The glaring evidence that Obamacare is a catastrophic FAILURE continues to mount

[P@triot]

First of all, who incurs a $500,000 medical bill?

I can't believe someone would actually ask such a stupid question. Wait...I can. You.

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

 

[P@triot]

I drilled down through all the layers right into the PDF and sorry, but what you fail to realize is there's nothing illegal going on here.

There's complete transparency and a legal agreement with the amount to be paid.

There's no billions of dollars in cash going overseas in suitcases to Iraq...Ooops, sorry. Wrong administration.......

How the US sent $12,000,000,000 in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish
"""The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.
The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional committee."""
How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish | World news | The Guardian


And given that the NFL is socialized sports, because if they didn't spread the wealth and the players around each year we'd be watching the same two teams play all year long, I think it's hypocritical if they don't accept the promotional offer.
Goodell Admits NFL is Socialist
January 30, 2012
Home Page.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/30/goodell_admits_nfl_is_socialist

So, sorry, Rotty, but again you are just a puppy ready to roll over and pee on yourself before you actually think about what you're saying.

Hey stupid (aka [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION]), where exactly did I say something "illegal" occurred? You responded to my FULL post (and thank you for that) - so please highlight the section where I said paying the Baltimore Ravens to promote this piece of shit legislation was "illegal".

So stupid, but again you are just a Dumbocrat ready to roll over and pee on yourself before you actually think about what you're reading. (By the way, how does it feel being my personal bitch on USMB?)

The column is "Washington Secrets". And apparently there is no secret, sucker.

Oh [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION], I just feel sorry for you now. You're lack of reading comprehension is so painfully obvious now (and we can't emphasis the word painfully enough) that it's just gotten to the point of cringing out of embarassment for you every time I read your posts.

No where did I state anything "illegal" occurred. I never even used that word, nor did I even imply anything of the sort.

The only "sucker" is you believing the shit-sandwhich that Obama is feeding you is actually any good...

 

[Seawytch]

Super Bowl champ Baltimore Ravens getting paid $130,000 to promote Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com

Can we assume you oppose NASCAR sponsorships by the military?

 

[Seawytch]

First of all, who incurs a $500,000 medical bill?

I can't believe someone would actually ask such a stupid question. Wait...I can. You.

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news...owing-burden-the-high-cost-of-care/53271430/1

 

[Seawytch]

http://www.tcu360.com/campus/2012/01/14225.student-faces-500000-medical-debt-health-issues

 

[RDD_1210]

Dude - I've completely owned you. There are many variables and all you give is ONE of many and expect a number. This is how stupid you are.

Do houses have payment plans? Do automobiles have payment plans? Do dentists have payment plans?!?! So why is this any different?!?!

Do you see what an ignorant buffoon you are? You've been humiliated here son. You're just paralyzed with fear that someone will actually make you pay your own way through life instead of sitting on your ass in your trailer park typing nonsense on USMB like "hey, this scenario has 37 variables, but I'm going to give you ONE and expect an answer"

Another post where you refuse to lay out a basic payment plan. It's not a difficult request, yet you refuse to answer. Your excuses are lame and your viewpoint has been exposed as selfish and flawed.

I can't post a payment plan with 1/37th of the information required to create the plan stupid...

Do houses have payment plans? Do automobiles have payment plans? Do dentists have payment plans?!?! So why is this any different?!?!

Why can't you answer [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]? Too stupid?

What information are you missing to put together a hypothetical payment plan? Give me one example of a critical piece of information that is preventing you from answering.

 

[RDD_1210]

Student faces $500,000 medical debt, health issues | TCU 360

He's literally clueless. That much is evident.

 

[Zoom-boing]

My master? You're the one who bent over and took it, and bought insurance because the government told you to.

I'm a law abiding citizen. I'm not going to bomb a building or break the law to prove to a little uneducated asshat like you that I'm a "man" (that really illustrates your maturity level).

Instead, I expose the stupidity (like I have with you here) and work to get law abiding citizens elected to Congress to undo the Dumbocrat communism.

By the way, didn't you start this thread by saying there was NO "loss of freedoms". Now you're admitting that people were forced to "bend over and take it"? Oops! Looks like someone just got owned again...

There were no loss of freedoms and if you had half an ounce of intelligence you would have picked up by now that I displayed to you that you would have purchased insurance anyway, mandate or not...just like you would breathe oxygen, mandated or not. You're losing nothing...except for what little dignity you had.

You're serious, aren't you?

The freedom of choice was lost. The freedom to choose not to have maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental) included in one's coverage because they are a 55 year old, single guy with no kids. The freedom to choose to keep your individual catastrophic health insurance plan that you have had for years was taken away. Why? Because it wasn't (un)aca compliant ... it didn't include coverage for maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental). The freedom to choose a plan that fit one's needs, rather than a plan that fit someone else's needs, was taken away. The freedom to keep healthy and pay a lower rate is gone. Now people with pre-existing conditions don't pay more for their coverage, even though they are a higher risk.

