Captain Creeper
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I understand both sides of the argument. I remain opposed to eliminating the filibuster, and will explain why.
First, we all know what the filibuster is and why it is used. The Democrats here do not, but the rest of us do. The problem we are encountering in the recent (last 20 years or so) of zero-sum, absolutist politics, which is to some degree beyond what was anticipated by the Founders. Yes, back in the Founders' day, politics was a full-contact sport. But at the end of the day, everyone was still American. Years later, we experienced various waves of immigration (lawful immigration). But that was fine because everyone desired to assimilate into American society . We all remained Americans first and foremost notwithstanding our national origin. But, starting in the 1960s, and then reaching crescendo today we have people who first identify not as American, but as Muslim, DemSoc, etc... Moreover, because of the money and influence in politics today, people will act against the interest of the nation and instead out of self-interest. No longer are minority rights respected, nor our constitutional electoral system, or American tradition and values. We are now mired in a nightmare of anti-American, self-interest, collectivism.
The filibuster is a legislative tool in the Senate that is used among American gentlemen of honor. It is essential to minority rights, freedoms, and liberties. Without it, we are at the mercy of mob rule (i.e., simple majority) that will shift with the wind. This fosters civil, political, and economic uncertainty and volatility, none of which are desirable. Yet, it is but a procedural rule and it can be changed. I here note that the great father of filibuster degradation, and mob rule, is Dirty Harry Reid, a vile and contemptable Dem creature who falls asleep at night uttering the words, "**** America, **** America right up its asshole!" But I digress.
We should not eliminate something like the filibuster, which is a longtime institution in the Senate for no good reason. In my opinion, just because you want to get a bill passed but cannot get 60 votes is no good reason to eliminate it. Neither is not getting your judicial nominees confirmed. Instead, we should deal with the obstruction in other ways, preferably at the polls. We do not want simple majority rule.
As I see it, the only legitimate reason to eliminate the filibuster right now is this: The next time the Dems are in control of the Senate (and they will be one day), they are just going to nuke it anyway. So, we may as well do it now to get through what we can while we can. The fatal flaw in this, though, is that they (the Dems) will just undo whatever we do today by simple majority vote (assuming they have a majority in the House and a man or woman in the White House. Make no mistake about it: Dems are not good people and they only like America if they can get something out of her. Otherwise, they have no use for her and are more than willing to throw her under the bus and give socialism-communism-authoritarianism a try. Dems today largely do not understand history and have very malleable brains.
So, no, I do not support eliminating the filibuster, while simultaneously acknowledging that my position is based solely on principal. I love Trump. He is a great leader. But he is just wrong on the count.
My suggestion, which may not work because of the filibuster, is to pass a law enshrining the filibuster in federal law so that it cannot be just willy-nilly eliminated by the majority party. It may require paying off a handful of Dem Senators for votes and letting some tranny pedos run loose, but it is worth it in my opinion. Simple majority = mob rule, and our Bill of Rights will be nullified under mob rule. The left has the will do dismantle most, if not all, of our constitution, and they get more rabid by the day.
Just about everything the left, including Dems, does in the name of "democracy" tends to eliminate minority rights and institute a system that runs by simple majority rule. This is what they mean by "democracy". When you take the term "democracy" as the Democrats mean it, the biggest enemy of their democracy has always been our Founding Fathers, as they went to great lengths to protect the rights, freedoms, and liberties of ALL INDIVIDUALS regardless of what party holds power. When reduced to this, we are looking again at the basic INDIVIDUAL VS. COLLECTIVE dichotomy.
First, we all know what the filibuster is and why it is used. The Democrats here do not, but the rest of us do. The problem we are encountering in the recent (last 20 years or so) of zero-sum, absolutist politics, which is to some degree beyond what was anticipated by the Founders. Yes, back in the Founders' day, politics was a full-contact sport. But at the end of the day, everyone was still American. Years later, we experienced various waves of immigration (lawful immigration). But that was fine because everyone desired to assimilate into American society . We all remained Americans first and foremost notwithstanding our national origin. But, starting in the 1960s, and then reaching crescendo today we have people who first identify not as American, but as Muslim, DemSoc, etc... Moreover, because of the money and influence in politics today, people will act against the interest of the nation and instead out of self-interest. No longer are minority rights respected, nor our constitutional electoral system, or American tradition and values. We are now mired in a nightmare of anti-American, self-interest, collectivism.
The filibuster is a legislative tool in the Senate that is used among American gentlemen of honor. It is essential to minority rights, freedoms, and liberties. Without it, we are at the mercy of mob rule (i.e., simple majority) that will shift with the wind. This fosters civil, political, and economic uncertainty and volatility, none of which are desirable. Yet, it is but a procedural rule and it can be changed. I here note that the great father of filibuster degradation, and mob rule, is Dirty Harry Reid, a vile and contemptable Dem creature who falls asleep at night uttering the words, "**** America, **** America right up its asshole!" But I digress.
We should not eliminate something like the filibuster, which is a longtime institution in the Senate for no good reason. In my opinion, just because you want to get a bill passed but cannot get 60 votes is no good reason to eliminate it. Neither is not getting your judicial nominees confirmed. Instead, we should deal with the obstruction in other ways, preferably at the polls. We do not want simple majority rule.
As I see it, the only legitimate reason to eliminate the filibuster right now is this: The next time the Dems are in control of the Senate (and they will be one day), they are just going to nuke it anyway. So, we may as well do it now to get through what we can while we can. The fatal flaw in this, though, is that they (the Dems) will just undo whatever we do today by simple majority vote (assuming they have a majority in the House and a man or woman in the White House. Make no mistake about it: Dems are not good people and they only like America if they can get something out of her. Otherwise, they have no use for her and are more than willing to throw her under the bus and give socialism-communism-authoritarianism a try. Dems today largely do not understand history and have very malleable brains.
So, no, I do not support eliminating the filibuster, while simultaneously acknowledging that my position is based solely on principal. I love Trump. He is a great leader. But he is just wrong on the count.
My suggestion, which may not work because of the filibuster, is to pass a law enshrining the filibuster in federal law so that it cannot be just willy-nilly eliminated by the majority party. It may require paying off a handful of Dem Senators for votes and letting some tranny pedos run loose, but it is worth it in my opinion. Simple majority = mob rule, and our Bill of Rights will be nullified under mob rule. The left has the will do dismantle most, if not all, of our constitution, and they get more rabid by the day.
Just about everything the left, including Dems, does in the name of "democracy" tends to eliminate minority rights and institute a system that runs by simple majority rule. This is what they mean by "democracy". When you take the term "democracy" as the Democrats mean it, the biggest enemy of their democracy has always been our Founding Fathers, as they went to great lengths to protect the rights, freedoms, and liberties of ALL INDIVIDUALS regardless of what party holds power. When reduced to this, we are looking again at the basic INDIVIDUAL VS. COLLECTIVE dichotomy.
