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The Left has been scamming US for years saying that man-made climate change is real and that most of it is caused by US.
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That's all filler blather. Antifa are not the Boy Scouts or Amway.Yea, they could be a factor or not. One thing is for sure, they are not a national organization of any sort. Google Antifa and see what you find. You will find a defunk web site that's not maintained and rarely works, several explanations as to what Atifa is, some news media articles that say practically nothing, half dozen or so right and left web sites making all kinds of claims. What you won't find is Antifa. On facebook there are people claiming to be Antifa but far more just writing about. If Antifa was really an organization of any significance, they would have a working website filled with propaganda, a national spokesperson on cable news, fund raising campaigns, and membership drives. They have none of these because they're not a national organization or even a regional one. In fact, it's not one specific organization with a headquarters and a president and a chain of command. In a sense, there are plenty of antifa groups, but antifa itself is not a group. That description is largely in line with how federal law enforcement has interpreted the antifa movement. Whether you use the term Antifa, Commies, Anarchists, White Supremacist, terrorist, etc. you're not referring to any specific group or organization.
The group took on the label, but why ? Were they trying to cloak themselves under the highjacked title ??? Did they think that they could somehow live up to the title of old ??Of course Antifa exist. Anyone who claims to be anti-fascist is Antifa.
Just as anyone who claims to support liberty is a Libertarian?
What a steaming pile. ANTIFA is a distinct terrorist group that promotes radical leftist ideology and IS in fact fascistic in nature.
I'm just saying it's not a term most Americans are familiar with and many people that have strong anti-fascist beliefs are not familiar with the term either, at least not till Trump decided to demonize it.
The fact is Trump needed a buggy man to blame the riots on and Antifa fit was perfect. They had no national organization and were a bunch disorganized far left groups so they had no national voice which was perfect. The far right could makeup all kinds of shit and there would no national voice in opposition. Even better, democrats would defend them and that would give Republicans an opportunity to associate the Democratic Party with Antifa, a terrorist group; actually, not a bad strategy.
Everyone know who ANTIFA is, and everyone knows they are leftist terrorists.
Apparently the CCP thinks their lackies in the demcrat party need to distance themselves?
We used to be an Anti Fascist country. Interesting story about an Anti-Fascist American, Woody Guthrie and Fred Trump:
For Guthrie, Fred Trump came to personify all the viciousness of the racist codes that continued to put decent housing ā both public and private ā out of reach for so many of his fellow citizens:
I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project ....
And as if to leave no doubt over Trumpās personal culpability in perpetuating black Americansā status as internal refugees ā strangers in their own strange land ā Guthrie reworked his signature Dust Bowl ballad āI Aināt Got No Homeā into a blistering broadside against his landlord:
Beach Haven ain't my home!
I just cain't pay this rent!
My money's down the drain!
And my soul is badly bent!
Beach Haven looks like heaven
Where no black ones come to roam!
No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
Old Beach Haven ain't my home!
In 1979, 12 years after Guthrie had succumbed to the death sentence of Huntingtonās Disease, Village Voice reporter Wayne Barrett published a two-part exposĆ© about Fred and Donald Trumpās real estate empire.
Woody Guthrie, āOld Man Trumpā and a real estate empireās racist foundations
In the 1950s, Woody Guthrie lived in one of Fred Trumpās buildings. In newly discovered, never before published writings, Guthrie bitterly rails against the developerās color line.theconversation.com
I think we have had pollution problems over the years looking back, and it has affected enviroments in which we live in, but as far as the stratosphere goes, no we don't control that nor are we changing it. They found something that they can scam us on, and they jumped on it. I think it all comes down to MONEY, and how to justify getting it out of the taxpayer funds along with raping the social security system etc, and right beneath our open eyes they have done it.The Left has been scamming US for years saying that man-made climate change is real and that most of it is caused by US.
I never said I was an abortion zealot just calling you out for one of your many lies. Seems you can't tell the truth but that's on par for a trumpturd.
KKK and other white supremacy groups are primary targets of Antifa.
They showed up at a KKK rally in Charleston and fighting broke out.
I think this is where Trump discovered them after he made his remarks about plenty of blame to go around on both sides which seam to lend support to the KKK. I believe that's when the anti-Trump stuff appeared on the Antifa web site run by an Oregon group.
The group took on the label, but why ? Were they trying to cloak themselves under the highjacked title ??? Did they think that they could somehow live up to the title of old ??
