The Hamas Charter

[Indeependent]

Well, even the israelis...who LITERALLY get away with murder...have to exercise SOME modicum of control.

Stupid post of the day.
It’s obvious you have the mental capacity of a paramecium.

 

[surada]

These passages come from the Koran:

Surah V:20 And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah’s favoour unto you, how he placed among you Prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) creatures. O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers.

Surah XVII:104 And we said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass, we shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.

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The Jews did not steal land. They bought it from Turkish landlords, and built kibbutz farms that were far more productive than the land had been before.

When Arabs attacked the Jews, the Jews fought back and won. This happened again and again, and is the story of the Arab - Israeli conflict. Land the Jews did not buy they conquered in wars fought to destroy them.

Yeah they did steal land. Read Moishe Dayan. When Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 most Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen... from 1962 to 1970.

 

[Indeependent]

Yeah they did steal land. Read Moishe Dayan. When Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 most Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen... from 1962 to 1970.

I Googled Moishe Dayan, you moron, it’s a series of memes.
You are an exposed bullshit artist.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Stupid post of the day.
It’s obvious you have the mental capacity of a paramecium

The Israeli government is a parasitic, evil, apartheid state.

A state, more than any other which deserves to be dissolved, and studied by future generations as something that should NEVER be repeated.

 

[Indeependent]

The Israeli government is a parasitic, evil, apartheid state.

A state, more than any other which deserves to be dissolved, and studied by future generations as something that should NEVER be repeated.

An ad hominem; how mature.
Provide a Link that isn’t an Arab or Nazi website.

 

[Friends]

And if they don't they will be as well.

The Israelis want them liquidated, not assimilated.

If you have read the Hamas Charter I have excerpted from, you will see that the Palestinians want the Jews to be liquidated.

 

[Friends]

The Israeli government is a parasitic, evil, apartheid state.

A state, more than any other which deserves to be dissolved, and studied by future generations as something that should NEVER be repeated.

What has happened after the end of apartheid in South Africa in 1994 should have people taking a second look at the benefits of apartheid.

Since American Negroes were given equal rights there have been substantial increases in black social pathology.

 

[Friends]

Hitler had the same idea.

The Nazi effort to exterminate the most superior race in existence has unfortunately led to the delusion that there are no inferior races.

 

[Friends]

Well, even the israelis...who LITERALLY get away with murder...have to exercise SOME modicum of control.

 

[Friends]

Yeah they did steal land. Read Moishe Dayan. When Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 most Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen... from 1962 to 1970.

In the weeks leading up to the Six Day War, Arab leaders repeatedly threatened Israel with annihilation. Together with Egypt's ejection of United Nations forces, the closing of the Straits of Tiran, and the massing of troops on Israel's northern and southern borders, the fiery rhetoric created a state of existential fear in Israel.

Egypt

"Our aim is the full restoration of the rights of the Palestinian people. In other words, we aim at the destruction of the State of Israel. The immediate aim: perfection of Arab military might. The national aim: the eradication of Israel." – President Nasser of Egypt, November 18, 1965

"Brothers, it is our duty to prepare for the final battle in Palestine." – Nasser, Palestine Day, 1967

"Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight . . . The mining of Sharm el Sheikh is a confrontation with Israel. Adopting this measure obligates us to be ready to embark on a general war with Israel." – Nasser, May 27, 1967

"We will not accept any ... coexistence with Israel. ... Today the issue is not the establishment of peace between the Arab states and Israel .... The war with Israel is in effect since 1948." – Nasser, May 28, 1967

"The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel . . . . to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations." – Nasser, May, 30, 1967 after signing a defense pact with Jordan's King Hussein

"We are now ready to confront Israel .... The issue now at hand is not the Gulf of Aqaba, the Straits of Tiran, or the withdrawal of UNEF, but the ... aggression which took place in Palestine ... with the collaboration of Britain and the United States." – Nasser, June 2, 1967

"Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria is in a position to cut Israel in two at Kalkilya, where Israeli territory between the Jordan armistice line and the Mediterranean Sea is only twelve kilometers wide ... ." – El Akhbar newspaper, Cairo, May 31, 1967

Cairo Radio Statements:

May 19, 1967: "This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land"

May 22, 1967: "The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map"

May 25, 1967: "The Gulf of Aqaba, by the dictum of history and the protection of our soldiers, is Arab, Arab, Arab."

