The Greatest President in 100 Years

[PoliticalChic]

That would be as bad as taking away her "Rightclick copy" privileges

Green with envy?

More like 'flush with originality'.

Take a lesson, parrot.

I note you haven't run out of emoticons....the thesaurus of the ignorant.

With very little effort, you have become to serious posters what the Washington Generals are to the Harlem Globetrotters.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan inherited an industrial economy in a rough patch. Nothing could have held the US economy back in the early 1980s, although Reagan's hilariously keynesian supply side nonsense did extend the recession of 1981.

Reagan's legacy is an asset-based economy fueled by credit. The Wizard of Oz had more going on than people claiming credit for the credit financed economy of the 1990s. I am laughing out loud at the nutball fantasy ReagaNUTics had a good day. A single good day. And so are serious Zionist neocons.

There isn't enough bullshit (see, "correlation is not cause") in the nutball handbook and there aren't enough neocon think tanks to fool anyone with enough on the ball to pour piss out of a boot while reading the heel label.

But thanks for playing. You probably think Clinton was a Democrat because that's what the label said. Public education since (Reagan fed into the pay parity bogusness) has a lot to answer for is the bottom line.

Reagan was a joke. A joke on America.

"You probably think Clinton was a Democrat because.....blah, blah, blah....."

No, actually...
...I simply think you're a dunce.


It's clear due to your avoidance of Reagan's amazing turning around of the economy.



"But thanks for playing."
How clever....could you possibly be any more of a clichéd?

Who's the dunce, here, babe? Someone stupid enough to believe Reagan turned the economy around, or someone that understands the horsepower of the greatest industrial nation ever to be sold out by a bobble headed idiot?

If you have enough emotional self control to read the facts on Reagan here they are:

1. Tripled the debt
2. Signed pay parity bills
3. Expanded the federal government in size and power while at the same time convincing morons he was doing the opposite
4. First finance sector bailouts (S&Ls, and it was during Reagan's presidency that the Fed started buying private sector paper for the purpose of propping up markets - all the while braying about the purity of markets).
5. Expanded direct corporate welfare beyond Nixon's "revenue sharing" horseshit to state and local governments, possibly the stupidest people ever to bumble into "other people's money".
6. Continued on purpose what the moron, LBJ, started by accident - returning the MIC to the biggest lobby buying congressscum
7. Lied about his military service (although by the time he got to Bitzberg, he was probably more senile than anyone new.

What can possibly be more cliched than gaggles of halfwits following a charismatic to a bad place, then spending the rest of their lives in denial and publicly suppressing buyer's remorse by bragging about their love of the charismatic?

All in all, while bovine America basked in the evangelical skills of a man wrapped in the flag and surrounded by religious nuts, many rational Americans understood that corporations had finally got their man into the white house.

The only reason I paid any attention to the man was to see if a big time Democrat would blow him on camera. For those with the chops to run the numbers and connect cause-effect dots, it can't be missed that it was during the Reagan presidency that America lost its way. All it takes is integrity to admit it. Go ahead, try it. One imagines it won't be the worst morning after of your life.

Next.

As you haven't commented on the facts that I filed, I'll assume that you have no answer to same.


Care to compare that record to the failure currently in the White House?


Or, perhaps, sink to your knees and genuflect in awe as to how Reagan defeated the 'Evil Empire' without firing a shot?



Do so.....and perhaps you might appear less of an ignoramus.

 

[rightwinger]

Reagan inherited an industrial economy in a rough patch. Nothing could have held the US economy back in the early 1980s, although Reagan's hilariously keynesian supply side (in the words of Pap Bush "voodoo" economics) did extend the recession of 1981-82.

Reagan's legacy is an asset-based economy fueled by credit. The Wizard of Oz had more going on than people claiming credit for the credit financed economy of the 1990s. I am laughing out loud at the nutball fantasy ReagaNUTics had a good day. A single good day. And so are serious Zionist neocons.

There isn't enough bullshit (see, "correlation is not cause") in the nutball handbook and there aren't enough neocon think tanks to fool anyone with enough on the ball to pour piss out of a boot while reading the heel label.