Are they being sacrilegious by adopting the title instead of earning it ? We are a nation full of labels, lingo's and jingo's anymore, but there isn't any substance to any of it now it seems.
Good read.The group took on the label, but why ? Were they trying to cloak themselves under the highjacked title ??? Did they think that they could somehow live up to the title of old ??
Are they being sacrilegious by adopting the title instead of earning it ? We are a nation full of labels, lingo's and jingo's anymore, but there isn't any substance to any of it now it seems.
ANTIFA is made up mostly of dumb white kids who spent a year or two at a liberal mind rape center where man bunned Marxists practiced the big lie and told them that "FASCISM IS THE OPPOSITE OF MARXISM."
Marxist are fucking liars, every last one of them. Anyone with a hint of education, a modicum of integrity, and an ounce of dignity knows that Marxism and Fascism are conjoined twins sharing the same heart and vital organs, Both are collectivist dictatorships where the rights of individuals are crushed under the boots of the group.
We used to be an Anti Fascist country. Interesting story about an Anti-Fascist American, Woody Guthrie and Fred Trump:
For Guthrie, Fred Trump came to personify all the viciousness of the racist codes that continued to put decent housing ā both public and private ā out of reach for so many of his fellow citizens:
I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project ....
And as if to leave no doubt over Trumpās personal culpability in perpetuating black Americansā status as internal refugees ā strangers in their own strange land ā Guthrie reworked his signature Dust Bowl ballad āI Aināt Got No Homeā into a blistering broadside against his landlord:
Beach Haven ain't my home!
I just cain't pay this rent!
My money's down the drain!
And my soul is badly bent!
Beach Haven looks like heaven
Where no black ones come to roam!
No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
Old Beach Haven ain't my home!
In 1979, 12 years after Guthrie had succumbed to the death sentence of Huntingtonās Disease, Village Voice reporter Wayne Barrett published a two-part exposĆ© about Fred and Donald Trumpās real estate empire.
Woody Guthrie, āOld Man Trumpā and a real estate empireās racist foundations
In the 1950s, Woody Guthrie lived in one of Fred Trumpās buildings. In newly discovered, never before published writings, Guthrie bitterly rails against the developerās color line.theconversation.com
Tell me Comrade; If we take a system where the state has absolute control of the means of production using central planning to determine what products are produced and what price they are sold for, where an authoritarian state rules under dictatorship of either a single man or a group of rulers, where the rights of individuals are subverted to the privilege of groups, where individualism in general is oppressed in favor of the collective, where any competing political or economic ideas are suppressed by the state, where the press is controlled by the state or the party and operates to further the agenda of the rulers, where speech against the state or collectivism in general is a criminal offense; how does this substantially differ from the Marxism you promote?
We used to be an Anti Fascist country. Interesting story about an Anti-Fascist American, Woody Guthrie and Fred Trump:
For Guthrie, Fred Trump came to personify all the viciousness of the racist codes that continued to put decent housing ā both public and private ā out of reach for so many of his fellow citizens:
I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project ....
And as if to leave no doubt over Trumpās personal culpability in perpetuating black Americansā status as internal refugees ā strangers in their own strange land ā Guthrie reworked his signature Dust Bowl ballad āI Aināt Got No Homeā into a blistering broadside against his landlord:
Beach Haven ain't my home!
I just cain't pay this rent!
My money's down the drain!
And my soul is badly bent!
Beach Haven looks like heaven
Where no black ones come to roam!
No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
Old Beach Haven ain't my home!
In 1979, 12 years after Guthrie had succumbed to the death sentence of Huntingtonās Disease, Village Voice reporter Wayne Barrett published a two-part exposĆ© about Fred and Donald Trumpās real estate empire.
Woody Guthrie, āOld Man Trumpā and a real estate empireās racist foundations
In the 1950s, Woody Guthrie lived in one of Fred Trumpās buildings. In newly discovered, never before published writings, Guthrie bitterly rails against the developerās color line.theconversation.com
Tell me Comrade; If we take a system where the state has absolute control of the means of production using central planning to determine what products are produced and what price they are sold for, where an authoritarian state rules under dictatorship of either a single man or a group of rulers, where the rights of individuals are subverted to the privilege of groups, where individualism in general is oppressed in favor of the collective, where any competing political or economic ideas are suppressed by the state, where the press is controlled by the state or the party and operates to further the agenda of the rulers, where speech against the state or collectivism in general is a criminal offense; how does this substantially differ from the Marxism you promote?