May 25, 1967: "Millions of Arabs are ... preparing to blow up all of America's interests, all of America's installations, and your entire existence, America."

May 27, 1967: "We challenge you, Eshkol, to try all your weapons. Put them to the test; they will spell Israel's death and annihilation."

May 30, 1967: "With the closing of the Gulf of Akaba, Israel is faced with two alternatives either of which will destroy it; it will either be strangled to death by the Arab military and economic boycott, or it will perish by the fire of the Arab forces encompassing it from the South from the North and from the East."

May 30, 1967: "The world will know that the Arabs are girded for battle as the fateful hour approaches."

Jordan

"All of the Arab armies now surround Israel. The UAR, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, Algeria, Sudan, and Kuwait. ... There is no difference between one Arab people and another, no difference between one Arab army and another." – King Hussein of Jordan, after signing the pact with Egypt May 30, 1967

Iraq

"The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear – to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, God willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa." – President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967

Palestinians

"D-Day is approaching. The Arabs have waited 19 years for this and will not flinch from the war of liberation." – Ahmed Shukairy, Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization, May 27, 1967

"This is a fight for the homeland – it is either us or the Israelis. There is no middle road. The Jews of Palestine will have to leave. We will facilitate their departure to their former homes. Any of the old Palestine Jewish population who survive may stay, but it is my impression that none of them will survive." – Shukairy, June 1, 1967

"We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants and as for the survivors – if there are any – the boats are ready to deport them." – Shukairy, June 1, 1967, speaking at a Friday sermon in Jerusalem

Syria

Syria's forces are "ready not only to repulse the aggression, but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united.... I as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation." – Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad, May 20, 1967

"Our two brotherly countries have turned into one mobilized force. The withdrawal of the UN forces ... means 'make way, our forces are on their way to battle.'" – Foreign Minister Makhous on his return from Cairo

Others

"The freedom of the homeland will be completed by the destruction of the Zionist entity and the expulsion of the Americans and the British from the region." – Algerian Prime Minister Houari Boumedienne

"We want war. War is the only way to settle the problem of Israel. The Arabs are ready." – Yemeni Foreign Minister Salam
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General References

1) Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict, Mitchell G. Bard, 2001
2) Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, Martin Gilbert, 1993
3) Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Michael B. Oren, 2002​

Arab Threats Against Israel

 

[Friends]

Yeah they did steal land. Read Moishe Dayan. When Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 most Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen... from 1962 to 1970.

The land Israel conquered in an Arab effort to destroy Israel and kill the Jews there was legitimate spoils of victory. Germany lost land after losing World War I and World War II.

 

[Friends]

This is just a hit piece.

It is the truth.

 

[Friends]

State?

There were people with land deeds that had their property stolen during the formation of the apartheid state.

What happened to human rights?

Would you like your home stolen from you?

The land you and your family lived on for hundreds and hundreds of years...if they redrew lines...if new powers came to be?

Then shoved into a 'Refugee Camp'...in the land that you and your family had been on for centuries?

Oh! but THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN STATE...fuckin Drone.

Let me as YOU...how many of those Ashkenazi Jews were from Palestine?

Why are these Europeans claiming ownership?

With their made 'Modern Hebrew' language...and culture.

Who are the invaders?

The Arabs were the invaders. Haven't you read about the Arab conquest of Mid Eastern parts of the Byzantine Empire.

 

[surada]

It is the truth.

Not really. Israel helped create Hamas as a foil to the PLO. Your narrative is very one sided.

 

[Indeependent]

Not really. Israel helped create Hamas as a foil to the PLO. Your narrative is very one sided.

I Googled it and it’s a meme.

 

[surada]

The Arabs were the invaders. Haven't you read about the Arab conquest of Mid Eastern parts of the Byzantine Empire.