But thanks for playing. You probably think Clinton was a Democrat because that's what the label said. Public education since (Reagan fed into the pay parity bogusness) has a lot to answer for is the bottom line.

Reagan was a joke. A joke on America.

We are still feeling the punchline of Reagans joke

 

[rightwinger]

There are those who changed not only America, but the world FDR, Reagan. The top two. One who tried to change America and the world but failed, Wilson. The rest were simply caretakers of various degree of competence and accomplishment.

George W Bush tried to change the world

He had visions of inserting Democracy into Southwest Asia and initiating a regional revolution for democracy. He invaded both Afghanistan and Iraq and installed democracies. He failed in that he he did not anticipate the resulting internal power struggles and the extent of loss of lives to Americans.

He was successful, however, in installing democratic institutions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He did not change the world, but he damned sure changed those two countries.

My view of Democracy has always been you have to earn it.

Having someone else conquer and hand it to you does not work. What Bush accomplished was further destabilizing a region that was on the brink. He made Iran stronger in the region

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

"You probably think Clinton was a Democrat because.....blah, blah, blah....."

No, actually...
...I simply think you're a dunce.


It's clear due to your avoidance of Reagan's amazing turning around of the economy.



"But thanks for playing."
How clever....could you possibly be any more of a clichéd?

Who's the dunce, here, babe? Someone stupid enough to believe Reagan turned the economy around, or someone that understands the horsepower of the greatest industrial nation ever to be sold out by a bobble headed idiot?

If you have enough emotional self control to read the facts on Reagan here they are:

1. Tripled the debt
2. Signed pay parity bills
3. Expanded the federal government in size and power while at the same time convincing morons he was doing the opposite
4. First finance sector bailouts (S&Ls, and it was during Reagan's presidency that the Fed started buying private sector paper for the purpose of propping up markets - all the while braying about the purity of markets).
5. Expanded direct corporate welfare beyond Nixon's "revenue sharing" horseshit to state and local governments, possibly the stupidest people ever to bumble into "other people's money".
6. Continued on purpose what the moron, LBJ, started by accident - returning the MIC to the biggest lobby buying congressscum
7. Lied about his military service (although by the time he got to Bitzberg, he was probably more senile than anyone new.

What can possibly be more cliched than gaggles of halfwits following a charismatic to a bad place, then spending the rest of their lives in denial and publicly suppressing buyer's remorse by bragging about their love of the charismatic?

All in all, while bovine America basked in the evangelical skills of a man wrapped in the flag and surrounded by religious nuts, many rational Americans understood that corporations had finally got their man into the white house.

The only reason I paid any attention to the man was to see if a big time Democrat would blow him on camera. For those with the chops to run the numbers and connect cause-effect dots, it can't be missed that it was during the Reagan presidency that America lost its way. All it takes is integrity to admit it. Go ahead, try it. One imagines it won't be the worst morning after of your life.

Next.

1. As you haven't commented on the facts that I filed, I'll assume that you have no answer to same.


2. Care to compare that record to the failure currently in the White House?


3. Or, perhaps, sink to your knees and genuflect in awe as to how Reagan defeated the 'Evil Empire' without firing a shot?



4. Do so.....and perhaps you might appear less of an ignoramus.

1. Actually each of my responses destroyed every fantasy and delusion human cattle hold about Reagan. (Cluephone note: you might not want everybody to know the extent to which public education has failed you.)

2. Obama is an inexperienced corporate shill, just like Reagan. It isn't clear whether your inability to interpret the facts is some mental limitation or dishonesty. In either event, a measure of your mental defect is bringing up Obama in a discussion of another big spending asshole.

3. The USSR was bankrupt when Reagan was elected. They couldn't even afford hormone shots for the East German "women's" Olympic teams by 1980. The idea the USSR were going to nuke America was popular only among people seeking something to fear. That sort of trait has definitely been traced to genetic defect. If Reagan had focused on industry instead of making up war stories and playing with his plastic soldiers he might have amounted to something in real life instead of just inside the heads of delusional neocons.

