revolution was preceded and influenced by the works of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose Social Contract famously began, "Man is born free, and he is everywhere in chains." Rousseau is credited with influencing socialist thought, but it was François-Noël Babeuf, and his Conspiracy of Equals, who is credited with providing a model for left-wing and communist movements of the 19th century.


Marx and Engels drew from these socialist or communist ideas born in the French revolution, as well as from the German philosophy of GWF Hegel, and English political economy, particularly that of Adam Smith and David Ricardo. Marx and Engels developed a body of ideas which they called scientific socialism, more commonly called Marxism. Marxism comprised a theory of history (historical materialism) as well as a political, economic and philosophical theory.


Marx believed that capitalism could only be overthrown by means of a revolution carried out by the working class: "The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority."


The term democratic socialism can be used even another way, to refer to a version of the Soviet model that was reformed in a democratic way. For example, Mikhail Gorbachev described perestroika as building a "new, humane and democratic socialism." Consequently, some former Communist parties have rebranded themselves as democratic socialist, as with the Party of Democratic Socialism in Germany.




How social liberalism became more popular than classical liberalism and turned into socialism?


Like classical liberalism, social liberalism endorses a market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights and liberties, but differs in that it believes the legitimate role of the government includes addressing economic and social issues such as poverty, health care, and education.


Under social liberalism, the good of the community is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.


The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social experiments associated primarily with British and French thinkers—especially Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Louis Blanc, and Saint-Simon. "Associationism" was a term used by early-19th-century followers of the utopian theories of such thinkers as Robert Owen, Claude Henri de Saint-Simon and Charles Fourier to describe their beliefs.


These social critics criticized the excesses of poverty and inequality of the Industrial Revolution, and advocated reforms such as the egalitarian distribution of wealth and the transformation of society into small communities in which private property was to be abolished. Outlining principles for the reorganization of society along collectivist lines, Saint-Simon and Owen sought to build socialism on the foundations of planned, utopian communities. According to Sheldon Richman, "n the 19th and early 20th centuries, 'socialism' did not exclusively mean collective or government ownership of the means or production but was an umbrella term for anyone who believed labor was cheated out of its natural product under historical capitalism."



Why does liberalism not want American patriotism and values?


As Alinsky put it: "A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution."


Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the late work of community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, and his last book, published in 1971 shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order to empower them to gain social, political, legal and economic equality by challenging the current agencies that promoted their inequality.


Rules for Radicals is dedicated by Saul Alinsky to the original radical, Lucifer - also known as Satan, the Devil, The Old Serpent, and The Dragon (Rev. 12:2; 20:2). In this book is found the following:


"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."


In the book, “After Alinsky,” written in 1990, Barack Obama was a contributor and wrote the chapter: “Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City.” While the rhetoric used by Obama was nothing as inflammatory as that used by Alinsky, one wonders whether some of his comments over Ferguson, Baltimore and other controversial issues were not influenced by Alinsky.


A 23-year-old Hillary Clinton was living in Berkeley, California, in the summer of 1971. She was interning at the left-wing law firm Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, known for its radical politics and a client roster that included Black Panthers and other militants.


On July 8, 1971, Clinton reached out to Alinsky, then 62, in a letter sent via airmail, paid for with stamps featuring Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and marked “Personal.”


“Dear Saul,” she began. “When is that new book [Rules for Radicals] coming out—or has it come and I somehow missed the fulfillment of Revelation?”


“I have just had my one-thousandth conversation about Reveille [for Radicals] and need some new material to throw at people,” she added, a reference to Alinsky’s 1946 book on his theories of community organizing.


Clinton devoted just one paragraph in her memoir Living History to Alinsky, writing that she rejected a job offer from him in 1969 in favor of going to law school. She wrote that she wanted to follow a more conventional path.



What are the objectives of liberalism?


A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.


Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model.


Bernie Sanders has Picked up the Wrong Lessons from the Nordic Model


Make no mistake, the classic weaknesses of socialism are playing out in as clear a way as you can possibly see them in Greece right now. Here they are: Greece ran out of other people's money. Greece's politicians made sweeping pension and benefit promises they could not keep. Greece expected to live in a fashion greater than the wealth it produced, etc. But I don't expect any bestselling books to be published in the coming year filled with anecdotes about socialist politicians who believed or didn't believe their own socialist lies. I don't expect Michael Moore or the big Hollywood studios to come out with movies about Greek pensioners making more in retirement than they did when they worked and then furiously threatening anyone who suggested they take some kind of cutback. And I can live with that because the best books and writings about the dangers and follies of socialism have probably already been written by Milton Friedman, Frederic Bastiat and Ludwig von Mises. And I doubt anyone could ever make better movies about the economic effects of socialism than Dr. Zhivago or Ninotchka. I'll live without the recognition of socialist mayhem from the entertainment media.


