The Epstein List?

We are American Ninja Warrior fans and one of our all time favorites was Drew Drechsel. We admired his great ability in the challenges and thought what a great guy when he would go out of his way to advise others how to defeat this or that apparatus. I would have loved to be photographed with him at that time.

But Drew's private life apparently wasn't so exemplary. He was found with child porn and soliciting minors, enticing them for sexual encounters. He was tried, convicted, sentenced to prison for a time.

But to assume that my husband and I are approving/condoning of or involved in sex crimes because we once admired Drew Dreschsel or because we were social friends with a guy who turned out to be a sex offender--I described that guy in a previous post--would just be dumb.
They ARE dumb.
 
Well thanks. But how does what I posted correlate with Dan Marino? LOL.
Just a famous person who I love.

I know it was random.

You said you are a public figure.

Your post was poignant.
 
True dat.......unless there is more other information that could be sensitive enough that the public would freak if released. Not just D vs R, but worldwide stuff.

When he was first arrested in 05(?), the investigations revealed alot of 'evidence' of his activities, only some of them were attributed to the sex scandal. He pled guilty and spent time behind bars........but was granted very lenient privileges that no other level 3 sex offender could ever hope to get. The AG, FBI, prosecutors, etc all downplayed any legal actions and turned blind eyes to much of it.......when by law he should have been locked up and the keys thrown away.

Not to mention the businesses and 'associates' he worked with in his financials. He was quite 'tight' with Israel's previous PM, and other countries government leaders and elites. Much of his activities had nothing to do with his sexual fantasies.

Epstein was a 'note taker' type......making lists, videos, audio and other type of documentation. Whether it be for sex, blackmail, business or whatever reasons.......some people are like that, they like to keep records. Many were found in the 05 case, and there's no reason to think he didn't continue doing that until his death........IF he's even dead.

Everyone focus's on his abuse and trafficking of girls........but missing the possibility of even greater issues. And THAT is what is being covered up.
Yup.

Guys who use women like that, who see women as objects or as a commodity........

And who have a stable of women willing to do what they're told.... For whatever reason.... Aren't above using those women as a "Honey Trap''.

Not necessarily as Blackmail but for intelligence gathering information. Trying to Blackmail a British Royal or a POTUS is very likely to get the attention of MI6 and the CIA. And trying to Blackmail the Israeli PM might make his friends in the Mossad a little pissy.

Neither of which I would want looking for me with bad intentions.

It is possible, even likely that one of them got to him. But we don't know. We just don't know. And I don't know if it was in those papers, those files or not. I doubt it.

At this point I think Epstein was just a social climber who wanted, more than anything, to rub elbows with The Elites.

There's a lot of people like that. Groupies aren't all Females, y'know. Females use their Looks and their Sex Appeal to get into those circles. Men and Plain Females have to use other means,.... Educational degrees, Notoriety, through the DISGUSTING FILTH........ Fame, Politics, Power...

Everybody wants to be FAMOUS!!

Except me.

I like being able to go places without being recognized, without people you don't know (or wish you didn') come up to you in the Dinner Line and act like you're their long-lost Brother.

I enjoy my anonymity.
 
Yup.

Guys who use women like that, who see women as objects or as a commodity........

And who have a stable of women willing to do what they're told.... For whatever reason.... Aren't above using those women as a "Honey Trap''.

Not necessarily as Blackmail but for intelligence gathering information. Trying to Blackmail a British Royal or a POTUS is very likely to get the attention of MI6 and the CIA. And trying to Blackmail the Israeli PM might make his friends in the Mossad a little pissy.

Neither of which I would want looking for me with bad intentions.

It is possible, even likely that one of them got to him. But we don't know. We just don't know. And I don't know if it was in those papers, those files or not. I doubt it.

At this point I think Epstein was just a social climber who wanted, more than anything, to rub elbows with The Elites.

There's a lot of people like that. Groupies aren't all Females, y'know. Females use their Looks and their Sex Appeal to get into those circles. Men and Plain Females have to use other means,.... Educational degrees, Notoriety, through the DISGUSTING FILTH........ Fame, Politics, Power...

Everybody wants to be FAMOUS!!

Except me.

I like being able to go places without being recognized, without people you don't know (or wish you didn') come up to you in the Dinner Line and act like you're their long-lost Brother.

I enjoy my anonymity.
Ghislane Maxwell didn't goto jail 29 years for rubbing elbows with elites
 
No question that Epstein had some highly placed contacts that he socialized with.
Having a book with their contact information does not mean they engaged in underage sexual activities.