Proving once again my Imperial Fascist friend, you're unhinged.
I never said I was an abortion zealot just calling you out for one of your many lies. Seems you can't tell the truth but that's on par for a trumpturd.
But you are an abortion zealot. Promoting abortion is your #1 passion here. Still, the issue is your idiocy about Rudolf. I knew full well you Abortion promoters would pull him out, even though it's been 24 years since the last abortion factory bombing, once Rudolf was caught it ALL STOPPED, despite your blatant lies to the contrary. I said it in my post, You abortion zealots are as predictable as you are dishonest.
FAUXNEWZ is, and has been, lying to you and keeping you emotionally charged for even longer...The Left has been scamming US for years saying that man-made climate change is real and that most of it is caused by US.
FAUXNEWZ is, and has been, lying to you and keeping you emotionally charged for even longer...The Left has been scamming US for years saying that man-made climate change is real and that most of it is caused by US.
Aren't you tired of being led and dragged around by your nostrils? SNAP OUT OF IT!
FAUXNEWZ is, and has been, lying to you and keeping you emotionally charged for even longer...The Left has been scamming US for years saying that man-made climate change is real and that most of it is caused by US.
Aren't you tired of being led and dragged around by your nostrils? SNAP OUT OF IT!
I never claimed they were the good guys only that they were a scapegoat which directs attention away for social issues being protested. Most violence associated with protests are not caused by the organizers but the same criminal elements that riot and loot in WTO protests, yearly May Day anti-capitalism protests, Gay Pride marches, LBGQT protests, gay marriage marches, anti-war protests, Wall Street Protests, ect. They are criminals that use protests as a reasons for striking back at society for perceived injustices. The people that the Seattle Police arrest for looting and rioting generally have arrest records for vandalism, shoplifting, disorderly conduct, and other petty crimes. They are not outside aggregators but live in the city or surrounding area.That's all filler blather. Antifa are not the Boy Scouts or Amway.Yea, they could be a factor or not. One thing is for sure, they are not a national organization of any sort. Google Antifa and see what you find. You will find a defunk web site that's not maintained and rarely works, several explanations as to what Atifa is, some news media articles that say practically nothing, half dozen or so right and left web sites making all kinds of claims. What you won't find is Antifa. On facebook there are people claiming to be Antifa but far more just writing about. If Antifa was really an organization of any significance, they would have a working website filled with propaganda, a national spokesperson on cable news, fund raising campaigns, and membership drives. They have none of these because they're not a national organization or even a regional one. In fact, it's not one specific organization with a headquarters and a president and a chain of command. In a sense, there are plenty of antifa groups, but antifa itself is not a group. That description is largely in line with how federal law enforcement has interpreted the antifa movement. Whether you use the term Antifa, Commies, Anarchists, White Supremacist, terrorist, etc. you're not referring to any specific group or organization.
They are anarchists. The less publicly organized and known they are the better.
They are effective because they can't be traced down or burdened by your clubhouse rules.
Oh yeah...what was that issue again? I heard it seven or eight thousandI never claimed they were the good guys only that they were a scapegoat which directs attention away for social issues being protested.
Do you have a point?Most violence associated with protests are not caused by the organizers but the same criminal elements that riot and loot in WTO protests, yearly May Day anti-capitalism protests, Gay Pride marches, LBGQT protests, gay marriage marches, anti-war protests, Wall Street Protests, ect. They are criminals that use protests as a reasons for striking back at society for perceived injustices. The people that the Seattle Police arrest for looting and rioting generally have arrest records for vandalism, shoplifting, disorderly conduct, and other petty crimes. They are not outside aggregators but live in the city or surrounding area.
If the problem is evil over zealous cops then I believe that problem is being addressed in manyAntifa, anarchist, commies, far left extremist, the alt right, white supremacists are used as scapegoats to direct attention away the protests because most of what is being protested are problems we don't really want to address for various reasons.
You could have saved yourself lots of time if you had made this point first (the troubleFraming the unrest as caused solely by outside agitators suggests that the protesters involved in social change movements are carrying out someone else's nefarious agenda, rather than mobilizing over legitimate concerns of their own.
What an appropriately named site you got this stuff from (talking points memo)."The rumors followed what has become a nationwide pattern of unfounded speculation about roaming bands of āantifaā ā short for antifascist ā destroying towns under the pretext of Black Lives Matter protests. The whispers frequently center on ābusloadsā of outside infiltrators and often inspire heavily armed counter-protesters to stand guard."