The First Nakba Map...in Hebrew

What's the likely fate of a nation state where 80% of its citizens celebrate Independence on the same day that the other 20% mourn their loss of identity and self-determination?
Why? The latter still retain an identity of major settlers from the hood. It's that that they still want to enlarge their holdings by walking into a jewish home and taking it over that counts, of course.
While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?
 
Imagine how US public opinion would shift if Zochot was featured regularly in the corporate press?
Would that be same were the Nation of Aztlan featured regularly in the corporate press?
Ask your hommie Rothschild about that:

"According to the Anti-Defamation League, La Voz de Aztlán is published by the Nation of Aztlán, a group it labels as antisemitic.[4] However, the publisher of La Voz de Aztlán has denied having 'any leadership position within the Nation of Aztlan.'[5]

"The SPLC and the Anti-Defamation League label Voz de Aztlán as antisemitic. Voz de Aztlán editorials contain statements in which the forementioned organizations have interpreted as anti-semitic, such as 'The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund are offshoots of the Rothschild Jewish Banking Dynasty.

"International Jews also control most of the World Media which they utilize to brainwash the masses'.[6] When a La Voz de Aztlán editorial criticizes a Jew, his ethnicity is often emphasized.[7]"

Voz de Aztlan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Why did five Arab armies "invade" Palestine in 1948?
To prevent greedy Zionists from stealing any more Arab land or drive the Jews into the sea?
Among the multiple overlapping narratives that define Israel few have rivaled al-Nakba as an inspiration for constructing an official authoritative narrative of a Jewish-Zionist only national identity. A few facts:


"Zochrot presents the first Nakba map in Hebrew.
It includes the localities in the country that were destroyed between the beginning of Zionist colonization and the 1967 war.

The map shows:
678 Palestinian localities that Israel destroyed during the Nakba: 220 of them with less than 100 inhabitants, 428 localities with 100 - 3,000 people, 30 towns and cities with more than 3,000 people;
22 Jewish localities destroyed in 1948 (some of which were re-established that same year);
14 Palestinian localities still existing today, whose inhabitants were expelled temporarily partially during the Nakba;
62 Palestinian localities destroyed during Zionist colonization of the country before 1948;
3 Jewish localities destroyed before 1948 and not re-established;
3 Palestinian localities destroyed in the 1967 war..."

http://www.zochrot.org/en/content/nakba-map

Perhaps they are sorry now they've started this bloody war?:eusa_whistle:
650,000 Jews started "this bloody war" in 1948 when they inflicted their nation upon twice as many Arabs in Palestine.
 
Why did five Arab armies "invade" Palestine in 1948?
To prevent greedy Zionists from stealing any more Arab land or drive the Jews into the sea?
Among the multiple overlapping narratives that define Israel few have rivaled al-Nakba as an inspiration for constructing an official authoritative narrative of a Jewish-Zionist only national identity. A few facts:


"Zochrot presents the first Nakba map in Hebrew.
It includes the localities in the country that were destroyed between the beginning of Zionist colonization and the 1967 war.

The map shows:
678 Palestinian localities that Israel destroyed during the Nakba: 220 of them with less than 100 inhabitants, 428 localities with 100 - 3,000 people, 30 towns and cities with more than 3,000 people;
22 Jewish localities destroyed in 1948 (some of which were re-established that same year);
14 Palestinian localities still existing today, whose inhabitants were expelled temporarily partially during the Nakba;
62 Palestinian localities destroyed during Zionist colonization of the country before 1948;
3 Jewish localities destroyed before 1948 and not re-established;
3 Palestinian localities destroyed in the 1967 war..."

http://www.zochrot.org/en/content/nakba-map

Perhaps they are sorry now they've started this bloody war?:eusa_whistle:
650,000 Jews started "this bloody war" in 1948 when they inflicted their nation upon twice as many Arabs in Palestine.
Twice as many?

Then why didn't they win?