4. As long as you are posting fantasy, delusion, and buttlicking the fake Republican New Dealer who rolled zillions of nutballs in the dim recesses of their minds there is no chance anyone with a three digit IQ is going to worry about my limits. Mostly they'll be hoping you really do live way far away without access to anything sharp.

In sum, Wonder Woman, you might want to work on your math, logic and presentation skills. There appear to be a few... issues.

 

[regent]

Is Reagan to be excused for Iran-Contra because of alzheimer? Did Reagan know of Iran Contra while it was being executed during his presidency or did he just not remember when asked later?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The "American" Left hates Reagan because Reagan never understood the love the Soviets had for their Eastern European slave nations

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Today is the birthday of Ronald Reagan.

February 6, 1911

[dime a dozen nutball nonsense omitted to cut to the chase]

Happy Birthday to ...
Ronald Reagan.

To quote Adams correctly, facts are stubborn things...

Exective abstract: During Reagan's terms laughing clowns entertained cheering fools while knaves looted the bank. Aware folks rate presidents by the EFFECTS of their policies. Halfwit America associates presidents with contemporaneous economic results, most of which are results of previous presidential policies. Reagan set the stage for dividing America by pitting money against labor in ways that were believed ended in 1930. Clinton finished implementing Reagan's economic policies, and the Bush League took voodoo economics (aka, asset-based economics) to their inevitable conclusion: down the drain.​

Reagan's promises
1. Reduce federal spending
2. Reduce income taxes
3. Reduce regulation
4. Reduce inflation

Reagan's actual performance as rated when he left office (some records have been broken)

1. Promise to reduce federal spending

a. Tripled national debt from $900kk to $2.8kkk in eight years, raising it from 26%GDP to 41%GDP; before Reagan the fastest tripling of peacetime national debt took 31 years
b. Doubled foreign aid $10kk to $22kk
c. 53% increase in on budget federal spending; 60% gross increase in federal spending
d. 230,000 more CIVILIAN federal employees
e. Doubled subsidies to defense firms lobbying congress
f. More than doubled farm subsidies
g. Doubled subsidies to educational unions
h. Signed pay parity bills
​

2. Reduce income taxes create prosperity

a. Largest across the board tax increase in US history (TERFA) 1982
b. Largest middle class tax increase in US history (TRA) 1986
c. Unemployment AVERAGED 7.5%, the highest ever eight year average
d. Real rate of GDP growth 2.8% vs 3.4% under Carter
e. Productivity growth 1.4% vs 1.9% under Carter
​

3. Reduce regulation

a. First federal bailout of private banks (S&Ls)
b. First federal bailouts of Wall Street (FED buying private sector securities)
c. Increased ethanol subsidies (1984, from 50c to 60c/gal)
d. Offered blanket pardon to eight million illegal aliens; 2.9 million took him up but all benefited.
e. Opened borders to cheap Asian goods (Taiwan, Japan then) at cost of millions of US jobs
​

4. Reduce inflation

a. Borrowed money to hide the inflationary effects of changing economy toward asset base
b. Changed character of US job base from industrial to retail (MLM type instead of production)
c. Changed statistical bases for recording official economic situation numbers
​

Summary on Reagan

Reagan delivered higher taxes to working class Americans, lower taxes on people and corporations exploiting American workers, and he did it with a smile, hitting every mark on his stage. In sum Reagan was a shallow thinking gladhanding corporate shill; Otis Chandler hired him to beat Pat Brown in California, then handed his boy off to Don Regan. Reagan's stage managers kept him center stage shadow boxing a bankrupt and tottering empire to the applause of halfwit America, while they worked behind the scenes with corrupt congresses to loot the federal treasury. By the time he left office WF Buckley and Barry Goldwater had come to regret ever supporting Reagan. All that kept them silent in public was their own complicity in electing someone that stupid and weak.

A footnote: Reagan's acting chops were not recognized in life; in real time he fooled that segment who could be fooled. That was then. An important measure of the worth of a person is whether they continue to buy the Legend of Ronald Reagan or not.

