This sounds like EMH logic.
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It sure is. good ole H2O. What is CO2? .04%. See, I don't fall for that a drop of ink in the ocean will turn the ocean the color of the ink.
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In your world I guess.
How did I contradict my post? I've never argued pressure causes warming. You contradicted your post that CO2 does not trap heat when you said pressure causes more warming which implies that CO2 must provide SOME warming.
But if water vapor in the atmosphere traps heat because water vapor is a GHG wouldn't CO2 also trap some heat because it is a GHG too?
Right but it's not zero so it must provide some GHG effect, right? It's not zero, right?
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Well, when warm air rises off the surface, the pressure increases. When the atmosphere cools down, the pressure drops. CO2 would cool the atmosphere, so the pressure goes down. So, the fact their is low pressure defeats any argument that CO2 could warm.
Well.... doesn't EMH believe CO2 adds zero heat? That's your belief too, right? Doesn't EMH believe atmospheric pressure affects temperature? Seems like you agree with EMH.
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when you show me it can trap heat I'll bite.
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So he agrees with me you mean?
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so a drop of ink in the ocean turns the ocean the color of the ink?
Have you been taking lessons from EMH? Warmer air lowers atmospheric pressure. Cold air raises atmospheric pressure. Wetter air lowers atmospheric pressure. Drier air raises atmospheric pressure.
That's nothing to brag about. He's an idiot. Maybe ask Todster?
No. But is has some effect. The effect is not zero. Same for CO2. It's crazy that you believe water vapor affects temperature but not CO2. It's illogical AF.
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Cool Temperatures
Cool temperatures cause air pressure to drop.
Read More: How Does Temperature Affect Barometric Pressure?
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well cool, then show me the experiment that proves that point. I can't wait to see it. I've been waiting for a decade in here for someone to post it.
You do realize the atmosphere is not a fixed volume, right?
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it isn't? How can that be, everyone uses global meaning that every region of the globe affects warming on a day or month at the same time.
Incorrect. Colder temperatures - for the same water vapor - increase the density of the air which increases atmospheric pressure. But usually colder temperatures will have less water vapor in the air so that's probably where the confusion comes from.
You really are a disciple of EMH.
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