Liar.
In fact, D'Souza totally embarrassed himself.
In his own words:
Bump: Let’s take a step back — my understanding also is that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was provided with the cellphone IDs because they had these spreadsheets of data that they were provided, I think, in October 2021.
But that aside, this is exactly the point. We have this assertion being made by Gregg Phillips about what is happening with this picture being taken. You are saying — and, actually, you haven’t actually said yet — that this came from the whistleblower. Did the whistleblower say that they were paid only if they took photos of the ballots?
D’Souza: No, I don’t know that. I don’t know that because I haven’t talked to the whistleblower. The whistleblower spoke to True the Vote investigators. So I have to admit that my information from that comes from True the Vote and also from the Georgia reports, which I’ve read.
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D’Souza: Not of themselves. We show a lot more than two. Honestly, we show a lot more than two. Go back and watch the film. We have a lot of images of people taking photos, particularly when we show the expanded screen with multiple mules.
Now, what I’m saying is this: If they were taking photos of themselves, you could then argue they’re taking a selfie to demonstrate that they voted. But I think it’s quite obvious from the footage itself that they’re taking photos of the ballots going in, and that’s a whole different matter. So I think you’re doing what I would call “armchair theorizing.”
Bump: Oh, Dinesh!
D’Souza: It seems to me that maybe they were trying to record themselves. What I’m saying is investigators who study this can tell the difference between taking a photo of yourself in front of the ballot box and taking a photo of the ballots going in. And they can interpret taking photos of ballots very differently from taking a photo of yourself.
Bump: Okay. So I just —
D’Souza: You disagree?
Bump: Oh, absolutely. Not only do I disagree, I found examples of people taking photos of
that exact same drop box, because they were just showing that they’ve gone to the drop box to vote! There’s a lot of examples of —
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Bump: That’s not true. I’m saying that the bike guy — the sole evidence presented for the guy being a, quote, “mule” in your movie is: A guy goes up to a drop box, deposits a ballot. After it is deposited, he takes a photo of the drop box. That is the entire amount of evidence that is presented beyond Gregg Phillips’s word. And now this is the point —
D’Souza: No, I don’t agree.
Bump: Let me finish. This is the point at which I point out that Gregg Phillips
misrepresented wildly the extent of voter fraud in the 2016 election. He claimed he had millions of illegal ballots that were cast in 2016, something that Donald Trump then elevated — he never offered any proof for it. Gregg Phillips is not someone who’s credible on these issues, and his word is the only word we’re given that the bike guy went to other drop boxes.
How am I wrong?
D’Souza: You’re wrong because this video is taken in a place where there are authorities involved, who are looking into this exact matter. They have this exact data and, in fact, many of them inside of the GBI and inside of Brian Kemp’s office and inside of Raffensperger’s office are very eager to try to fight back and push back against True the Vote. They have never made the argument you’ve made. So you’re literally playing ballistics expert, so-called, when, A, you don’t know anything about ballistics and, B, no ballistics expert is saying what you’re saying.
Bump: If we are taking the movie at face value, my point is totally valid. The only evidence presented is a claim that he’s carrying multiple ballots, which is unfounded. That he deposited the ballots and then took a picture.