The Economy IS Working for Everyone

[Deno]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in America..........

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ludicrous.
As usual when you have the pinheaded talking heads - they leave out whole swaths of comparative data and context and cherry pick their "facts".
There is no mention here, and pretty much every article trying to say how well everything is - UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
Underemployment is a greater problem than unemployment. Throughout the country there are $9 - $13 hr jobs for the taking. They are everywhere, sure that is better than 2009 - 2015 or so when there wasn't even these. But low paying jobs like these cannot support yourself, let alone a family. Even with 2 people both working in these jobs that still is not enough money to buy and maintain a home.
Then there is the point of wage growth. This is also a problem, the earnings that are having the highest increases are the LOWEST paying jobs. So if you have a job that pays $11 an hour...a wade growth of 4% is only $.44 an hour, or $16 more a week.
ALSO - not mentioned in the article is the CRIPPLING high cost of health insurance. Having a job that pays $13 an hour, after taxes is about $430 a week...but you are saddled with a lousy insurance plan that costs you $600/mo. OVER a weeks paycheck.

So, once again - it is all bullshit. Things still suck very much for the lower middle class as well as the middle class.

Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker.

We have job openings for skilled workers all around the country that would pay a good, decent wage.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in America..........

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

Yep, Trump is so amazing he caused full employment before he even announced his plan to run for president.

It is Sunday, could you not at least take one day off from you Trump worship?

 

[Deno]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in America..........

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

you cannot turn back time.

The main reason for the loss of US steel jobs is a huge increase in worker productivity, not imports, and the jobs aren't coming back - AEI

Bull Shit....

China's cheap labor is why they can under cut us.....

The only thing here that is cheap is your talk.

So are you saying China's cheap labor isn't a factor?

Lets see you wiggle out of this...….

All Praise President Donald J. Trump...………..

 

[Faun]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in Trumps America..........

And yet, we have over 102 million people not working. That makes the unemployment really about 39% according to trump math.

Why the long face on your avatar?

You are so full of Shit...

Guess what Dumb Ass...

There are 328,814,414 people in America per the US census bureau.

Your math skills are really lacking our you are a lying Tard..

If you're not a lazy dumb ass tard that thinks

the world owes you a living, you can find a job.

LOLOL

Seriously? You’re counting babies in the unemployment rate???

There’s 259 million people in the civilian non-institutional population. According to trump, that makes the unemployment rate 39%.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Ludicrous.
As usual when you have the pinheaded talking heads - they leave out whole swaths of comparative data and context and cherry pick their "facts".
There is no mention here, and pretty much every article trying to say how well everything is - UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
Underemployment is a greater problem than unemployment. Throughout the country there are $9 - $13 hr jobs for the taking. They are everywhere, sure that is better than 2009 - 2015 or so when there wasn't even these. But low paying jobs like these cannot support yourself, let alone a family. Even with 2 people both working in these jobs that still is not enough money to buy and maintain a home.
Then there is the point of wage growth. This is also a problem, the earnings that are having the highest increases are the LOWEST paying jobs. So if you have a job that pays $11 an hour...a wade growth of 4% is only $.44 an hour, or $16 more a week.
ALSO - not mentioned in the article is the CRIPPLING high cost of health insurance. Having a job that pays $13 an hour, after taxes is about $430 a week...but you are saddled with a lousy insurance plan that costs you $600/mo. OVER a weeks paycheck.

So, once again - it is all bullshit. Things still suck very much for the lower middle class as well as the middle class.

Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker.

We have job openings for skilled workers all around the country that would pay a good, decent wage.

" Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker. " - That is completely wrong. I can sit here and name of 20 people I know personally that lost high paying jobs and are working for $5 /hr less than what they use to. 30 years ago within easy driving distance there were 3 Auto plants, a major appliance manufacturer, a huge bus manufacturer, a large auto electronics manufacturer, a Delco faucet plant and many-many smaller plants that primarily served these factories.
Today - there is one Auto plant left. Every single other plant is gone. Most to Mexico due to NAFTA.
NOTHING but $9 - $15 an/hr jobs replaced them. And those jobs were paying $15-$17 an hour 30 years ago!

 

[Faun]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in America..........

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

LOLOL

That began long before trump was president.

 

[Moonglow]

I don't get to work so the economy can do what it likes.

 

[Deno]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in America..........

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

LOLOL

That began long before trump was president.

Libtard bull shit.....

It's all Trump.....

 

[Faun]

If you are willing to work...

You can find work in Trumps America..........

And yet, we have over 102 million people not working. That makes the unemployment really about 39% according to trump math.

Why the long face on your avatar?

You are so full of Shit...

Guess what Dumb Ass...

There are 328,814,414 people in America per the US census bureau.