You're another stupid leftist who can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[RDD_1210]

I'm a law abiding citizen. I'm not going to bomb a building or break the law to prove to a little uneducated asshat like you that I'm a "man" (that really illustrates your maturity level).

Instead, I expose the stupidity (like I have with you here) and work to get law abiding citizens elected to Congress to undo the Dumbocrat communism.

By the way, didn't you start this thread by saying there was NO "loss of freedoms". Now you're admitting that people were forced to "bend over and take it"? Oops! Looks like someone just got owned again...

There were no loss of freedoms and if you had half an ounce of intelligence you would have picked up by now that I displayed to you that you would have purchased insurance anyway, mandate or not...just like you would breathe oxygen, mandated or not. You're losing nothing...except for what little dignity you had.

You're serious, aren't you?

The freedom of choice was lost. The freedom to choose not to have maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental) included in one's coverage because they are a 55 year old, single guy with no kids. The freedom to choose to keep your individual catastrophic health insurance plan that you have had for years was taken away. Why? Because it wasn't (un)aca compliant ... it didn't include coverage for maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental). The freedom to choose a plan that fit one's needs, rather than a plan that fit someone else's needs, was taken away. The freedom to keep healthy and pay a lower rate is gone. Now people with pre-existing conditions don't pay more for their coverage, even though they are a higher risk.

You're another stupid leftist who can't see the forest for the trees.

News flash, insurance plans have always and will always cover services that not everyone needs. Until the day comes out where there is a a-la-carte insurance plan, this is a ridiculous and invalid talking point.

Like I said, no freedoms were lost.

 

[Zoom-boing]

There were no loss of freedoms and if you had half an ounce of intelligence you would have picked up by now that I displayed to you that you would have purchased insurance anyway, mandate or not...just like you would breathe oxygen, mandated or not. You're losing nothing...except for what little dignity you had.

You're serious, aren't you?

The freedom of choice was lost. The freedom to choose not to have maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental) included in one's coverage because they are a 55 year old, single guy with no kids. The freedom to choose to keep your individual catastrophic health insurance plan that you have had for years was taken away. Why? Because it wasn't (un)aca compliant ... it didn't include coverage for maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental). The freedom to choose a plan that fit one's needs, rather than a plan that fit someone else's needs, was taken away. The freedom to keep healthy and pay a lower rate is gone. Now people with pre-existing conditions don't pay more for their coverage, even though they are a higher risk.

You're another stupid leftist who can't see the forest for the trees.

News flash, insurance plans have always and will always cover services that not everyone needs. Until the day comes out where there is a a-la-carte insurance plan, this is a ridiculous and invalid talking point.

Like I said, no freedoms were lost.

With individual plans you most certainly could choose what you wanted to be covered. Not any more, since obama took that choice away. Freedoms lost. But do keep spinning and propping up obama.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

I can't believe someone would actually ask such a stupid question. Wait...I can. You.

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

Correct. I have a close family member who fought Leukemia and the bill was over 480k for the treatments. That person is in remission right now.

 

[RDD_1210]

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

Correct. I have a close family member who fought Leukemia and the bill was over 480k for the treatments. That person is in remission right now.

Rottweiler says this isn't true.

 

[P@triot]

Super Bowl champ Baltimore Ravens getting paid $130,000 to promote Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com

Can we assume you oppose NASCAR sponsorships by the military?

Well lets start with the fact that I flat out oppose NASCAR...

But back to your point, can we compare apples-to-apples for this discussion? Since the draft was abolished years ago, the federal government must recruit men & women into the military. That does require a certain amount of money to be spent (how much and in what ways are a whole different discussion). That is drastically different from spending tax payer money to promote something that was signed into law 3-4 years ago. Wouldn't you agree?

It clearly illustrates that the Dumbocrats know the American people do not want this and that they feel the need to propagandize it.

 

[P@triot]

I can't believe someone would actually ask such a stupid question. Wait...I can. You.

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

It's a nice story SW, but it doesn't change the fact that the medical bill for the average uninsured person is less than a new car - and I've proven that with a link already. That's a far cry from RDD's outrageous (and frankly juvenile) $500,000 figure.

 

[P@triot]

Another post where you refuse to lay out a basic payment plan. It's not a difficult request, yet you refuse to answer. Your excuses are lame and your viewpoint has been exposed as selfish and flawed.

I can't post a payment plan with 1/37th of the information required to create the plan stupid...

Do houses have payment plans? Do automobiles have payment plans? Do dentists have payment plans?!?! So why is this any different?!?!

Why can't you answer [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]? Too stupid?

What information are you missing to put together a hypothetical payment plan? Give me one example of a critical piece of information that is preventing you from answering.

What is their mortgage payments? What is their car payment? What is their credit card debt? Do they pay child support? Alimony? What are their income taxes? Property taxes? State taxes? City taxes?