But the biggest problem with the rest of the media not identifying socialism as the culprit in this massive public failure goes beyond letting the guilty party go free. The real danger is that all the other nations and politicians currently pushing socialist programs on small and grand scales will not be slowed in the slightest by Greece's collapse. Dozens of U.S. states with unpayable pension obligations will continue moving along as usual. The federal government will continue to expand food stamp and medicaid rolls even as the economy improves. We're simply squandering the relatively free lesson we should be learning from someone else's massive socialist failure. We may not have changed much about our capital markets to help avoid a repeat of the 2008 crashes, but at least there was a very loud call for reform. Where's the call to fix the failed socialist model of the E.U. from a source other than American right wing talk radio?


That call is likely not going to come. Some kind of new deal will be worked out and the rest of the E.U. will try to generate enough wealth to placate the neverending welfare demands coming from its member countries. When it doesn't, this scenario will repeat itself over and over until a much more painful remedy for all of Europe and the world will take place. And it will all be because it's become too politically incorrect or burdensome to diagnose the clear cause of this economic malady.


Bernie Sanders has stated now, and in the past, that he would like to see an America with universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, expanded social security through higher payroll taxes, mandatory vacation days and sick leave, free secondary education, and the enactment of a slew of other progressive policies. It seems he has only forgotten to promise yachts for the homeless.


The underlying problem with socialists like Bernie Sanders is that they do not actually believe (or understand) in economics at all. As Ludwig von Mises himself has pointed out, socialism is not an economic theory — it is a theory of redistribution. Only free exchange can coordinate entrepreneurs and their resources in a way that creates actual goods and services that satisfy consumer needs and wants. Socialists like Bernie Sanders take no part in this process of wealth creation; they merely show up after the fact and demand title. Sweden has practiced this form of parasitic socialism on their accumulated wealth and it has significantly stifled Swedish productivity.


Nordic-style policies advocated by Sanders have (predictably) restricted Sweden’s growth for decades. The notion that we can implement Nordic socialism in a nation of 320 million people without destroying labor mobility, taxing capital out of existence, and absolutely crippling innovation where it’s needed most is pure delusion. Sweden is slowly returning to its productive capitalist roots. We should do the same.


Countries who adopted Democratic Socialism Non-Marxist–Leninist doing poorly compared to America, only Denmark is the only democratic socialism country doing well as the richest country above USA


These countries have social democracy but are ranked lower than USA, with USA ranked higher


Finland

Netherlands

Belgium

Norway (Cost of living is higher than America) Cost of Living in Norway


Cost of Living in Norway

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

WorldRichestCountries.com




Why do liberals want a socialist state?


How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:


There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.


The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people


2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.


3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.


4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.


5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).


6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.


7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.


8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Things liberals push to drive fear in the world that are doctored up and sold as snake oil like a magical remedy in order to control the citizens through the government like England did with America in the Revolution. A reminder of George Orwell's "1984"



Dems are dependent on the government for free stuff, welfare, wage raise, health care.
Bullshit after bullshit and then the proof is the cost of living in Norway?
Its very reasonable in comparison to the income.
 
"The Liberal Agenda for Changing United States of America to the Socialist State of America"

This fails as a straw man fallacy, a ridiculous lie, devoid of fact or merit.

That anyone actually believes such rot is indeed amazing.

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Liberals Defense Tactic:

Deny everything

Admit nothing

Call it Right Wing Propaganda

What does it matter? (quote from Hillary Benghazi hearing)

Role eyes

smh

Call BS real quick

Fake it

Pretend not to hear it

Fake like you didn't understand


Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals


* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.


* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

Show a liberal hard evidence, liberals say its inadmissible, bring a liberal witnesses and the criminal's testimony confession, liberals say it was false witnesses and a forced confession, the jury finds the criminal guilty on 12 charges, the libs say the criminal didn't commit one crime. Democrats love defending their politician criminals like Bill Clinton, Killer Mike, Hillary, ISIS, Ted Kennedy, Southern Democrat Ku Klux Klan harassing and hanging blacks in the South for voting Republican and still blacks harassed today by bigots for being an Uncle Tom for voting Republican. No wonder libs condone their criminal behavior, they're the Mafia!


Liberals are always in denial like an abused wife that deflect the facts and switch over to emotional reasoning to justify the abuse. Excuses are like assssholes, everybody has one. Show a liberal the truth, liberals say it's not true, then show liberals the source, then liberals justify it with it's not that bad nobody is perfect, until liberals point out conservatives flaws.

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It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.

Right, so you stoop down to Bernie Madoff greedy level because of a few bad apples and play the socialist vigilante card. Make the rich pay for all of their sins Dexter Morgan. You become a serial thief bully making the innocent pay because you agreed to work for that salary and knew the risk of companies laying off, going out of business, folding and bankrupting, that's life, welcome to the real world. Firemen don't say, well I didn't know I would get burnt for such a pay. If its unfair, then like you tell the abused woman, leave, but you say its easier said than done. A regular witch hunt, bitter against the rich, then justify it by spinning it into socialism. If it looks like a duck, quack likes a duck, then its socialism, all the same. Socialism is theft by a different name and the lib gov. is the bully forcing totalitarian 1984.
 