Your math skills are really lacking our you are a lying Tard..

If you're not a lazy dumb ass tard that thinks

the world owes you a living, you can find a job.

LOLOL

Seriously? You’re counting babies in the unemployment rate???

There’s 259 million people in the civilian non-institutional population. According to trump, that makes the unemployment rate 39%.

You Tards count for something.....

I accept your concession.

Trump’s unemployment rate remains at 39%.

 

[Faun]

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

LOLOL

That began long before trump was president.

Libtard bull shit.....

It's all Trump.....

From before he was president? That must be what you meant by “magic wand.”

 

[Harpy Eagle]

that statement has been true for at least the last 5 to 6 years.

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

you cannot turn back time.

The main reason for the loss of US steel jobs is a huge increase in worker productivity, not imports, and the jobs aren't coming back - AEI

Bull Shit....

China's cheap labor is why they can under cut us.....

The only thing here that is cheap is your talk.

So are you saying China's cheap labor isn't a factor?

Lets see you wiggle out of this...….

All Praise President Donald J. Trump...………..

I am saying that 80% of the "lost" jobs in America were lost to automation and process improvements.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ludicrous.
As usual when you have the pinheaded talking heads - they leave out whole swaths of comparative data and context and cherry pick their "facts".
There is no mention here, and pretty much every article trying to say how well everything is - UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
Underemployment is a greater problem than unemployment. Throughout the country there are $9 - $13 hr jobs for the taking. They are everywhere, sure that is better than 2009 - 2015 or so when there wasn't even these. But low paying jobs like these cannot support yourself, let alone a family. Even with 2 people both working in these jobs that still is not enough money to buy and maintain a home.
Then there is the point of wage growth. This is also a problem, the earnings that are having the highest increases are the LOWEST paying jobs. So if you have a job that pays $11 an hour...a wade growth of 4% is only $.44 an hour, or $16 more a week.
ALSO - not mentioned in the article is the CRIPPLING high cost of health insurance. Having a job that pays $13 an hour, after taxes is about $430 a week...but you are saddled with a lousy insurance plan that costs you $600/mo. OVER a weeks paycheck.

So, once again - it is all bullshit. Things still suck very much for the lower middle class as well as the middle class.

Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker.

We have job openings for skilled workers all around the country that would pay a good, decent wage.

" Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker. " - That is completely wrong. I can sit here and name of 20 people I know personally that lost high paying jobs and are working for $5 /hr less than what they use to. 30 years ago within easy driving distance there were 3 Auto plants, a major appliance manufacturer, a huge bus manufacturer, a large auto electronics manufacturer, a Delco faucet plant and many-many smaller plants that primarily served these factories.
Today - there is one Auto plant left. Every single other plant is gone. Most to Mexico due to NAFTA.
NOTHING but $9 - $15 an/hr jobs replaced them. And those jobs were paying $15-$17 an hour 30 years ago!

Sometimes you have to move to where the jobs are.

Also, most factory work is not skilled labor, just repetitively doing the exact same task a 1000 times a day. That is why automation was so easy to apply to such functions.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Ludicrous.
As usual when you have the pinheaded talking heads - they leave out whole swaths of comparative data and context and cherry pick their "facts".
There is no mention here, and pretty much every article trying to say how well everything is - UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
Underemployment is a greater problem than unemployment. Throughout the country there are $9 - $13 hr jobs for the taking. They are everywhere, sure that is better than 2009 - 2015 or so when there wasn't even these. But low paying jobs like these cannot support yourself, let alone a family. Even with 2 people both working in these jobs that still is not enough money to buy and maintain a home.
Then there is the point of wage growth. This is also a problem, the earnings that are having the highest increases are the LOWEST paying jobs. So if you have a job that pays $11 an hour...a wade growth of 4% is only $.44 an hour, or $16 more a week.
ALSO - not mentioned in the article is the CRIPPLING high cost of health insurance. Having a job that pays $13 an hour, after taxes is about $430 a week...but you are saddled with a lousy insurance plan that costs you $600/mo. OVER a weeks paycheck.

So, once again - it is all bullshit. Things still suck very much for the lower middle class as well as the middle class.

Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker.

We have job openings for skilled workers all around the country that would pay a good, decent wage.

" Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker. " - That is completely wrong. I can sit here and name of 20 people I know personally that lost high paying jobs and are working for $5 /hr less than what they use to. 30 years ago within easy driving distance there were 3 Auto plants, a major appliance manufacturer, a huge bus manufacturer, a large auto electronics manufacturer, a Delco faucet plant and many-many smaller plants that primarily served these factories.
Today - there is one Auto plant left. Every single other plant is gone. Most to Mexico due to NAFTA.
NOTHING but $9 - $15 an/hr jobs replaced them. And those jobs were paying $15-$17 an hour 30 years ago!

