The Hard Reality of a Debt Ceiling Showdown: Jim Jordan eviscerates Biden for not negotiating with House Republicans

[Dragonlady]

You lied about how much of the Federal budget was spent on Defense.

You stupid Libtards have no shame, do you?

It's not that liberals have no shame, it's that cons have no brains. Discretionary spending 9.1% I never gave you any figures on defense spending at all, stupid. Stop trying to pretend you're not an idiot. You'll fail every single time.

 

[jc456]

I'm not trying to "change your mind". You'd have to have one, before you could change it. I'm just pointing out the stupidity and ignorance of your arguments.

What’s that got to do with what I said about Jim Jordan?

I know you need a sound board to spew your hate

 

[Dragonlady]

What’s that got to do with what I said about Jim Jordan?

I know you need a sound board to spew your hate

You keep pretending Jordon isn’t making a massive fool of himself every time he gets behind the microphone.

 

[jc456]

You keep pretending Jordon isn’t making a massive fool of himself every time he gets behind the microphone.

He isn’t! I truly don’t care about your opinions

 

[Independentthinker]

The Biden administration and House Republicans are heading toward an initial Thursday debt ceiling deadline without even a hint of an endgame, ensuring a months-long standoff that’s poised to rattle financial markets amid worries about a recession this year.

The two sides are effectively shrugging as the Treasury Department warns the country will hit the $31.4 trillion borrowing cap Thursday — though it’s not a hard deadline, as the department can still use extraordinary measures to pay the bills for another few months. But it means the potential economic doomsday clock is officially ticking, with House Republicans still insisting on massive spending cuts before they help raise the debt ceiling and Democrats refusing to engage the idea.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said last week that the U.S. likely won’t run out of cash or exhaust those measures until at least early June. Until then, the department is suspending investments in certain government retirement funds and hoping the House GOP and Democrats can come to an agreement to keep the government from careening into an economic crisis with far-reaching consequences.

But Yellen’s warning to congressional leaders hasn’t spurred any movement toward even the beginning of a deal between Congress and the White House. The biggest legislative battle of the year is just beginning — and threatening to grow even messier than the 15-ballot speakership fight — and there’s no exit strategy in sight.
Even some Republicans viewed as more likely to negotiate with the White House are already taking aim at the administration’s position after White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said last week: “We will not be doing any negotiation.”

The White House is already working behind the scenes to work around Speaker Kevin McCarthy, including dispatching its top advisers to meet with moderate Republicans — particularly those who won in districts President Joe Biden won in 2020 — in hopes Democrats can count on those GOP lawmakers to cross the aisle and lift the debt ceiling.

Concessions over the debt ceiling were a vital part of the deal that McCarthy negotiated with his 20 conservative holdouts to finally attain the speakership. He agreed that the GOP House wouldn’t move to lift the debt ceiling unless Congress slashes at least $130 billion in federal spending next fiscal year or addresses broader fiscal reforms that tackle the ballooning debt, as many Republicans argue it threatens the nation’s economic security and future.

Some GOP members are beginning to float more specific plans as the debt-ceiling fight gets officially underway, like the return of a controversial payment prioritization plan that former Sen. Pat Toomey’s (R-Pa.) proposed during a similar showdown about a decade ago. Such a plan would allow the government to keep paying its bondholders if both parties can’t reach an agreement, while dictating what other financial obligations would lapse.

Meanwhile, the primary concern for financial markets is whether the debt ceiling brawl forces the U.S. to miss a payment owed to Treasury bondholders. Treasuries — usually seen as extremely safe assets — underpin the global financial system and are closely tied to lending products like mortgages. Missing a payment could send the stock market off a cliff, though Wall Street analysts are split about how much of a threat the standoff actually poses to the economy, with some banking on Congress and the White House reaching some sort of deal before the federal government misses any debt payments.

Some of the Republicans pushing the payment prioritization plan, first reported by the Washington Post, include Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), one of the 20 holdouts. He told the Post: “We agreed to advance a debt prioritization bill through regular order by the end of the first quarter of 2023 … Now, the contours of that were not specified (there are different versions).”