 

[oldfart]

Is Reagan to be excused for Iran-Contra because of alzheimer? Did Reagan know of Iran Contra while it was being executed during his presidency or did he just not remember when asked later?

Just my personal opinion: Reagan had a large capacity for self-delusion throughout his life. He either was constantly aware and involved in Iran--Contra or he initiated it and then chose to have "plausible deniability" which is probably more likely. Reagan was not stupid when it came to politics; he knew what a bomb a smoking gun tying him to Iran--Contra would be. At some point late in his second term Alzheimer could have been a factor, but I don't think a major one.

Reagan is responsible for Iran--Contra in the same way that Cheney is responsible for the Plame affair.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

 

[Toronado3800]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

"....FDR successfully avoided a war...."

...by simply kneeling before Stalin and giving him whatever he wished.
FDR was in the thrall of Joe Stalin.

 

[CrimsonNan]

I'm a newbie and not sure how to post, but anyway, I will try to say Happy Birthday Reagan Feb.6th.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is Reagan to be excused for Iran-Contra because of alzheimer? Did Reagan know of Iran Contra while it was being executed during his presidency or did he just not remember when asked later?

1. The Iran-Contra scandal involved the sale of arms to Iran, basically to ransom American hostages that Islamic extremists held, and diverting proceeds from the sale to the Contras in Nicaragua. Neither the sale nor the diversions of funds were clear violations of existing laws: subsequent independent counsel investigations never directly charged anyone with crimes for either the arms sales nor the diversions.

2. "... reversal of NSC staff member Oliver North and National Security Adviser John Poindexter’s convictions. The Court of Appeals reversed their convictions because they successfully argued that witnesses in their trials might have been affected by publicized immunized congressional testimony, even though the prosecutors themselves had taken painstaking efforts to avoid encountering information about the hearings."
Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Legal Aftermath (convictions: Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Legal Aftermath)


a. Two points should be made clear. The Democrat Congress was strongly in favor of the communists of Nicaragua, and the scandal was an attempt to tie the hands of the President, who was strongly anti-communist. And, two, congressional attempts to conduct foreign policy were, at the very least, constitutionally dubious. Reagan often complained that it was not possible to carry out foreign policy with 535 secretaries of state in Congress.


b. See John Locke’s “Second Treatise of Government,” the primary inspiration for the Declaration of Independence, for the nature of the prerogative in the executive branch. He defined it as “nothing but the power of doing public good without a rule.” John Locke: Second Treatise of Civil Government: Chapter 11
and “ Indeed, it is appropriate that the laws themselves should in some cases give way to the executive power,…”
John Locke's Second Treatise of Government Chapter 14


c. Thomas Jefferson to John B. Colvin: “ ... circumstances do not sometimes occur, which make it a duty in officers of high trust, to assume authorities beyond the law, ...” Article 2, Section 3: Thomas Jefferson to John B. Colvin



3. Locke concluded that the people would, ultimately, decide: “The people,” Locke wrote, “observing the whole tendency of their actions to be the public good, contested not what was done without law to that end, or, if any human frailty or mistake—for princes are but men, made as others—appeared in some small declinations from that end, yet it was visible the main of their conduct tended to nothing but the care of the public. The people, therefore, finding reason to be satisfied with these princes whenever they acted without or contrary to the letter of the law, acquiesced in what they did….” Op. cit.


a. The outcome of the constitutional struggle over the Iran-Contra matter would be decided in that exact way: by public judgment of the political clash in Washington. The joint House-Senate committee investigation of the Iran-Contra affair—an investigation Democrats likened to Watergate and hoped would end with Reagan’s impeachment—took a turn President Reagan’s critics had not expected when Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North appeared and delivered a devastatingly effective attack on liberals in Congress for their irresponsible meddling in foreign policy.

Public opinion decisively shifted in Reagan’s favor, and the liberal dream of driving another Republican president from office died quickly. In other words, the people judged, just as Locke said they should, and judged that Reagan had acted properly, if not necessarily wisely.
The Unsolvable Problem of Executive Power | Power Line



Nor is it surprising that you have the typical bumper-sticker understanding of the Iran-Contra issue.