England has had some semblance of a welfare state for over 400 years. Seems like a success to me.
 
It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.

Right, so you stoop down to Bernie Madoff greedy level because of a few bad apples and play the socialist vigilante card. Make the rich pay for all of their sins Dexter Morgan. You become a serial thief bully making the innocent pay because you agreed to work for that salary and knew the risk of companies laying off, going out of business, folding and bankrupting, that's life, welcome to the real world. Firemen don't say, well I didn't know I would get burnt for such a pay. If its unfair, then like you tell the abused woman, leave, but you say its easier said than done. A regular witch hunt, bitter against the rich, then justify it by spinning it into socialism. If it looks like a duck, quack likes a duck, then its socialism, all the same. Socialism is theft by a different name and the lib gov. is the bully forcing totalitarian 1984.
You are comparing the 1% to a battered women now?

:lmao:

I can imagine the support groups. "And after all that, i still didnt have the courage to leave him"

poor victimized 1% :itsok:
 
It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.

Right, so you stoop down to Bernie Madoff greedy level because of a few bad apples and play the socialist vigilante card. Make the rich pay for all of their sins Dexter Morgan. You become a serial thief bully making the innocent pay because you agreed to work for that salary and knew the risk of companies laying off, going out of business, folding and bankrupting, that's life, welcome to the real world. Firemen don't say, well I didn't know I would get burnt for such a pay. If its unfair, then like you tell the abused woman, leave, but you say its easier said than done. A regular witch hunt, bitter against the rich, then justify it by spinning it into socialism. If it looks like a duck, quack likes a duck, then its socialism, all the same. Socialism is theft by a different name and the lib gov. is the bully forcing totalitarian 1984.

Good expose' of what is really going on . You are going to have every lefty under the sun attacking you on here, as you just managed to conclusively link the left, and Saul Alinsky. They will never let that stand, and we both know it. But I say, keep tying the whole rotten mess together, because accurate information has always been the lefts worst enemy!
 
It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.

Right, so you stoop down to Bernie Madoff greedy level because of a few bad apples and play the socialist vigilante card. Make the rich pay for all of their sins Dexter Morgan. You become a serial thief bully making the innocent pay because you agreed to work for that salary and knew the risk of companies laying off, going out of business, folding and bankrupting, that's life, welcome to the real world. Firemen don't say, well I didn't know I would get burnt for such a pay. If its unfair, then like you tell the abused woman, leave, but you say its easier said than done. A regular witch hunt, bitter against the rich, then justify it by spinning it into socialism. If it looks like a duck, quack likes a duck, then its socialism, all the same. Socialism is theft by a different name and the lib gov. is the bully forcing totalitarian 1984.

Good expose' of what is really going on . You are going to have every lefty under the sun attacking you on here, as you just managed to conclusively link the left, and Saul Alinsky. They will never let that stand, and we both know it. But I say, keep tying the whole rotten mess together, because accurate information has always been the lefts worst enemy!

Yeah, Hillary wrote to Saul "Hopefully we can have a good argument sometime in the future." I guess they weren't on the same page.
 
It's not socialism which uses up other people's money, but the debt system. Greece was fine until the 90's loan push.

Right, so you stoop down to Bernie Madoff greedy level because of a few bad apples and play the socialist vigilante card. Make the rich pay for all of their sins Dexter Morgan. You become a serial thief bully making the innocent pay because you agreed to work for that salary and knew the risk of companies laying off, going out of business, folding and bankrupting, that's life, welcome to the real world. Firemen don't say, well I didn't know I would get burnt for such a pay. If its unfair, then like you tell the abused woman, leave, but you say its easier said than done. A regular witch hunt, bitter against the rich, then justify it by spinning it into socialism. If it looks like a duck, quack likes a duck, then its socialism, all the same. Socialism is theft by a different name and the lib gov. is the bully forcing totalitarian 1984.

Good expose' of what is really going on . You are going to have every lefty under the sun attacking you on here, as you just managed to conclusively link the left, and Saul Alinsky. They will never let that stand, and we both know it. But I say, keep tying the whole rotten mess together, because accurate information has always been the lefts worst enemy!

Notice how liberals call these facts and figures fabricated and propaganda when I pulled these sources from their own liberal media, then these HYPOCRITES get upset when its used against them because it comes back to bite them in the ASS! So they deny it just like their liberal Clinton's denied having multiple affairs, whitewater scandal, covering up email top secret documents, which they fabricated and got away with. The libs always defend their lies, but will never expose their own kind. A bunch of brainwashing Jehovah Witnesses of politics, always preaching against the rich, corporations, free capitalism as evildoers to get punished and set straight, recruiting hate monger’s to join their socialist cause. Self-righteous communist on a witch hunt for the wicked capitalist , desperate tactics to get people to join their cult, just throw in free welfare for a vote.
 

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