Add another 50,000-80,000 soldiers from the five invading Arab countries, and all their air forces and armored brigades and the like, and the Israelis were really overwhelmed, with respect to fighting strength.

And the Jews STILL held-out and won a country for themselves.

Any collective body which is THAT incompetent when holding every early advantage and overwhelming numerical superiority against a rag-tag amateurish challenger, especially when attacking an Infant State, does not DESERVE to win, and is, largely, an object of ridicule and contemptuous laughter around the world, outside the domain of their own co-religionists.

Nature has DE-selected them for our purposes here.
 
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"So why did Israel decide to rejoin this tragi-comic fraud? Mostly because of pressure from Germany, which apparently committed to rectify the UNHRC’s discriminatory policy toward Israel. But how can Germany reasonably claim to act against the fraudulent and cynical politicization of human rights by the UN and by NGOs, when German political parties contribute to that very farce by funding NGOs that defame Israel and advocate the dismembering of the Jewish state in the name of human rights?" So why are some Jews afraid of human rights?
Non sequitur to the quote.
Maybe.
Try this one:


"The German Left Party, via its Rosa Luxemburg Fundation, funds Zohrot, an NGO that advocates the 'Palestinian right of return' whose implementation would turn Israel into a binational state with a Jewish minority.

"The German political parties and their foundations are obviously entitled to give money to whomever they wish. But when that money goes to political NGOs that disingenuously use the 'human rights' magic formula to disguise their actual agenda of demonizing Israel and of undoing Israel’s Jewish majority, then the German government loses its credibility."

Germany loses credibility because Jews in Israel are afraid to grant human rights to all those living under Jewish laws, is that it?

http://calevbenyefuneh.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/when-it-comes-to-israel-and-human
 
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Perhaps they are sorry now they've started this bloody war?:eusa_whistle:
650,000 Jews started "this bloody war" in 1948 when they inflicted their nation upon twice as many Arabs in Palestine.
Twice as many?

Then why didn't they win?

Add another 50,000-80,000 soldiers from the five invading Arab countries, and all their air forces and armored brigades and the like, and the Israelis were really overwhelmed, with respect to fighting strength.

And the Jews STILL held-out and won a country for themselves.

Any collective body which is THAT incompetent when holding every early advantage and overwhelming numerical superiority against a rag-tag amateurish challenger, especially when attacking an Infant State, does not DESERVE to win, and is, largely, an object of ridicule and contemptuous laughter around the world, outside the domain of their own co-religionists.

Nature has DE-selected them for our purposes here.
You find it remarkable 115,000 Jews won against 70,000 Arabs?
Why don't you look real hard and find a link for that "overwhelming numerical superiority" kosher bs of yours?
Nature had no more to do with the selection of Jews in Palestine than it did with Protestants in Northern Ireland. England needed colonies and found immigrants it could pay to form a wedge between the indigenous population and rich, royal whores in the City of London.

1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
650,000 Jews started "this bloody war" in 1948 when they inflicted their nation upon twice as many Arabs in Palestine.
Twice as many?

Then why didn't they win?

Add another 50,000-80,000 soldiers from the five invading Arab countries, and all their air forces and armored brigades and the like, and the Israelis were really overwhelmed, with respect to fighting strength.

And the Jews STILL held-out and won a country for themselves.

Any collective body which is THAT incompetent when holding every early advantage and overwhelming numerical superiority against a rag-tag amateurish challenger, especially when attacking an Infant State, does not DESERVE to win, and is, largely, an object of ridicule and contemptuous laughter around the world, outside the domain of their own co-religionists.

Nature has DE-selected them for our purposes here.
You find it remarkable 115,000 Jews won against 70,000 Arabs?
Why don't you look real hard and find a link for that "overwhelming numerical superiority" kosher bs of yours?
Nature had no more to do with the selection of Jews in Palestine than it did with Protestants in Northern Ireland. England needed colonies and found immigrants it could pay to form a wedge between the indigenous population and rich, royal whores in the City of London.