In fact....I'll bet you even believe that there are pictures of J. Edgar Hoover in a dress.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

 

[Toronado3800]

Reagan freed the decedents of the people FDR's "Uncle" Joe Stalin enslaved

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

"....FDR successfully avoided a war...."

...by simply kneeling before Stalin and giving him whatever he wished.
FDR was in the thrall of Joe Stalin.

Let me speak plainly, Stalin sucked. Being in a room with the monster and not being able to kill him had to suck.

The cold war was pretty hard fought to. Like you say though, capitalism beats socialism and maybe FDR had that opinion that eventually our economic system would allow us to swallow theirs.

BTW, what did FDR give Stalin that angers folks? Largely the land Russian troops were already on? A couple more costly to maintain than useful "R" class British battleships left over from the last war with Germany?

This was a Russia where bother fathers and their sons had to go die to reclaim their land from Germany. Folks were angry.

The plight of Eastern Europe really SUCKED. I still don't know what we could have done, started the cold war six months sooner?

The outcome of any war with Russia was debatable also. I see us and the Brits being pushed back to Dunkirk before our navy accomplished what, landing in Siberia?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who's the dunce, here, babe? Someone stupid enough to believe Reagan turned the economy around, or someone that understands the horsepower of the greatest industrial nation ever to be sold out by a bobble headed idiot?

If you have enough emotional self control to read the facts on Reagan here they are:

1. Tripled the debt
2. Signed pay parity bills
3. Expanded the federal government in size and power while at the same time convincing morons he was doing the opposite
4. First finance sector bailouts (S&Ls, and it was during Reagan's presidency that the Fed started buying private sector paper for the purpose of propping up markets - all the while braying about the purity of markets).
5. Expanded direct corporate welfare beyond Nixon's "revenue sharing" horseshit to state and local governments, possibly the stupidest people ever to bumble into "other people's money".
6. Continued on purpose what the moron, LBJ, started by accident - returning the MIC to the biggest lobby buying congressscum
7. Lied about his military service (although by the time he got to Bitzberg, he was probably more senile than anyone new.

What can possibly be more cliched than gaggles of halfwits following a charismatic to a bad place, then spending the rest of their lives in denial and publicly suppressing buyer's remorse by bragging about their love of the charismatic?

All in all, while bovine America basked in the evangelical skills of a man wrapped in the flag and surrounded by religious nuts, many rational Americans understood that corporations had finally got their man into the white house.

The only reason I paid any attention to the man was to see if a big time Democrat would blow him on camera. For those with the chops to run the numbers and connect cause-effect dots, it can't be missed that it was during the Reagan presidency that America lost its way. All it takes is integrity to admit it. Go ahead, try it. One imagines it won't be the worst morning after of your life.

Next.

1. As you haven't commented on the facts that I filed, I'll assume that you have no answer to same.


2. Care to compare that record to the failure currently in the White House?


3. Or, perhaps, sink to your knees and genuflect in awe as to how Reagan defeated the 'Evil Empire' without firing a shot?



4. Do so.....and perhaps you might appear less of an ignoramus.

1. Actually each of my responses destroyed every fantasy and delusion human cattle hold about Reagan. (Cluephone note: you might not want everybody to know the extent to which public education has failed you.)

2. Obama is an inexperienced corporate shill, just like Reagan. It isn't clear whether your inability to interpret the facts is some mental limitation or dishonesty. In either event, a measure of your mental defect is bringing up Obama in a discussion of another big spending asshole.

3. The USSR was bankrupt when Reagan was elected. They couldn't even afford hormone shots for the East German "women's" Olympic teams by 1980. The idea the USSR were going to nuke America was popular only among people seeking something to fear. That sort of trait has definitely been traced to genetic defect. If Reagan had focused on industry instead of making up war stories and playing with his plastic soldiers he might have amounted to something in real life instead of just inside the heads of delusional neocons.

4. As long as you are posting fantasy, delusion, and buttlicking the fake Republican New Dealer who rolled zillions of nutballs in the dim recesses of their minds there is no chance anyone with a three digit IQ is going to worry about my limits. Mostly they'll be hoping you really do live way far away without access to anything sharp.