The lists continues (you need to add the other 30 on your own now junior). The fact that you have to ask this is a glaring indication of the fact that I'm dealing with a child. You've clearly never signed for a loan in your life if you believe that TWO criteria (their annual salary vs. the cost of the medical bill) are used to determine a payment plan.

Watching you flail around wildly, desperately grasping at one immature argument to another, because you're pissed off that I've owned you in this debate with facts is equal parts comical and sad.

I mean, you started this thread off by declaring the Constitution was created to limit the power of citizens...(8 pages later, I still can't stop laughing about that). What more needs to be said?

 

[P@triot]

There were no loss of freedoms and if you had half an ounce of intelligence you would have picked up by now that I displayed to you that you would have purchased insurance anyway, mandate or not...just like you would breathe oxygen, mandated or not. You're losing nothing...except for what little dignity you had.

You're serious, aren't you?

The freedom of choice was lost. The freedom to choose not to have maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental) included in one's coverage because they are a 55 year old, single guy with no kids. The freedom to choose to keep your individual catastrophic health insurance plan that you have had for years was taken away. Why? Because it wasn't (un)aca compliant ... it didn't include coverage for maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental). The freedom to choose a plan that fit one's needs, rather than a plan that fit someone else's needs, was taken away. The freedom to keep healthy and pay a lower rate is gone. Now people with pre-existing conditions don't pay more for their coverage, even though they are a higher risk.

You're another stupid leftist who can't see the forest for the trees.

News flash, insurance plans have always and will always cover services that not everyone needs. Until the day comes out where there is a a-la-carte insurance plan, this is a ridiculous and invalid talking point.

Like I said, no freedoms were lost.

I can't believe you went back to the well on this after you already had your ass handed to you...

Can you please explain how freedoms were not lost since I'm now forced to do something which I previously had the freedom to chose whether or not to do it? Please?

 

[emilynghiem]

I can't believe someone would actually ask such a stupid question. Wait...I can. You.

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

Hi RDD Seawitch and Rottweiler:
Yes, I agree current trends in placating SYMPTOMS of cancer such as with chemotherapy which doesn't address the root cause or cure or prevention of cancer itself,
WILL run up your bills.

So instead of letting insurance companies and these treatment providers make all those millions off such expensive treatments after the fact,

why not promote FREE and EFFECTIVE measures known to reduce, prevent and/or cure cancer and tumors by addressing the root cause? Spiritual healing and other forms of natural healing have worked to either cure the disease or at least reduce the COST of more expensive treatments.

coudl it be that (1) insurance and service providers wouldn't make as much money?
(2) govt cannot impose, mandate or regulate cures for cancer that involve voluntary spiritual therapy since the generational forgiveness process works by free choice

why not?

if govt can impose mandates forcing people to pay for insurance who don't believe in that

why not force everyone to go through spiritual healing to cut costs of health care
so it doesn't waste taxpayer's money

it makes no sense to punish charity hospitals and volunteer programs
just to try to control everything through a collusion of govt with private insurance
so the money goes through them to try to manage everything.

govt cannot manage spiritual healing, and all medical treatment is affected by it
since all human beings are body/mind/spirit and need treatment of all three levels to heal

 

[JoeNormal]

Hahahahaahahahahah. I had to quote this so you can't try and delete this in the future.

Fuck, you people are pure comedy gold.

Why would I delete something that is accurate and exposes you for the willfully ignorant serf that you are?

Tell me...what would you like to breathe instead of oxygen?

Probably Rush Limbaugh's intestinal gas.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Come on [MENTION=41423]NoTeaPartyPleez[/MENTION] - tell me your all of your medical bills combined for you entire life have even come close to $500,000. Please? I would kill to hear that lie! We could spend decades laughing at you over that bullshit. Come on kitty-kitty-kitty... tell us the lie kitty!

Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those with private insurance reported average medical bills of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those who had health insurance but lost it in the course of their illness reported average medical bills of $22,568.

The average medical bill - for the uninsured - is $26,971. Less than the price of a car!!! I love humiliating idiots like [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]. Sorry drama queen, $500,000 is more unrealistic than a unicorn!

And a payment plant would easily cover that cost. Just admit you're a fuck'n parsite looking for your fellow citizen to pay your way through life.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/medical-bills-cause-most-bankruptcies/

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

Correct. I have a close family member who fought Leukemia and the bill was over 480k for the treatments. That person is in remission right now.

I have a family member who died of leukemia. Bill was well over $500K. Catastrophic injury or disease can go over "lifetime limit" in no time.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Cancer will take you to 500K in no time.

High cost of care becomes cancer's growing burden ? USATODAY.com

Correct. I have a close family member who fought Leukemia and the bill was over 480k for the treatments. That person is in remission right now.

Rottweiler says this isn't true.

When was the last time Rottweiler was right about anything?

Medicare took more than 2 years to get it working. The rw's will whine but ObamaCare will make it. Apparently, there are thousands signing up in the state programs and that will grow.