The Dumpster Rapist is sorry: Blames 'Party Culture' for Sexual Assault

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

Gee, Elvis, I wasn't the prosecutor, judge, or on the jury! I suspect that your beef is with them, not me!

These are the facts that are producing the outrage.
He was charged, and found guilty of intent to rape
He got a 6 month slap on the wrist.

Both are true. Congratulations on coming over to the side of fact. I can't say much about the matter, because I didn't sit in that courtroom and listen to all the testimony, examine all the exhibits. Many very important facts have apparently never been reported in the news, or at least I've been unable to find any reporting about them. The judge knew these facts, though. He went outside of the sentencing guidelines because... why? Defense of male privilege? Really? It couldn't be because he felt it was in the best interests of justice? That he felt it was a really weak case?

Just curious, what if the judge is recalled, and then the conviction is overturned on appeal?

 

[Vandalshandle]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

Well, I guess that means that everything is ok. Cosby will be pleased. He never raped a conscious woman, and my understanding that if he is convicted, he faces 10 years. This case will bring a big relief to him.

The difference being, Cosby drugged those women. In the Stanford case, no one was drugged. She got shitfaced on her own.

Suppose we started raising boys to be men with the idea that they shouldn't take advantage of the weaker sex and should protect the vulnerable.

Fuck that. It's patriarchal.

Well, now, I thought that my advocating a stiffer sentence was how I would teach our boys not to take illegal advantage of the weaker sex....

 

[Vandalshandle]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

Gee, Elvis, I wasn't the prosecutor, judge, or on the jury! I suspect that your beef is with them, not me!

These are the facts that are producing the outrage.
He was charged, and found guilty of intent to rape
He got a 6 month slap on the wrist.

Both are true. Congratulations on coming over to the side of fact. I can't say much about the matter, because I didn't sit in that courtroom and listen to all the testimony, examine all the exhibits. Many very important facts have apparently never been reported in the news, or at least I've been unable to find any reporting about them. The judge knew these facts, though. He went outside of the sentencing guidelines because... why? Defense of male privilege? Really? It couldn't be because he felt it was in the best interests of justice? That he felt it was a really weak case?

Just curious, what if the judge is recalled, and then the conviction is overturned on appeal?

I would say that that the people got rid of an unpopular judge by legal means and that the law was served by the legal process of appeals. Nowhere is there anything in the law that even implies that the law is justice. if it were, O.J. would never have played a round of golf after the freeway police chase. Nor is there any connection between removing a judge, and the process of appeal...at least not in this case.

 

[bodecea]

He trails Bill Clinton by about 3 dozen rapes now!

He's been convicted of rape...how many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

 

[bodecea]

Strange coincidence that the daughter of the only alleged rapist president in history graduated from Stanford. Why don't they ask Chelsea what the party life was like? Bill Clinton was accused of the same conduct that this kid took responsibility for and did six months for but the Clintons were elitists who were protected by the democrat party machine and the liberal media. Lefties even giggled about Hillary's "bimbo eruption squad" but they weren't bimbos, they were victims of her husband's sexual abuse.

How many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

 

[Katzndogz]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

Well, I guess that means that everything is ok. Cosby will be pleased. He never raped a conscious woman, and my understanding that if he is convicted, he faces 10 years. This case will bring a big relief to him.

The difference being, Cosby drugged those women. In the Stanford case, no one was drugged. She got shitfaced on her own.

Suppose we started raising boys to be men with the idea that they shouldn't take advantage of the weaker sex and should protect the vulnerable.

Fuck that. It's patriarchal.

Well, now, I thought that my advocating a stiffer sentence was how I would teach our boys not to take illegal advantage of the weaker sex....

Women are equal. There is no weaker sex. Chivalry is dead so are gentlemen.

 

[Markle]

Six months is long enough. It's not like he was a real rapist who violently attacked his victim.if she got drunk and passed out, she was partly responsible. What he did was gross, stupid and unsexy.

You're proud to be right down there in the gutter with him aren't you? My guess is that you've done the same thing and are trying to assuage your own guilt.

 

[Markle]

Strange coincidence that the daughter of the only alleged rapist president in history graduated from Stanford. Why don't they ask Chelsea what the party life was like? Bill Clinton was accused of the same conduct that this kid took responsibility for and did six months for but the Clintons were elitists who were protected by the democrat party machine and the liberal media. Lefties even giggled about Hillary's "bimbo eruption squad" but they weren't bimbos, they were victims of her husband's sexual abuse.

How many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

 

[Vandalshandle]

Strange coincidence that the daughter of the only alleged rapist president in history graduated from Stanford. Why don't they ask Chelsea what the party life was like? Bill Clinton was accused of the same conduct that this kid took responsibility for and did six months for but the Clintons were elitists who were protected by the democrat party machine and the liberal media. Lefties even giggled about Hillary's "bimbo eruption squad" but they weren't bimbos, they were victims of her husband's sexual abuse.

How many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Damn! That does it for me! I'm not votin' for Bill Clinton again!

 

[Markle]

Six months is long enough. It's not like he was a real rapist who violently attacked his victim.if she got drunk and passed out, she was partly responsible. What he did was gross, stupid and unsexy.

What he did is called "Rape".