In sum, Wonder Woman, you might want to work on your math, logic and presentation skills. There appear to be a few... issues.

"The USSR was bankrupt when Reagan was elected. They couldn't even afford hormone shots for the East German "women's" Olympic teams by 1980. The idea the USSR were going to nuke America was popular only among people seeking something to fear."





"Many forces contributed to the fall of the "Evil Empire", but foremost among them was the deployment of those 464 cruise and 108 Pershing II missiles slated to offset triple-warhead Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers that could reach all of Western Europe (but not the American homeland). Needless to say, it was not the "theo-logic" of deterrence that drove the counter-deployment. The drama was not really about "circular-errors probable" or "hard-target kill capabilities." The name of the game was as old as Thucydides' disquisitions on Peloponnesian power politics. It was a pure test of will and strength, and on its outcome hung, as it turned out, history. Yet what a slender thread it was."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_77/ai_n6353166/pg_3/?tag=content;col1



So....you must believe that, among all of the other falsities to which you subscribe,

"triple-warhead Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers that could reach all of Western Europe" are less expensive than "hormone shots for the East German "women's" Olympic teams by 1980."


'you might want to work on your math, logic and presentation skills.'
That sound? Me, laughing at you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Frank, what do you mean?

Do you mean Reagan got my kid to pay the interest on his "prosperity"?

Do you mean the U.S.S.R. came apart while Reagan was in office and FDR successfully avoided a war we might not have won in a decade? Yak vs Corsair or T34 vs Sherman anyone?

"....FDR successfully avoided a war...."

...by simply kneeling before Stalin and giving him whatever he wished.
FDR was in the thrall of Joe Stalin.

Let me speak plainly, Stalin sucked. Being in a room with the monster and not being able to kill him had to suck.

The cold war was pretty hard fought to. Like you say though, capitalism beats socialism and maybe FDR had that opinion that eventually our economic system would allow us to swallow theirs.

BTW, what did FDR give Stalin that angers folks? Largely the land Russian troops were already on? A couple more costly to maintain than useful "R" class British battleships left over from the last war with Germany?

This was a Russia where bother fathers and their sons had to go die to reclaim their land from Germany. Folks were angry.

The plight of Eastern Europe really SUCKED. I still don't know what we could have done, started the cold war six months sooner?

The outcome of any war with Russia was debatable also. I see us and the Brits being pushed back to Dunkirk before our navy accomplished what, landing in Siberia?

Yet....you're not disagreeing that FDR gave Stalin everything that he wished....at a time when the US was the only nation with nuclear weapons.

Nor....that FDR had a vice president who has been revealed as having worked with the NKVD, and promoted spies in his administration.

Strange how you guys can never read those tea leaves.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Interesting how quickly people who never heard a shot fired in anger will shed the blood of their betters. It'd be good to see every individual supporting war required to serve in a combat capacity.

If, for example, remf cowards and infamous chickenhawks Reagan or Junebug had heard the command "fix bayonets" inside a wire there is reasonable probability US history would be significantly different.

What a tough guy!
I knew you were really macho by the hair transplants you had in the palms of your hands.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Yet....you're not disagreeing that FDR gave Stalin everything that he wished....at a time when the US was the only nation with nuclear weapons.

Nor....that FDR had a vice president who has been revealed as having worked with the NKVD, and promoted spies in his administration.

Strange how you guys can never read those tea leaves.

In addition when MacArthur wanted to bury the Chinese, Truman set the US up to drag South Korea behind it like a bad leg. Instead of kicking the shit out of the Chinese and getting it over with, American citizens ended up with the Asian equivalent of Israel, all cost and no benefit.

By 1980 America's body politic had degenerated to the point where voters had to choose between a chickenshit micromanager and a gladhanding nutball halfwit. As quick as Reagan could open the borders to cheap Asian labor (SK, Japan and Taiwan) to act as deflationary agents making the FriedmaNUT credit-based economy look like it could work.

Sad, really. But as someone above posted, we are all living in the economy Reagan made inevitable.