The “smoking gun” of names and sexual activities they were involved in has never been found.
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Knowing how the Left works, if Conservative politicians were involved with Epstein, their names would have been revealed during the Biden administration.
Especially if Trump's name appeared...
We do know that Bill Clinton and Hillary's name came up many times and that of Bill Gates,
The question begging to be answered is how many celebrities and Democrat politicians were black mailed by Epstein.
Only Ghislaine Maxwell can answer that and the gov't won;t let her speak they want to keep her in jail.
If I were Bondi I'd be speaking to Maxwell.
 
Even that photo of Prince Andrew with the underage girl looks incriminating, but is insufficient to prove Andrew committed an actual crime.

That photo helped confirm the claims of the underage girl that Andrew had relations with her.
Investigation by Scotland Yard was enough confirmation to kick Andrew from the Royal Family
 
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Knowing how the Left works, if Conservative politicians were involved with Epstein, their names would have been revealed during the Biden administration.
Especially if Trump's name appeared...
We do know that Bill Clinton and Hillary's name came up many times and that of Bill Gates,
The question begging to be answered is how many celebrities and Democrat politicians were black mailed by Epstein.
Only Ghislaine Maxwell can answer that and the gov't won;t let her speak they want to keep her in jail.
If I were Bondi I'd be speaking to Maxwell.
I am trying to defend Blondie here
Sometimes there is no magic book

If it is politically beneficial to the left….Biden would have released it
If it was beneficial to the right….Trump would release it

Maybe there is nothing to show
 
Apparently Epstein's little black book was published quite some time ago. Here's ninety two pages of names.

An annotated copy of the address book, which also contains entries for Alec Baldwin, Ralph Fiennes, Griffin Dunne, New York Post gossip Richard Johnson, Ted Kennedy, David Koch, filmmaker Andrew Jarecki, and all manner of other people you might expect a billionaire to know, turned up in court proceedings after Epstein's former house manager Alfredo Rodriguez tried to sell it in 2009. About 50 of the entries, including those of many of Epstein's suspected victims and accomplices as well as Trump, Love, Barak, Dershowitz, and others, were circled by Rodriguez. (The existence of the book has been previously reported by the Daily Mail. Gawker is publishing it in full here for the first time; we have redacted addresses, telephone numbers, email addresses, and the last names of individuals who may have been underage victims.)


WAPO article expands:

A Wall Street Journal investigation, using thousands of emails and schedules, uncovered new people who associated with Jeffrey Epstein for years after he was a convicted sex offender. The reporting revealed the kinds of favors he did—and threats he made—for those in his circle. Here are key articles from our investigation:

Trump's on it.

What does that tell you?
 
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That photo helped confirm the claims of the underage girl that Andrew had relations with her.
Investigation by Scotland Yard was enough confirmation to kick Andrew from the Royal Family
Helped confirm the plaintiff's argument. But the photo alone did not confirm. Which is what I said.

Andrew was not stripped of his titles because he was proved guilty. He wasn't. It was because he would have settle to make the issue go away. He apparently sold a Swiss Chalet he had and Queen Elizabeth likely paid the rest of the settlement.

Guilty or not, the court of public opinion is extremely important to the Royal family.

 
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Yup.

Guys who use women like that, who see women as objects or as a commodity........

And who have a stable of women willing to do what they're told.... For whatever reason.... Aren't above using those women as a "Honey Trap''.

Not necessarily as Blackmail but for intelligence gathering information. Trying to Blackmail a British Royal or a POTUS is very likely to get the attention of MI6 and the CIA. And trying to Blackmail the Israeli PM might make his friends in the Mossad a little pissy.

Neither of which I would want looking for me with bad intentions.

It is possible, even likely that one of them got to him. But we don't know. We just don't know. And I don't know if it was in those papers, those files or not. I doubt it.

At this point I think Epstein was just a social climber who wanted, more than anything, to rub elbows with The Elites.

There's a lot of people like that. Groupies aren't all Females, y'know. Females use their Looks and their Sex Appeal to get into those circles. Men and Plain Females have to use other means,.... Educational degrees, Notoriety, through the DISGUSTING FILTH........ Fame, Politics, Power...

Everybody wants to be FAMOUS!!

Except me.

I like being able to go places without being recognized, without people you don't know (or wish you didn') come up to you in the Dinner Line and act like you're their long-lost Brother.

I enjoy my anonymity.


And you missed my point completely........as everyone else on the board, in this thread and the general public as a whole.

Everyone keeps focused on his sexual escapades and who was or wasn't included but completely ignores everything else he was into.

Anyone's need for fame & fortune & hob knobbing with elites doesn't usually include making deals with world government officials,.

I think it's all a rabbit hole and nobody is willing to delve into it further.
 
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