1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

George, since by now the readers realize that many things are put on Wikipedia which have nothing to do with the true facts. Therefore, can you pull up for us some encyclopedia which will verify the facts being shown on Wikipedia? It would be much appreciated.
 
Twice as many?

Then why didn't they win?

Add another 50,000-80,000 soldiers from the five invading Arab countries, and all their air forces and armored brigades and the like, and the Israelis were really overwhelmed, with respect to fighting strength.

And the Jews STILL held-out and won a country for themselves.

Any collective body which is THAT incompetent when holding every early advantage and overwhelming numerical superiority against a rag-tag amateurish challenger, especially when attacking an Infant State, does not DESERVE to win, and is, largely, an object of ridicule and contemptuous laughter around the world, outside the domain of their own co-religionists.

Nature has DE-selected them for our purposes here.
You find it remarkable 115,000 Jews won against 70,000 Arabs?
Why don't you look real hard and find a link for that "overwhelming numerical superiority" kosher bs of yours?
Nature had no more to do with the selection of Jews in Palestine than it did with Protestants in Northern Ireland. England needed colonies and found immigrants it could pay to form a wedge between the indigenous population and rich, royal whores in the City of London.

1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

George, since by now the readers realize that many things are put on Wikipedia which have nothing to do with the true facts. Therefore, can you pull up for us some encyclopedia which will verify the facts being shown on Wikipedia? It would be much appreciated.
Why don't you search out a few "true facts" that conflict with Wikipedia, Sally?
 
What's the likely fate of a nation state where 80% of its citizens celebrate Independence on the same day that the other 20% mourn their loss of identity and self-determination?
Why? The latter still retain an identity of major settlers from the hood. It's that that they still want to enlarge their holdings by walking into a jewish home and taking it over that counts, of course.
While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?

Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?
 
Why? The latter still retain an identity of major settlers from the hood. It's that that they still want to enlarge their holdings by walking into a jewish home and taking it over that counts, of course.
While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?

Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?

It appears that many people need a scapegoat for their unfortunate circumstances in life, so for George it is the Jews as it is for the other anti-Semites. Since George has never made a comment about what the Muslims are doing to innocent people, not even when it happens to involve other innocent Muslims, the word which comes to mind for George is dhimmitude
 
While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?

Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?

It appears that many people need a scapegoat for their unfortunate circumstances in life, so for George it is the Jews as it is for the other anti-Semites. Since George has never made a comment about what the Muslims are doing to innocent people, not even when it happens to involve other innocent Muslims, the word which comes to mind for George is dhimmitude
The word that comes to mind for Sally is "hapless"

"So at the end of the Second World War, the British realized, as the system of protectorates in the Middle East began to unravel, that a different strategy was needed. Not having been able to transplant Western values in the populations of any Middle Eastern country, it became apparent that only another British colony, populated by people of European origin, could ever hope to succeed.

"Thus the British continued the duplicitous diplomacy of making promises it never intended to keep, concocted a racist Balfour Declaration, and sought to use the Jews of Europe as its colonists to establish a Western style state in Palestine called Israel..."

"But the creation of Israel hasnÂ’t worked out too well either.

"The establishment of the state of Israel is just another chapter in the centuries old war on Islam, and Israel could not have survived without the continuous financial and military support it receives from the West, especially the United States.

"If the Israelis were historians, they would be wary of that support. The West, especially the United States and Britain, have a history of abandoning allies whenever it suits their own interests.

"Ask anyone from the string of governments America supported in South Vietnam. Ask Hosni Mubarak. Resuscitate the shah of Iran and ask him. After having been put on IranÂ’s throne by an American and British coup, when he began to exercise some independence he, too, lost American support.

"Ask Saddam Hussein; he was once an American darling too.

"America and the West will abandon Israel just as soon as doing so furthers their interests. Rosemary Hollis, Middle East analyst at City University in London has said, 'There is a deep-rooted belief . . . that Britain is always up to something, is never passive and always devious.'

"The Israelis should view it that way too."

