The GOP and the misuse of the term "benefits"

[rdean]

So I'm watching Morning Joe and the Republicans on the show are saying that people won't work because of all the benefits they get from Obamacare for not working. That Obamacare reduces the incentive to work by giving you too many "benefits".

Well, for those making that argument, I have a news flash. Healthcare doesn't pay your rent. Doesn't give you food or clothes. People that make the minimum wage don't work to go to the doctor. They don't need to. They can go to the emergency room for 10 to 100 times or more, the cost of just visiting a regular doctor. And if they get to a doctor and have whatever treated BEFORE it becomes serious, that saves tax payers a ton of money.

People actually work for things like food and clothes and a warm and safe place to sleep. Healthcare tends to come in someplace near or at the end.

So the real incentive of Affordable Care is to keep the population healthy so we aren't paying for lots and lots of really sick people. That is such common sense. No matter how the GOP tries, the majority of people will never support "let him die".

And just two days ago, the very same guy was talking about a family with three kids whose parents had quit their jobs they hated to start their own business. The only reason they hadn't done that before was the cost of health care for their three kids. And starting a business is hard work. You put in many more hours than a regular 40 hour a week job. So are these people scamming the system or are they actually adding to the economy?

Republicans start these narratives hoping other Americans think bad about their neighbors. That's the only way they work. They have to get Republicans to despise other Americans.

It seems the GOP wants you "locked" into a job so you can work as much as you can until the day you die.

And the Democrats on the show, like Meeka, are simply in over their heads when confronted by these shysters like Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough. They just sit there looking stupid.

Again and again, America is fooled by Republicans. But it certainly is happening less. That will make the GOP overstep and become truly irrelevant. But it will take even more time as long as the so called "liberal" media keeps giving them a soapbox.

 

[peach174]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

 

[Yurt]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

oh my, rdean lied again

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dean spends a lot of time watching Morning Joe

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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[Darkwind]

My my...deany trying to explain the English language to anyone is just not something that occurs in nature.

So deany....shall we discuss the progressives misuse of the word, "compassion??"

 

[Darkwind]

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lol

 

[Oldstyle]

Does Deanie REALLY need to tell us that he was watching MSNBC? Like that doesn't go without saying?

I especially love the new liberal narrative that people having their hours cut back from full time to part time won't REALLY be a bad thing for them because they'll be able to spend more quality time with their kids.

 

[rdean]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

That's just ridiculous. People don't want less pay. This is a right wing fabrication. They may be able to get better coverage with less pay, but they don't want less pay.

It's the ACA which is giving many poor and middle class health care, something they otherwise wouldn't have. Republicans aren't fighting to get more Americans covered, they want fewer covered. That's the heart of the difference between the right and the left on healthcare.

Republicans don't want Americans to have any type of mobility. They want Americans to locked into a job, if they have one, and stay there.

 

[Oldstyle]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

That's just ridiculous. People don't want less pay. This is a right wing fabrication. They may be able to get better coverage with less pay, but they don't want less pay.

It's the ACA which is giving many poor and middle class health care, something they otherwise wouldn't have. Republicans aren't fighting to get more Americans covered, they want fewer covered. That's the heart of the difference between the right and the left on healthcare.

Republicans don't want Americans to have any type of mobility. They want Americans to locked into a job, if they have one, and stay there.

You are such an intellectual "lightweight", Deanie! Let me see if I can explain this in terms that even YOU can grasp!

If you're making $20,500 a year and realize that if you were making less than $20,000 a year that you would qualify for large subsidies to your healthcare costs would you or wouldn't you want to make "less pay"?

Take your time and think about it, Deanie...I know this complicated stuff confuses you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Boy dean sure can not figure anything out, like I hate working over 50 hours a week I get more taxes taken out and I end up just making like 10 bucs an hour over 70 hours a week

 

[bripat9643]

So I'm watching Morning Joe and the Republicans on the show are saying that people won't work because of all the benefits they get from Obamacare for not working. That Obamacare reduces the incentive to work by giving you too many "benefits".