The hotly debated idea divides Republicans and budget experts alike, and the administration has already swatted it down. White House chief of staff Ron Klain tweeted that it would sow “CHAOS” in the U.S. and “cut off funding” for food safety, FAA operations, border security and drug enforcement.

It’s unclear what capability the Treasury Department has to prioritize payments, with officials declining to comment last week on whether it’s even an option. A top Treasury official stressed in a December speech that debt limit stalemates hurt the department’s cash balance and trigger market volatility. Treasury officials told House Republicans in 2014 that while the government could technically prioritize payments, such a plan would be “entirely experimental and create unacceptable risk to both domestic and global financial markets.”

Payment plan aside, the debt ceiling is a critical political battle for the House GOP. With McCarthy commanding only a narrow majority that can move to topple him at any time, even lawmakers who count him as a friend predict the showdown won’t end well for him. It will "cost Kevin his job" predicted independent senator Kyrsten Sinema.

While I think Biden should agree to talk about cutting spending somewhere, somehow, he isn't going to because whenever we have shut down the government, Republicans always get blamed so Biden is counting on that if Republicans refuse to increase the debt limit. He thinks Republicans will be the ones damaged politically so he's willing to do that.

 

[jc456]

While I think Biden should agree to talk about cutting spending somewhere, somehow, he isn't going to because whenever we have shut down the government, Republicans always get blamed so Biden is counting on that if Republicans refuse to increase the debt limit. He thinks Republicans will be the ones damaged politically so he's willing to do that.

Xiden has no vote.

 

[Hector12]

Congressional Republicans have decided that they will benefit from the economic chaos resulting from defaulting on the debt, and I agree with them. Catastrophes benefit the party that does not have the White House.

The Great Depression benefited the Democrats. The stagflation of the late 1970's benefited the Republicans.

The people who will be able to ride out the chaos will be rich people with no debts who receive no money from the government. Those are the only people Republican politicians really care about.

Trump is already ahead of Biden in the polls, despite being convicted of sex abuse. After a year and a half of economic collapse following defaulting on the debt the four years Trump was president will seem like a golden age.

 

[wamose]

All you need to know is that Biden won't budge on hiring 87,000 more IRS agents or on forcing the America taxpayer to pay for student loan deadbeats. That's foolish spending. The IRS agents are needed as they will be unleashed on the American middle class to find new tax revenue to partially pay for their insane new spending. This proposed budget puts the American taxpayer squarely in the Democrat's crosshairs.

 

[jc456]

Congressional Republicans have decided that they will benefit from the economic chaos resulting from defaulting on the debt, and I agree with them. Catastrophes benefit the party that does not have the White House.

The Great Depression benefited the Democrats. The stagflation of the late 1970's benefited the Republicans.

The people who will be able to ride out the chaos will be rich people with no debts who receive no money from the government. Those are the only people Republican politicians really care about.

Trump is already ahead of Biden in the polls, despite being convicted of sex abuse. After a year and a half of economic collapse following defaulting on the debt the four years Trump was president will seem like a golden age.

so only xiden gets a say and not us? hahahahahahhahaahahahaha dude you've been penetrated badly.

You behave irrationally.

 

[The5thHorseman]

The Biden administration and House Republicans are heading toward an initial Thursday debt ceiling deadline without even a hint of an endgame, ensuring a months-long standoff that’s poised to rattle financial markets amid worries about a recession this year.

The two sides are effectively shrugging as the Treasury Department warns the country will hit the $31.4 trillion borrowing cap Thursday — though it’s not a hard deadline, as the department can still use extraordinary measures to pay the bills for another few months. But it means the potential economic doomsday clock is officially ticking, with House Republicans still insisting on massive spending cuts before they help raise the debt ceiling and Democrats refusing to engage the idea.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said last week that the U.S. likely won’t run out of cash or exhaust those measures until at least early June. Until then, the department is suspending investments in certain government retirement funds and hoping the House GOP and Democrats can come to an agreement to keep the government from careening into an economic crisis with far-reaching consequences.