Israel ? Just Another Hapless British Colony | Global Research
 
Why? The latter still retain an identity of major settlers from the hood. It's that that they still want to enlarge their holdings by walking into a jewish home and taking it over that counts, of course.
While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?

Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?
Haven't you ever wondered why it is over thousands of years and hundreds of different locations a relatively small number of Jews consistently engage in behaviors that result in millions of Jews being maimed, murdered, and displaced, Marg? What's your best guess?
 
Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?

It appears that many people need a scapegoat for their unfortunate circumstances in life, so for George it is the Jews as it is for the other anti-Semites. Since George has never made a comment about what the Muslims are doing to innocent people, not even when it happens to involve other innocent Muslims, the word which comes to mind for George is dhimmitude
The word that comes to mind for Sally is "hapless"

"So at the end of the Second World War, the British realized, as the system of protectorates in the Middle East began to unravel, that a different strategy was needed. Not having been able to transplant Western values in the populations of any Middle Eastern country, it became apparent that only another British colony, populated by people of European origin, could ever hope to succeed.

"Thus the British continued the duplicitous diplomacy of making promises it never intended to keep, concocted a racist Balfour Declaration, and sought to use the Jews of Europe as its colonists to establish a Western style state in Palestine called Israel..."

"But the creation of Israel hasnÂ’t worked out too well either.

"The establishment of the state of Israel is just another chapter in the centuries old war on Islam, and Israel could not have survived without the continuous financial and military support it receives from the West, especially the United States.

"If the Israelis were historians, they would be wary of that support. The West, especially the United States and Britain, have a history of abandoning allies whenever it suits their own interests.

"Ask anyone from the string of governments America supported in South Vietnam. Ask Hosni Mubarak. Resuscitate the shah of Iran and ask him. After having been put on IranÂ’s throne by an American and British coup, when he began to exercise some independence he, too, lost American support.

"Ask Saddam Hussein; he was once an American darling too.

"America and the West will abandon Israel just as soon as doing so furthers their interests. Rosemary Hollis, Middle East analyst at City University in London has said, 'There is a deep-rooted belief . . . that Britain is always up to something, is never passive and always devious.'

"The Israelis should view it that way too."

Israel ? Just Another Hapless British Colony | Global Research

George, George, not only does the word dhimmitude come to mind for you but hopeless also. You might feel good about yourself being the leading Cut and Paster here, but you are a hopeless character. Have you even gotten out today? Your using Jews as a scapegoat can be put aside to get some fresh air. Whatever would you do if you couldn't Cut and Paste, especially sites which fit your mind set? By the way, George, how about you making some comment about what the Muslims are up to? Is your only obessession about the Jews, and you really don't care what the Muslims do. If they murder each other in the thousands, if you couldn't pull up something to blame the Jews, you wouldn't even bother. George must think he is fooling the intelligent viewer, but he really isn't.
 
650,000 Jews started "this bloody war" in 1948 when they inflicted their nation upon twice as many Arabs in Palestine.
Twice as many?

Then why didn't they win?

Add another 50,000-80,000 soldiers from the five invading Arab countries, and all their air forces and armored brigades and the like, and the Israelis were really overwhelmed, with respect to fighting strength.

And the Jews STILL held-out and won a country for themselves.

Any collective body which is THAT incompetent when holding every early advantage and overwhelming numerical superiority against a rag-tag amateurish challenger, especially when attacking an Infant State, does not DESERVE to win, and is, largely, an object of ridicule and contemptuous laughter around the world, outside the domain of their own co-religionists.

Nature has DE-selected them for our purposes here.
You find it remarkable 115,000 Jews won against 70,000 Arabs?
Why don't you look real hard and find a link for that "overwhelming numerical superiority" kosher bs of yours?
Nature had no more to do with the selection of Jews in Palestine than it did with Protestants in Northern Ireland. England needed colonies and found immigrants it could pay to form a wedge between the indigenous population and rich, royal whores in the City of London.