Well, for those making that argument, I have a news flash. Healthcare doesn't pay your rent. Doesn't give you food or clothes. People that make the minimum wage don't work to go to the doctor. They don't need to. They can go to the emergency room for 10 to 100 times or more, the cost of just visiting a regular doctor. And if they get to a doctor and have whatever treated BEFORE it becomes serious, that saves tax payers a ton of money.

People actually work for things like food and clothes and a warm and safe place to sleep. Healthcare tends to come in someplace near or at the end.

So the real incentive of Affordable Care is to keep the population healthy so we aren't paying for lots and lots of really sick people. That is such common sense. No matter how the GOP tries, the majority of people will never support "let him die".

And just two days ago, the very same guy was talking about a family with three kids whose parents had quit their jobs they hated to start their own business. The only reason they hadn't done that before was the cost of health care for their three kids. And starting a business is hard work. You put in many more hours than a regular 40 hour a week job. So are these people scamming the system or are they actually adding to the economy?

Republicans start these narratives hoping other Americans think bad about their neighbors. That's the only way they work. They have to get Republicans to despise other Americans.

It seems the GOP wants you "locked" into a job so you can work as much as you can until the day you die.

And the Democrats on the show, like Meeka, are simply in over their heads when confronted by these shysters like Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough. They just sit there looking stupid.

Again and again, America is fooled by Republicans. But it certainly is happening less. That will make the GOP overstep and become truly irrelevant. But it will take even more time as long as the so called "liberal" media keeps giving them a soapbox.

The bottom line, dipstick, is that, no matter how intensely you want to define it as one, healthcare isn't a right. It's a benefit.

 

[OriginalShroom]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

oh my, rdean lied again

Of course rdean lied again. His first lie is claiming that there are Republicans on Morning Joe.

 

[chikenwing]

So I'm watching Morning Joe and the Republicans on the show are saying that people won't work because of all the benefits they get from Obamacare for not working. That Obamacare reduces the incentive to work by giving you too many "benefits".

Well, for those making that argument, I have a news flash. Healthcare doesn't pay your rent. Doesn't give you food or clothes. People that make the minimum wage don't work to go to the doctor. They don't need to. They can go to the emergency room for 10 to 100 times or more, the cost of just visiting a regular doctor. And if they get to a doctor and have whatever treated BEFORE it becomes serious, that saves tax payers a ton of money.

People actually work for things like food and clothes and a warm and safe place to sleep. Healthcare tends to come in someplace near or at the end.

So the real incentive of Affordable Care is to keep the population healthy so we aren't paying for lots and lots of really sick people. That is such common sense. No matter how the GOP tries, the majority of people will never support "let him die".

And just two days ago, the very same guy was talking about a family with three kids whose parents had quit their jobs they hated to start their own business. The only reason they hadn't done that before was the cost of health care for their three kids. And starting a business is hard work. You put in many more hours than a regular 40 hour a week job. So are these people scamming the system or are they actually adding to the economy?

Republicans start these narratives hoping other Americans think bad about their neighbors. That's the only way they work. They have to get Republicans to despise other Americans.

It seems the GOP wants you "locked" into a job so you can work as much as you can until the day you die.

And the Democrats on the show, like Meeka, are simply in over their heads when confronted by these shysters like Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough. They just sit there looking stupid.

Again and again, America is fooled by Republicans. But it certainly is happening less. That will make the GOP overstep and become truly irrelevant. But it will take even more time as long as the so called "liberal" media keeps giving them a soapbox.

Go and get the transcript from the official white house mouth piece and read you ignorant,partisan ass hole. It won't be hard to find it was done just yesterday. The white house did a very good jub of killing what you just blurted out.

