The downed Air Force officer had more than a normal reason to be afraid of capture.

[berg80]

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.

War Crimes Rhetoric to Battlefield Reality: Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran

Former JAGs warn that threats to strike Iran’s power plants would violate the law of war and endanger U.S. service members’ legal and moral obligations.

www.justsecurity.org

He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.

 

[Alicia J]

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.

War Crimes Rhetoric to Battlefield Reality: Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran

Former JAGs warn that threats to strike Iran’s power plants would violate the law of war and endanger U.S. service members’ legal and moral obligations.

www.justsecurity.org

He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

 

[toobfreak]

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes​

Blow it out your ass.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected​

Blow it out your ass.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him​

Blow it out your ass. Not a chance in a million years. Leave it to Demfilth scum like you to threaten war crimes against a president for attacking and defeating an avowed enemy sworn to destroying us with nukes. Only Demscum like you would worry more about an enemy's "rights" than their own country. Just remember, acting on behalf of aiding or protecting an enemy as you suggest is tantamount to TREASON.

 

[berg80]

AI Overview

Senator John McCain was a prominent and consistent opponent of the use of torture by the United States, a position deeply influenced by his own experience as a prisoner of war (POW) in North Vietnam, where he was brutally tortured.

Maybe Dubya's perspective on torture would have been different if he had gone to Vietnam instead of staying stateside, getting drunk, and snorting cocaine.

 

[berg80]

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

After the wildly inconsistent things he has said since the war began (and before), some of them detached from any semblance of reality, a case could be made to remove him on constitutional grounds for mental impairment. But the crew of subservient sycophants he has assembled will not consider it.

 

[Alicia J]

Blow it out your ass.


Blow it out your ass.


Blow it out your ass. Not a chance in a million years. Leave it to Demfilth scum like you to threaten war crimes against a president for attacking and defeating an avowed enemy sworn to destroying us with nukes. Only Demscum like you would worry more about an enemy's "rights" than their own country. Just remember, acting on behalf of aiding or protecting an enemy as you suggest is tantamount to TREASON.

So you are confirming that you are a terrorist just like Trump?

If Trump bombs these power plants and bridges and kills thousands of innocent civilians, then that makes Trump every bit of as much of a terrorist as the Iranian Ayatollahs....even worse.

 

[MarathonMike]

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

Oh wow, you're really going out on a limb there trying not to paint the most maniacal bloodthirsty Regime since Pol Pot as "innocent victims". I didn't see any mention of bringing up "war crimes" against the Iranian Regime. Did you forget to mention that?

 

[DGS49]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

 

[Crepitus]

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

anything for power is the GOP mantra.

 

[0311]

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

For them it all about the money that they make and the power they have.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

They are a criminal gang that has been on the lam for 47 years. The Manson Family of the Middle East.

 

[Lockback]

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.

War Crimes Rhetoric to Battlefield Reality: Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran

Former JAGs warn that threats to strike Iran’s power plants would violate the law of war and endanger U.S. service members’ legal and moral obligations.

www.justsecurity.org

He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.

How many shit threads have you started today?
You're sick.

 

[Alicia J]

For them it all about the money that they make and the power they have.

They better think of life 8 months from now. Because they're not going to like Trump's destruction of the Republican Party.

 

[0311]

They better think of life 8 months from now. Because they're not going to like Trump's destruction of the Republican Party.

47 never got over the fact Republicans chose Romney over him. He came in to destroy the Republican Party and so far he is doing a great job of it.

 

[Alicia J]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

No. If Trump murders a bunch of Iranian civilians, then he is a terrorist, too.

 

[Lockback]

47 never got over the fact Republicans chose Romney over him. He came in to destroy the Republican Party and so far he is doing a great job of it.

Probably the single most delusional post of the day.
Totally nonsensical.

 

[SaxonJackson]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

The "Well-They-Did-It" argument is erroneous. My neighbor kicking a kid in the face doesn't open some magical door that allows ME to kick a kid in the face.

Our goal is to be better than the criminal mind. Our goal is to follow a moral code, under the watchful eye of God. Our goal is NOT to lower our standards because others have or do.

 

[JLW]

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

The problem is half of Trump’s Cabinet are lunatics. The White House is functionally an insane asylum.

 

[Nostra]

47 never got over the fact Republicans chose Romney over him. He came in to destroy the Republican Party and so far he is doing a great job of it.

Huh?

 

[SaxonJackson]

The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.

And he needs to be tried for treason and war crimes. If found guilty, he deserves the punishment reserved for traitors.

He was supposed to represent the people of the USA but, instead, he went to war at the behest of a foreign entity known for its genocidal disregard for life and for its history of terrorist activity. As a result, Americans have died and millions are suffering from the economic consequences of Trump's "war of choice." He not only put Americans under great economic strain but the entire world is suffering from his foolhardy and reckless and ill-planned "excursion" (as he so glibly calls it).

If he isn't demon possessed then he is a certified madman.