There are degrees of rape. Does an 18 year old rape his 17 year old girl friend when they have consensual sex? This guy's girl friend passed out behind a dumpster. Maybe she had consented earlier, passed out and he was drunk enough to follow thru. They need another word for this sort of sex. Rape is violence. This didn't sound like violence

You're obviously as sick a this punk's old man.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

Well, I guess that means that everything is ok. Cosby will be pleased. He never raped a conscious woman, and my understanding that if he is convicted, he faces 10 years. This case will bring a big relief to him.

The difference being, Cosby drugged those women. In the Stanford case, no one was drugged. She got shitfaced on her own.

Suppose we started raising boys to be men with the idea that they shouldn't take advantage of the weaker sex and should protect the vulnerable.

Fuck that. It's patriarchal.

Well, now, I thought that my advocating a stiffer sentence was how I would teach our boys not to take illegal advantage of the weaker sex....

Women are equal. There is no weaker sex. Chivalry is dead so are gentlemen.

No, chivalry is not dead. Neither are gentlemen.

 

[Markle]

Strange coincidence that the daughter of the only alleged rapist president in history graduated from Stanford. Why don't they ask Chelsea what the party life was like? Bill Clinton was accused of the same conduct that this kid took responsibility for and did six months for but the Clintons were elitists who were protected by the democrat party machine and the liberal media. Lefties even giggled about Hillary's "bimbo eruption squad" but they weren't bimbos, they were victims of her husband's sexual abuse.

How many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Damn! That does it for me! I'm not votin' for Bill Clinton again!

Good, as you know, Hillary has said that upon taking office, since the economy is confusing to her I guess, she is going to put former President Bill Clinton in charge of rebuilding the economy.

Also, how can you support a woman for president who repeatedly has denigrated, abused and intimidated women who threatened to speak out on the assault they suffered at the hands of her husband?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Strange coincidence that the daughter of the only alleged rapist president in history graduated from Stanford. Why don't they ask Chelsea what the party life was like? Bill Clinton was accused of the same conduct that this kid took responsibility for and did six months for but the Clintons were elitists who were protected by the democrat party machine and the liberal media. Lefties even giggled about Hillary's "bimbo eruption squad" but they weren't bimbos, they were victims of her husband's sexual abuse.

How many rapes has Clinton been convicted of?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Damn! That does it for me! I'm not votin' for Bill Clinton again!

Good, as you know, Hillary has said that upon taking office, since the economy is confusing to her I guess, she is going to put former President Bill Clinton in charge of rebuilding the economy.

Also, how can you support a woman for president who repeatedly has denigrated, abused and intimidated women who threatened to speak out on the assault they suffered at the hands of her husband?

I lust for her body.

 

[Markle]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

You're as sick and perverted as some of the others on this site. Your ignorance of this should have prevented you from saying anything. In your pathetic statement simply emphasizes your eagerness to make a fool of yourself. Please learn what he was convicted of by a UNANIMOUS DECISION BY TWELVE JURORS.

 

[Markle]

According to Mercury News:
"Turner, 20, was convicted by a jury in March of assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object. The first offense -- assault to commit rape --carries a mandatory prison sentence. But Judge Aaron Persky, citing Turner's youth, lack of a criminal record and the fact that alcohol was involved in the January 2015 assault, agreed with a probation department recommendation and sentenced him last week to six months in county jail instead."

The AP, Fox News and other media outlets refer to Brock Turner as a convicted rapist.

The rapist also LIED to the judge about his history of alcohol, drug abuse and "aggressiveness" toward women.

 

[Markle]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

Your sick and pathetic plea of desperation is duly noted.

 

[Markle]

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

Google it. I normally don't tell people to look thing up for themselves, but in this thread I insist. I hate seeing criminal cases tried in the court of public opinion, but if people are going to venture down that path, they better do so on the basis of FACT.

I posted what I found. That and the fact that the rest of the news media refers to him as a "convicted rapist". He was convicted of penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person. The penetration was with his finger. In some states that is rape, and in others it is sexual assault.

Arguing such nonsense does not change the fact that the charges warranted prison time.

He was given prison time. Not enough, you say. What do you know about it, I say. What allows you to say you know better than the judge? Perhaps the judge felt that a miscarriage of justice had occurred. That either the jury or the defense failed to do their jobs properly. Perhaps that's why his sentence was light. What knowledge do you have, either of California law or of the facts of this case, which makes your judgement better than his?

For destroying a woman's life by committing one of the most heinous crimes possible, he received a couple months in the county JAIL, NOT several years at least, in PRISON.

 

[Vandalshandle]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

Your sick and pathetic plea of desperation is duly noted.

Desperation? I don't think so. I doubt if he is going to be released in 6 months and then rape me. I'm not his type, being of the male persuasion.

 

[Markle]

Just curious, what if the judge is recalled, and then the conviction is overturned on appeal?

The judge being recalled would not have any effect on an appeal. The reason being, the defense would NEVER appeal a victory. Perhaps they should push for a new trial?

 

[Markle]

Your sick and pathetic plea of desperation is duly noted.

Desperation? I don't think so. I doubt if he is going to be released in 6 months and then rape me. I'm not his type, being of the male persuasion.

Yes, desperation, you are desperate to assuage the seriousness of this heinous crime no doubt to make yourself feel better.

He'll be released in three months or fewer for having destroyed this young woman's life.