 

[rdean]

I watched the same show rdean.
What they were saying was if you work over a certain amount of hours you lose the ACA.
That then gives the incentive to work less hours.
Less hours less pay.

That's just ridiculous. People don't want less pay. This is a right wing fabrication. They may be able to get better coverage with less pay, but they don't want less pay.

It's the ACA which is giving many poor and middle class health care, something they otherwise wouldn't have. Republicans aren't fighting to get more Americans covered, they want fewer covered. That's the heart of the difference between the right and the left on healthcare.

Republicans don't want Americans to have any type of mobility. They want Americans to locked into a job, if they have one, and stay there.

You are such an intellectual "lightweight", Deanie! Let me see if I can explain this in terms that even YOU can grasp!

If you're making $20,500 a year and realize that if you were making less than $20,000 a year that you would qualify for large subsidies to your healthcare costs would you or wouldn't you want to make "less pay"?

Take your time and think about it, Deanie...I know this complicated stuff confuses you.

Try to wrap your tiny pointed mind around this. People making that little don't have health care now. Duh! They want every cent they can get. Duh! They aren't going to try to earn less, especially if they aren't sick. Duh!

Somehow, even that very easy and tiny point to understand is much to big for you to wrap your tiny mind around.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Millions have already lost their healthcare due to obamacare. But then again, this is rdean's.......er alice in wonderland world.

 

[rdean]

Millions have already lost their healthcare due to obamacare. But then again, this is rdean's.......er alice in wonderland world.

Yea, 50 dollar a month healthcare without hospital or maternity that let's you see a doctor, what? Three times a year? We call that a "scam".

Your kind call it a "good deal".

Love the gay icon that's your avatar.

 

[Mr. H.]

People don't want less pay.

People will accept less pay, if given the opportunity to work less for more government pay.

 

[Oldstyle]

That's just ridiculous. People don't want less pay. This is a right wing fabrication. They may be able to get better coverage with less pay, but they don't want less pay.

It's the ACA which is giving many poor and middle class health care, something they otherwise wouldn't have. Republicans aren't fighting to get more Americans covered, they want fewer covered. That's the heart of the difference between the right and the left on healthcare.

Republicans don't want Americans to have any type of mobility. They want Americans to locked into a job, if they have one, and stay there.

You are such an intellectual "lightweight", Deanie! Let me see if I can explain this in terms that even YOU can grasp!

If you're making $20,500 a year and realize that if you were making less than $20,000 a year that you would qualify for large subsidies to your healthcare costs would you or wouldn't you want to make "less pay"?

Take your time and think about it, Deanie...I know this complicated stuff confuses you.

Try to wrap your tiny pointed mind around this. People making that little don't have health care now. Duh! They want every cent they can get. Duh! They aren't going to try to earn less, especially if they aren't sick. Duh!

Somehow, even that very easy and tiny point to understand is much to big for you to wrap your tiny mind around.

Couldn't figure it out...could ya', little buddy? I know this is a toughie for liberals like yourself but if they earn LESS...they actually end up spending less because it makes them eligible for subsidies. If they earn MORE...then they end up spending more because they no longer are eligible for subsidized health care. They will also most likely be losing their food stamps and possibly their subsidized housing. What you do with your progressive policies is encourage people NOT to earn more money.

Either that or go underground with their earnings...working for undeclared cash...which means fewer taxes going into the government coffers to pay for all of your freebies.

 

[007]

The unaffordable health care act will be repealed in full. Even dems are beginning to distance themselves from it, and don't want to be seen with the kenyan marxist.

Another 45,000,000 people will be losing their health care later this year, which will cause dems to lose by historic proportions in November. My guess is that a full repeal will be voted on by a veto proof majority. The kenyan's socialist wet dream of controlling people by controlling health care is going to come crashing down like the monumental disaster it is, and will be nothing more than a foot note even before Barry Soetoro leaves office.

Sorry... libtards... but it's coming, and you know it.