Sometimes you have to move to where the jobs are.

Also, most factory work is not skilled labor, just repetitively doing the exact same task a 1000 times a day. That is why automation was so easy to apply to such functions.

First of all, there is no argument that robotics and automation took most of the jobs, not the point.
The point is for all of the higher paying jobs with solid benefits, they have been replaced with much lower paying jobs with lousy benefits.
Jobs for the masses.
The simple fact is, as society gets more and more advanced, those who cannot learn to adapt...they simply lack the intelligence...and btw that is a large percentage of people. MOST people do not do well in college...did you know that.? That's right - MOST people either drop out, flunk out or are forced to down grade their degree or change their majors to an easier field - than successfully complete their chosen field. It isn't even close.
So it is disingenuous to make the "point" that "well people just need to get better educated or learn how to do things that make them more employable".
That is naive. MOST people can't do that, or don't have the discipline. (Yes I am aware you will jump all over that lack of discipline)
For transparency, let me say I am doing fine. I have a good job, pays better than most. I live comfortably in a nice house, large yard..the whole bit. My two kids graduated in their chosen fields and are doing not just OK, but exceptionally good. So it isn't just me bitching about my own condition.

 

[LeftofLeft]

A few days ago, Alfredo Ortiz published an excellent article on the fact that, contrary to Democrats' claims, the economy is in fact working for everyone, not just the rich. The article was published on Townhall.com and was picked up by RealClearPolitics.com. Here's an excerpt:

This diversion tactic fails on its merits. Start with unemployment rates, which are at or near record lows for Hispanic, black, female, and young workers. The unemployment rate for Americans without a high-school education, supposedly a group that's been shafted in today's economy, is hovering near a record low. The rate for those with disabilities has fallen by more than 20 percent over the last year to a mere 6.3 percent -- the lowest level on record.

Then look at wages. While average wages have been growing at about 3.2 percent for several months now, they've been increasing even faster for middle-class production and non-supervisory workers. Last year, wage growth was 6.5 percent for the 10th percentile of workers with the lowest incomes -- about double the overall average. Contrast this wage growth to the paltry 2 percent average under President Obama.​

Here's the link for the article:

Contrary to Democrat Talking Point, The Economy is Working for Everyone

Alfredo Ortiz is a regular contributor to alt-right, nuthouse Breitbart.

Alfredo Ortiz, Author at Breitbart

The guy is staggeringly biased and any political opinions he has are completely useless.

And btw...

the wealth gap is getting worse...fact.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

So Mr. Ortiz can shove his alt-right opinions right up his ass.

A rising tide raises all ships yet the Left is going to complain about the disparity in the size of the ships; as if this is a “problem” that can ever be solved.

“wealth gap” and “income inequality” are bullshit rallying cries from those who think best economic reform is rooted in class envy. Socialists and Communists use this. It is such bullshit. Look at the every socialist and communist society that promise no wealth or income disparities..... yet they still exists. They simply created one massive class and lock in a true 1 percent that enjoys the wealth and income while everyone else is stuck with limited opportunity.

When the Left screams and cries about income and wealth gaps it is simply tapping into class envy pain and a shift towards truly 1 percent rule like we see in other nations.

 

[Deno]

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

We've been at full employment for years now...

The U.S. Economy Is Finally at Full Employment

Thank God for President Trump and his Magic Wand...

Drop the mic....

LOLOL

That began long before trump was president.

Libtard bull shit.....

It's all Trump.....

From before he was president? That must be what you meant by “magic wand.”

I'm talking about the magic wand Trump shoved up obozo's ass.....

Drop the mic...….

 

[Deno]

Neg-a-tory Kilroy.....

Not true for steel manufactures....

I have seen this first hand......

you cannot turn back time.

The main reason for the loss of US steel jobs is a huge increase in worker productivity, not imports, and the jobs aren't coming back - AEI

Bull Shit....

China's cheap labor is why they can under cut us.....

The only thing here that is cheap is your talk.

So are you saying China's cheap labor isn't a factor?

Lets see you wiggle out of this...….

All Praise President Donald J. Trump...………..

I am saying that 80% of the "lost" jobs in America were lost to automation and process improvements.

You must have got this off cnn….

Sounds like bull shit to me....