1948 Palestine war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The British had prohibited the importation of arms into Mandate Palestine for years prior to the 1948 Israeli Declaration of Statehood and Independence.

When the British abandoned Palestine at the termination of the Mandate, the British turned over all their military bases and the arms that they were not taking with them, to Arab irregular militias and the Arab Legion; arming the Arabs while barring the Jews from obtaining weapons, except through smuggling, right up the minute that the Brits departed.

The Brits sided with the Arabs rather than the Jews, as they left Palestine.

Far better armed, with far more population, and help from well-equipped and well-trained neighbor-armies, and in possession of British forts and bases, the Arabs should have won.

The Jews of Palestine fielded an approximate 115,000 warm bodies to staff the Israeli 'Army' during the 1948-1949 War of Independence, which included all logistics and support personnel... desk-huggers, truck drivers, supply clerks, paper-pushers, female fighters, locally-bound militia units, kibbutz guards, etc.

They fielded these 115,000 from a population of 650,000 - according to your own numbers.

And, according to your own numbers, the Muslim-Arabs of Palestine numbered some 1,300,000 souls (650,000 x 2 [twice that number]).

A Palestinian Army-Militia should then have numbered twice that of the Jews - or, 115,000 X 2 = 330,000 Palestinian soldiers (including all support troops), if the Arabs were as brave and committed as the Jews were.

Now, when we add to that 330,000 - another 70,000 Muslim-Arab troops pouring in from Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and Egypt - and backed by Saudi Arabia, Libya, Morocco, Yemen, etc., you should have had something like 400,00 Arabs (330,000 + 70,000) against 115,000 Jews with NO Air Force and NO Armored Formations, yes?

Are you saying that you did not have 400,000 Arabs mustered to fight the Jews?

I mean, the neighboring Arab countries did THEIR part, sending 70,000 first-rate and highly trained and excellently equipped soldiers, complete with substantial Air Power and Armored Brigades and all the rest, right?

If there was a deficiency of numbers favoring the Israelis, then, where-oh-where did this deficiency stem from?

Must have been the PALESTINIANS who failed to summon the courage and resources to field enough men to win the day, alongside their Arab neighbor-benefactors.

Of course, in truth, they were too busy running, weren't they?

It wasn't 'The Nakba' - it was 'The Big Skeddadle'...
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And against what (at that time) was the worlds' crappiest, least-equipped, most poorly-trained Militia Army...
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Just like 'Incompetents', a people who will not muster the courage in sufficient numbers to defend their own lands against a similarly (actually, even worse-) challenged adversary, do not win battles in the field.

They lose their land.

If you won't fight for your homes - even when you receive a windfall and huge infusion of troops and war-assets from your neighbors - then you do not deserve to win.

Again, Nature has DE-selected them... for one reason or another.

And, of course, a highly-skilled and professionally-trained Egyptian or Syrian or Iraqi or Jordanian or Lebanese soldier should have been worth a half-dozen or more poorly equipped and poorly trained Jewish militiamen...

And they weren't.

Again... gross incompetency contributed to that round of Natural Selection.

Thereby explaining the contemptuous and raucous laughter of much of the non-Muslim world.

It's a pathetically poor showing and track record for those incompetent and ineffective fools.

No WONDER they've been a laughing-stock, ever since!
 
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"...Imagine Israeli public opinion when the US and England ...abandon support for Israel, when it is longer in the interests of either country to do so..."
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Good one... really funny stuff!
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Tell that to the South Vietnamese, Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein and Manuel Noriega.

All US ally's and all abandoned by the US when it was no longer in our interests to support.
 
"...Imagine Israeli public opinion when the US and England ...abandon support for Israel, when it is longer in the interests of either country to do so..."
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Good one... really funny stuff!
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Tell that to the South Vietnamese, Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein and Manuel Noriega.

All US ally's and all abandoned by the US when it was no longer in our interests to support.

None of those are Israel
 
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While the former came from beyond the Pale, so to speak?

