The end of china’s rise as an economic and political power

[Mac-7]

You don't know what communist means, do you.

I do know

But if you think you know better why dont you ‘splain it to us?

 

[Hafar1014]

You don't know what communist means, do you.

It means oppression, no freedom, poverty, gulags, and wars.

 

[kevinthrowe]

As described in “ Collapse, Why societies choose to fail “ China will be the next world power .

 

[mudwhistle]

They have not been communist in decades. They are classical Fascist now.

Jesus Christ!!!!

The Communist Chinese Party isn't communist anymore?

When did they become like Hitler?

Did they get rid of their party and replace it with a lone dictator?

The CCP practices Democratic Centralism....which his Leninist in nature.

The Chinese Communist party has over 100 million members.

 

[Zincwarrior]

In effect there is no difference. Its difference without a distinction that creates the same results.

IN many ways I agree. They are both dictatorships.

 

[postman]

Jesus Christ!!!!

The Communist Chinese Party isn't communist anymore?

Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't democratic.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Spotlighting The World Factbook as We Bid a Fond Farewell - CIA

www.cia.gov

One of CIA’s oldest and most recognizable intelligence publications, The World Factbook,

Real GDP growth rate - The World Factbook

This entry gives a country's real GDP annual growth rate, adjusted for seasonal unemployment and inflation. ...
China. 6.14% (2019 est.) 6.75% (2018 est.)

Where do they receive their information?

It is akin to believing the Gaza death tolls numbers provided by Hamas.

 

[gtopa1]

I admit that I am out of touch with China these days but they are still a totalitarian state with all the lunacy that is involved. They are also incredibly NATIONALIST in the Socialism and yes; just like Hitler.

NEVER EVER believe ONE WORD that comes out of China.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Where do they receive their information?

It is akin to believing the Gaza death tolls numbers provided by Hamas.

They DO believe the Hamas numbers; they are just an America Hating hive swarm.

Greg

 

[Mac-7]

As described in “ Collapse, Why societies choose to fail “ China will be the next world power .

Its already a world power

The question is how powerful can it be?

And increasingly the future for the chicoms is not bright

 

[shockedcanadian]

They DO believe the Hamas numbers; they are just an America Hating hive swarm.

Greg

I listen to opinions from all, left, right, libertarians, pro-Israel, Pro-Palestinian, humanitarians, war hawks.

I find that there are too many naive on the left. The further left the more naive they seem to cluster.

 

[gtopa1]

Its already a world power

The question is how powerful can it be?

And increasingly the future for the chicoms is not bright

I recall Japan and MITI; strong export sector BUT lousy domestic Economy. China is at that sorta situation imo.

Still as I've said I'm not up to date on the stuff.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

I listen to opinions from all, left, right, libertarians, pro-Israel, Pro-Palestinian, humanitarians, war hawks.

I find that there are too many naive on the left. The further left the more naive they seem to cluster.

I agree.

Greg

 

[Mac-7]

I recall Japan and MITI; strong export sector BUT lousy domestic Economy. China is at that sorta situation imo.

Still as I've said I'm not up to date on the stuff.

Greg

China has limiting factors thst cannot be changed

The video explains them very clearly in the first 20 minutes

 

[Zincwarrior]

China has limiting factors thst cannot be changed

The video explains them very clearly in the first 20 minutes

We shall see.

In the interim we need not trade with our own potential doom.

 

[Mac-7]

We shall see.

In the interim we need not trade with our own potential doom.

I agree that trade with china is bad for the US

But a situation in the making for over 30 years cant be undone overnight

 

[task0778]

I agree that trade with china is bad for the US

I'm not entirely sure about that. A lot of Americans who are on the low side of the income ladder benefit quite a bit from the low-priced goods that come from China and other countries. Take that away and you have just lowered their standard of living, and that should not be summarily blown off.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm not entirely sure about that. A lot of Americans who are on the low side of the income ladder benefit quite a bit from the low-priced goods that come from China and other countries. Take that away and you have just lowered their standard of living, and that should not be summarily blown off.

“China and other countries”

Goods from china are the most harmful

Imports from friendly countries are not so bad as long as they are truly made in that country

But imports from china are arming the Red Army and Navy that will kill American soldiers someday

 

[TimFitz]

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Japan isn't even surpassing Germany

View attachment 1220823

Hard to miss the fact that the US, along with the countries that made up the Western Alliance before Trump easily more than double China’s GDP.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I agree that trade with china is bad for the US

But a situation in the making for over 30 years cant be undone overnight

This is very true.