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Theirs tons of jobs out there .blue collar, white collar, shit jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
whats that old democrat saying ..its the economy stupid

 

[Moonglow]

Ludicrous.
As usual when you have the pinheaded talking heads - they leave out whole swaths of comparative data and context and cherry pick their "facts".
There is no mention here, and pretty much every article trying to say how well everything is - UNDEREMPLOYMENT.
Underemployment is a greater problem than unemployment. Throughout the country there are $9 - $13 hr jobs for the taking. They are everywhere, sure that is better than 2009 - 2015 or so when there wasn't even these. But low paying jobs like these cannot support yourself, let alone a family. Even with 2 people both working in these jobs that still is not enough money to buy and maintain a home.
Then there is the point of wage growth. This is also a problem, the earnings that are having the highest increases are the LOWEST paying jobs. So if you have a job that pays $11 an hour...a wade growth of 4% is only $.44 an hour, or $16 more a week.
ALSO - not mentioned in the article is the CRIPPLING high cost of health insurance. Having a job that pays $13 an hour, after taxes is about $430 a week...but you are saddled with a lousy insurance plan that costs you $600/mo. OVER a weeks paycheck.

So, once again - it is all bullshit. Things still suck very much for the lower middle class as well as the middle class.

Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker.

We have job openings for skilled workers all around the country that would pay a good, decent wage.

" Underemployment is almost always due to a lack of skills by the worker. " - That is completely wrong. I can sit here and name of 20 people I know personally that lost high paying jobs and are working for $5 /hr less than what they use to. 30 years ago within easy driving distance there were 3 Auto plants, a major appliance manufacturer, a huge bus manufacturer, a large auto electronics manufacturer, a Delco faucet plant and many-many smaller plants that primarily served these factories.
Today - there is one Auto plant left. Every single other plant is gone. Most to Mexico due to NAFTA.
NOTHING but $9 - $15 an/hr jobs replaced them. And those jobs were paying $15-$17 an hour 30 years ago!

Sometimes you have to move to where the jobs are.

Also, most factory work is not skilled labor, just repetitively doing the exact same task a 1000 times a day. That is why automation was so easy to apply to such functions.

First of all, there is no argument that robotics and automation took most of the jobs, not the point.
The point is for all of the higher paying jobs with solid benefits, they have been replaced with much lower paying jobs with lousy benefits.
Jobs for the masses.
The simple fact is, as society gets more and more advanced, those who cannot learn to adapt...they simply lack the intelligence...and btw that is a large percentage of people. MOST people do not do well in college...did you know that.? That's right - MOST people either drop out, flunk out or are forced to down grade their degree or change their majors to an easier field - than successfully complete their chosen field. It isn't even close.
So it is disingenuous to make the "point" that "well people just need to get better educated or learn how to do things that make them more employable".
That is naive. MOST people can't do that, or don't have the discipline. (Yes I am aware you will jump all over that lack of discipline)
For transparency, let me say I am doing fine. I have a good job, pays better than most. I live comfortably in a nice house, large yard..the whole bit. My two kids graduated in their chosen fields and are doing not just OK, but exceptionally good. So it isn't just me bitching about my own condition.

Exceptionally well for those of us that are learned..

 

[Deno]

A few days ago, Alfredo Ortiz published an excellent article on the fact that, contrary to Democrats' claims, the economy is in fact working for everyone, not just the rich. The article was published on Townhall.com and was picked up by RealClearPolitics.com. Here's an excerpt:

This diversion tactic fails on its merits. Start with unemployment rates, which are at or near record lows for Hispanic, black, female, and young workers. The unemployment rate for Americans without a high-school education, supposedly a group that's been shafted in today's economy, is hovering near a record low. The rate for those with disabilities has fallen by more than 20 percent over the last year to a mere 6.3 percent -- the lowest level on record.

Then look at wages. While average wages have been growing at about 3.2 percent for several months now, they've been increasing even faster for middle-class production and non-supervisory workers. Last year, wage growth was 6.5 percent for the 10th percentile of workers with the lowest incomes -- about double the overall average. Contrast this wage growth to the paltry 2 percent average under President Obama.​

Here's the link for the article:

Contrary to Democrat Talking Point, The Economy is Working for Everyone

Then why are so many college grads having trouble paying back their student loans? Why are they having trouble finding good jobs? Companies say they can’t find workers.

Are people leaving their jobs for better jobs? Are wages going up now that immigration is down?

Not really.

I personally am doing great. The economy is great. But are the masses feeling it?

I’ll give you an example. My brothers Fortune 500 company moved hq to Ireland. So no taxes for us. But they just added 500 jobs in Michigan. Unfortunately they’re all Indian and Chinese. They will invent and build the driverless cars. Not white Americans. They’re still struggling. Any blue collar white working there isn’t making good wages.

The working class is working itself into an early grave. Supplementing flat wages with credit and staying in shit jobs for the insurance just like they have done since the 70's. Been doing it so long Americans think it's a good thing.

Why don't you just give it to us straight?

Were all "gona" DIE!