Georgie - while you can't refrain even once from making cheap and disgusting 'shots' like the above BS filth, why should anyone BUT another bigot pay any serious attention to your continual attacks upon Israel, Jews, and Judaism?
Haven't you ever wondered why it is over thousands of years and hundreds of different locations a relatively small number of Jews consistently engage in behaviors that result in millions of Jews being maimed, murdered, and displaced, Marg? What's your best guess?

Because they have been a minority wherever they lived, and if you stop focusing on ONLY the Jews, you would see that s lot of minority groups, religions have recieved the same treatment as the Jews. The main difference is that the Jews survived all these years. What does that tell you ?


BTW, I just love your Nazi logic: "Since the Jews were persecuted and killed wherever they lived throughout history, they MUST be evil people, and still be evil ! "
 
"constructing an official authoritative narrative of a Jewish-Zionist only national identity" is a phrase from the OP which hasn't been proven as a fact: it remains purely an opinion of some extremists.

I'm fine with hating the British for their duplicity - but blaming the Israelis for what the British did is ludicrous. And no amount of wrong-doing elsewhere exonerates the Arab League nations from their own conspiracy and collusion to commit ethnic cleansing upon the hapless Jewish minority from whom they stole everything before ejecting them -for no other reason than that they were Jews as well as Arabs.
WTF do you mean "stole everything"? How do you steal from someone who isn't even there? And since indigenous arabs owned 90% of the land in Palestine for the last 2000 years, what was stolen?


The whole 'racist Zionist' canard rings very hollow while such demonstrations of Arab League perfidy remain completely ignored, or worse still, when apologists attempt to 'justify' said ethnic cleansing.
Care to eat those words? Had any crow lately?

Just say the word and I'll feed you a plate!


Anyone who seriously thinks that Jews should care about the purported 'Nakba' needs to first acknowledge that the Arab League nations were no less intent on 'ethnic cleansing' and presenting a 'homogenized' narrative than 'Zionists' are being accused of.
Listen idiot, Zionist genocide is not dependent on the existence of arab genocide.

You can have one without the other.

And the FACTS, the numbers of the remaining 'minority' communities, bear witness that the 'Zionist ethnic cleansing effort' was far from effective.
So you admit the Zionist attempt to commit genocide against the Pals?


One further wonders if ALL the 20% of Israeli CITIZENS who are Arab Muslims or Christians actually DO believe in the 'Nakba' narrative......
It's a little hard to deny 750,000 arabs driven from their land by jewish terrorists.
 
"constructing an official authoritative narrative of a Jewish-Zionist only national identity" is a phrase from the OP which hasn't been proven as a fact: it remains purely an opinion of some extremists.

I'm fine with hating the British for their duplicity - but blaming the Israelis for what the British did is ludicrous. And no amount of wrong-doing elsewhere exonerates the Arab League nations from their own conspiracy and collusion to commit ethnic cleansing upon the hapless Jewish minority from whom they stole everything before ejecting them -for no other reason than that they were Jews as well as Arabs.
WTF do you mean "stole everything"? How do you steal from someone who isn't even there? And since indigenous arabs owned 90% of the land in Palestine for the last 2000 years, what was stolen?


The whole 'racist Zionist' canard rings very hollow while such demonstrations of Arab League perfidy remain completely ignored, or worse still, when apologists attempt to 'justify' said ethnic cleansing.
Care to eat those words? Had any crow lately?

Just say the word and I'll feed you a plate!


Listen idiot, Zionist genocide is not dependent on the existence of arab genocide.

You can have one without the other.

And the FACTS, the numbers of the remaining 'minority' communities, bear witness that the 'Zionist ethnic cleansing effort' was far from effective.
So you admit the Zionist attempt to commit genocide against the Pals?


One further wonders if ALL the 20% of Israeli CITIZENS who are Arab Muslims or Christians actually DO believe in the 'Nakba' narrative......
It's a little hard to deny 750,000 arabs driven from their land by jewish terrorists.

Actually, not all 750 000 were expelled. Unless you could prove that ?
 
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