Nope. The Akkadians were Arabs from the Arabian peninsula.. they were there long before the Jews or Islam. Haven't you heard of the Akkadian Empire? Moses and Abraham had Arab wives ...and Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria around 500 BC. Your narrative ignores history.

 

[surada]

I Googled it and it’s a meme.

The Israelis have admitted it and expressed their regret. See How Israel helped spawn Hamas.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Then the West Bank Jordanians would have been liquidated.
There are many WBJs working as MDs in Israel’s hospitals.

I've been in Jordan....Petra is not to be missed!

"Israeli–Palestinian Conflict: Was it true that in 1970 Syria tried to invade Jordan, and was only prevented from doing that by Israel?​

Yes.

During the civil war between PLO led Palestinians and the Hashemite kingdom, under the late King Hussein (which included the bloody events of black September and lead to the PLOs migration to South Lebanon), Syria, under pretense of assisting the Palestinians, launched a land invasion into the North of Jordan.

King Hussein, whose forces were spread too thin, secretly contacted the White House in request of aid.

Nixon wouldn't hear of it, the U.S was stuck knee deep in the Vietnam War,
and a conflict in another country they couldn't point at on the map was the last thing the American public would hear of.

Henry Kissinger, then Secretary of State, came up with a surprising concept: reach out to Israel for assistance.

In a low profile channel, Prime Minister Golda Meir, and Defense Minister Moshe Dayan were approached with the request.

(The liaison was Israeli ambassador to the U.S at the time, Yitzhak Rabin, this was later a pinnacle point in the personal friendship that grew between him and King Hussein)

Kissinger made it clear that Hussein is in dire need, what little forces Jordan could spare were no match for the Syrian armored divisions, and they were taking significant losses on the ground and in the air, not affecting Syrian progress deep into Jordan substantially enough.

He also explained why the U.S could not act directly.

Dayan and Meir agreed almost instantly requesting confirmation that Hussein would agree to accept such help.

Kissinger reached out, a reluctant but desperate Hussein agreed, requesting only that the Israelis act in a way that would be somehow kept under the radar.

Within less than a day, the IAF commander, sent a wing of 4 Israeli F-4E Phantom jets on an insanely dangerous mission:

To fly low over the charging Syrian land divisions, throughout the entire northern Jordan front, making sure that the Syrians can positively ID the planes as Israeli Phantoms. The mission was carried out with the wing making sure to deliver several supersonic booms along its route.

IsraeliâPalestinian Conflict: Was it true that in 1970 Syria tried to invade Jordan, and was only prevented from doing that by Israel?

Answer (1 of 5): As a very raw recruit in the 188th Armored Brigade station in the Golan heights in 1970, I remember the Brigade being placed adjacent to the three-way border between Israel, Syrian and Jordan, in position to interdict any Syrian attempt to intervene in “Black September”, when the...

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Within hours Damascus began receiving reports of "mass waves of Israeli air forces attacking Syrian forces all over the front."

A few hours later the invasion was at a stand still, followed by an immediate retreat back to Syria.

The events in Jordan erupted on Sep 17th.

Syria invaded on Sep 20th.

Hussein reached out on the 21st.

Israel acted on the 22nd.

The invasion was aborted on the 23rd.

Israel managed to help out Hussein as he requested:
Without firing a single bullet.

Hussein unofficially confirmed this record of events in 1995, a year after the peace agreement, they were later officially confirmed to the NY times on 2001.

The event brought to the end, de facto, of Israeli Jordanian hostilities, Jordan did not participate in the Yom Kippur war in 73, and served to secretly, but officially establish an Israeli-US strategic alliance in a way that was rewarded 3 years later in that same war.

For more info:
Page on wikispaces.com
Black September, The PLO's attempt to take over Jordan in 1970
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/p...
Page on ndu.edu
Israel–Jordan relations

A truly unique event in Mid East history.

 

[Friends]

Not really. Israel helped create Hamas as a foil to the PLO. Your narrative is very one sided.

Tell this guy that Israel formed his organization:

 

[surada]

Yeah they did steal land. Read Moishe Dayan. When Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 most Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen... from 1962 to 1970.

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ

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