But Yellen’s warning to congressional leaders hasn’t spurred any movement toward even the beginning of a deal between Congress and the White House. The biggest legislative battle of the year is just beginning — and threatening to grow even messier than the 15-ballot speakership fight — and there’s no exit strategy in sight.
Even some Republicans viewed as more likely to negotiate with the White House are already taking aim at the administration’s position after White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said last week: “We will not be doing any negotiation.”

The White House is already working behind the scenes to work around Speaker Kevin McCarthy, including dispatching its top advisers to meet with moderate Republicans — particularly those who won in districts President Joe Biden won in 2020 — in hopes Democrats can count on those GOP lawmakers to cross the aisle and lift the debt ceiling.

Concessions over the debt ceiling were a vital part of the deal that McCarthy negotiated with his 20 conservative holdouts to finally attain the speakership. He agreed that the GOP House wouldn’t move to lift the debt ceiling unless Congress slashes at least $130 billion in federal spending next fiscal year or addresses broader fiscal reforms that tackle the ballooning debt, as many Republicans argue it threatens the nation’s economic security and future.

Some GOP members are beginning to float more specific plans as the debt-ceiling fight gets officially underway, like the return of a controversial payment prioritization plan that former Sen. Pat Toomey’s (R-Pa.) proposed during a similar showdown about a decade ago. Such a plan would allow the government to keep paying its bondholders if both parties can’t reach an agreement, while dictating what other financial obligations would lapse.

Meanwhile, the primary concern for financial markets is whether the debt ceiling brawl forces the U.S. to miss a payment owed to Treasury bondholders. Treasuries — usually seen as extremely safe assets — underpin the global financial system and are closely tied to lending products like mortgages. Missing a payment could send the stock market off a cliff, though Wall Street analysts are split about how much of a threat the standoff actually poses to the economy, with some banking on Congress and the White House reaching some sort of deal before the federal government misses any debt payments.

Some of the Republicans pushing the payment prioritization plan, first reported by the Washington Post, include Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), one of the 20 holdouts. He told the Post: “We agreed to advance a debt prioritization bill through regular order by the end of the first quarter of 2023 … Now, the contours of that were not specified (there are different versions).”

The hotly debated idea divides Republicans and budget experts alike, and the administration has already swatted it down. White House chief of staff Ron Klain tweeted that it would sow “CHAOS” in the U.S. and “cut off funding” for food safety, FAA operations, border security and drug enforcement.

It’s unclear what capability the Treasury Department has to prioritize payments, with officials declining to comment last week on whether it’s even an option. A top Treasury official stressed in a December speech that debt limit stalemates hurt the department’s cash balance and trigger market volatility. Treasury officials told House Republicans in 2014 that while the government could technically prioritize payments, such a plan would be “entirely experimental and create unacceptable risk to both domestic and global financial markets.”

Payment plan aside, the debt ceiling is a critical political battle for the House GOP. With McCarthy commanding only a narrow majority that can move to topple him at any time, even lawmakers who count him as a friend predict the showdown won’t end well for him. It will "cost Kevin his job" predicted independent senator Kyrsten Sinema.

Did Gym vote against the debt limit increases under Grifty?

 

[The5thHorseman]

All you need to know is that Biden won't budge on hiring 87,000 more IRS agents or on forcing the America taxpayer to pay for student loan deadbeats. That's foolish spending. The IRS agents are needed as they will be unleashed on the American middle class to find new tax revenue to partially pay for their insane new spending. This proposed budget puts the American taxpayer squarely in the Democrat's crosshairs.

Link?

 

[jc456]

Did Gym vote against the debt limit increases under Grifty?

Didn’t the house pass a bill? Why didn’t demofks accept it? Raised the ceiling

 

[The5thHorseman]

Didn’t the house pass a bill? Why didn’t demofks accept it? Raised the ceiling

Just answer the question.