The Environment Forum now decidedly one sided!!

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, they don't. Not one measurement that has been taken can be attributed to AGW.

Not one.

You're an embarrassing liar.

And you have no education or experience in any related field.

 

[jc456]

You're an embarrassing liar.

And you have no education or experience in any related field.

post the evidence you got. We'll wait for you. You won't, cause you're a demofk and that's the last thing a demofk would ever do is bring in a receipt.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

post the evidence you got.

Go lick a street lamp. Why would i ever do an exercise for a worthless troll like you? Please.

 

[ding]

you claimed there was more of it causing at least a 1 degree warming. How do you know that if you don't have data? That's how I arrived there.

That's the theoretical GHG effect from simple physics. 1C per doubling of CO2.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's the theoretical GHG effect from simple physics. 1C per doubling of CO2.

Of course, climate scientists have discovered that will lead to 1.5degC to 4.5degC warming.

Get caught up.

 

[EMH]

That's the theoretical GHG effect from simple physics. 1C per doubling of CO2.

Then there is the ACTUAL DATA

increase CO2 in atmosphere = no warming in atmosphere


THEORY REJECTED

 

[jc456]

That's the theoretical GHG effect from simple physics. 1C per doubling of CO2.

so you have no data to prove the theory? That's what science does if you recall.

 

[jc456]

Go lick a street lamp. Why would i ever do an exercise for a worthless troll like you? Please.

You never like to get called out for you lies. Almost never any receipt. And it's like that this time. Congratulations, you failed.

 

[ding]

so you have no data to prove the theory? That's what science does if you recall.

You mean besides the fact that there is literally a greenhouse gas effect that slows heat transfer from the earth to outer space?

Is this fake too?

I purposely selected this graphic of it because it was well before AGW was a thing.

1-12 Global Energy Balance

www.meteor.iastate.edu

 

[ding]

Then there is the ACTUAL DATA

increase CO2 in atmosphere = no warming in atmosphere


THEORY REJECTED

1C per doubling of CO2

"...Doubling concentration rises that level nearer to the tropopause which radiates at a lower temperature. The estimate given for the Earth’s warming in Houghton’s book is 1.2 degrees for each doubling..."

Doubling CO2 and basic physics

I have been struggling to understand exactly how increasing CO2 levels leads to global warming using basic physics, and the story is complex. The trapping of certain bands of infrared radiation em…

clivebest.com

 

[EMH]

1C per doubling of CO2

"...Doubling concentration rises that level nearer to the tropopause which radiates at a lower temperature. The estimate given for the Earth’s warming in Houghton’s book is 1.2 degrees for each doubling..."

Doubling CO2 and basic physics

I have been struggling to understand exactly how increasing CO2 levels leads to global warming using basic physics, and the story is complex. The trapping of certain bands of infrared radiation em…

clivebest.com

Actual DATA from INSTRUMENTS, not traditional CO2 FRAUD FUDGE

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling



CO2 went up. Atmospheric temps did not = the ACTUAL DATA, the ONLY DATA....

 

[ding]

Thermohaline Circulation - Currents: NOAA's National Ocean Service Education

National Ocean Service's Education Online tutorial on Corals?

oceanservice.noaa.gov

Winds drive ocean currents in the upper 100 meters of the ocean’s surface. However, ocean currents also flow thousands of meters below the surface. These deep-ocean currents are driven by differences in the water’s density, which is controlled by temperature (thermo) and salinity (haline). This process is known as thermohaline circulation




WATER

WATER

WATER does not cause ICE


IQ over 5 required to notice...

Are you going to ignore the word "temperature?"

 

[ding]

Actual DATA from INSTRUMENTS, not traditional CO2 FRAUD FUDGE

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling



CO2 went up. Atmospheric temps did not = the ACTUAL DATA, the ONLY DATA....

CO2 is a relatively weak GHG but to argue it has no effect is dumb.

 

[ding]

Actual DATA from INSTRUMENTS, not traditional CO2 FRAUD FUDGE

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling



CO2 went up. Atmospheric temps did not = the ACTUAL DATA, the ONLY DATA....

"...Increasing carbon dioxide will cause a small additional surface warming. It is difficult to
calculate exactly how much, but our best estimate is that it is about 1 C for every doubling of
CO2 concentration, when all feedbacks are correctly accounted for..."

[PDF] Atmosphere and Greenhouse Gas Primer | Semantic Scholar

An academic search engine that utilizes artificial intelligence methods to provide highly relevant results and novel tools to filter them with ease.

www.semanticscholar.org

 

[jc456]

You mean besides the fact that there is literally a greenhouse gas effect that slows heat transfer from the earth to outer space?

Is this fake too?

View attachment 1062880

I purposely selected this graphic of it because it was well before AGW was a thing.

1-12 Global Energy Balance

www.meteor.iastate.edu

I grow tired of theoretical answers with no data whatsoever

 

[jc456]

"...Increasing carbon dioxide will cause a small additional surface warming. It is difficult to
calculate exactly how much, but our best estimate is that it is about 1 C for every doubling of
CO2 concentration, when all feedbacks are correctly accounted for..."

[PDF] Atmosphere and Greenhouse Gas Primer | Semantic Scholar

An academic search engine that utilizes artificial intelligence methods to provide highly relevant results and novel tools to filter them with ease.

www.semanticscholar.org

Why can’t you prove it?

 

[jc456]

CO2 is a relatively weak GHG but to argue it has no effect is dumb.

Then prove it!

 

[ding]

I grow tired of theoretical answers with no data whatsoever

Do you believe that the presence of an atmosphere creates a GHG effect?

 

[ding]

Then prove it!

How does this not prove it? Do you see the total atmosphere? Do you see water vapor? Do you see CO2? Which of those two most resemble the total atmosphere?

 

[ding]

Why can’t you prove it?

I've provided two different sources. Would you prefer the IPCC's 3.5 to 4.5C per doubling of CO2?