The Donald overrules the FAA...Grounds the Boeing 737

I just cant find where in the constitution this power exists
The FAA is a paramilitary outfit and operates on an interstate basis, ergo it is subject to Presidential Executive Orders as an understandable consequence, imho.
I thought this happened in another country,,,and the premise the FAA works under is not what was meant under original intent of the commerce clause
The country of the plane's origin is the USA, whether we like it or not, and we are held liable if anything bad happens our country sold or took to a foreign country where it crashed. Political maneuvering can place blame wherever it cares to and after taking it to the UN, I'm pretty sure that facts could take on a whole 'nother dimension in the building that is shaped like a shoe made for someone with an ingrown toenail. *sigh*
NO we are not held responsible,,,the company is

So the Company should be held responsible, Mr. P. Hunter?

But you insinuated the exact word had to appear there. Now you admit the Constitution can be left open to interpretation.

Does that mean you have to turn in your “true American” merit badge?
I never insinuated that and thats not an interpretation,,,,you used the word military not me,,I just confirmed what it does say, and both words are interchangeable like rectum and asshole

and NO its not up for interpretation as clarified in the 10th amendment,,,
Sadly, you seem to be suffering from dementia. Yes, it was you who first used the word, “military.” [highlighted for your attention]

airforce is included in the military
Ah, “military,” yet another noun not found in the Constitution. Good one; and thanks for the help in adding to my list.
And yes, you certainly did insinuate words had to be found in the Constitution since your reply to me pointing out the Constitutionality of the FAA’s enforcement of our airspace was to point out you don’t see airspace in there.
military and army is interchangeable and what I insinuated was the 10th amendment is clear as to powers delegated,,,and no where in the constitution does it give the feds let alone POTUS the power over private companies or any of those others you listed,,,

the burden is on you to prove otherwise as to where those powers are in the constitution
I already showed you. It’s to provide for the general welfare of the nation. The federal government can enforce rules and regulations on private businesses when it comes to the safety of the nation or when it comes to enforcing laws against private companies.
since a plane holds just a few hundred and there are 325 million people in the country I dont see the general welfare,,,and the courts are for violations in the law not POTUS

I see this more as a punishment to Boeing for having business outside the country,,,he said they would pay for it
So he's holding the company responsible? Oh, I thought you said, "NO we are not held responsible....the company is."

A personal vendetta or actually doing the right thing--which is it, or are we just fitting puzzle parts together to fit a certain political agenda? Please tell your DNC handlers to make up their minds, because they're making you look not like a talking head, but the opposite end, complete with foot in the mouth..:aug08_031:
 
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As a 50+ years aviation (pilot) experience I am somewhat more suspicious of the training of certain foreign pilots than of Boeing's hardware. Instructions originally in American English do not always translate well into other languages and pose certain difficulties for instructors training those whose primary language is other than American English. Been there; done that.

Note, I said "hardware". Some of today's automated flights systems bring to mind HAL in "Clockwork Orange".
HAL is in 2001 A Space Odyssey, but I agree. HAL is pretty damned scary AI.

The articles I've read, though, the software makes the plane think it's stalling. There are ways to respond. Not everyone has had the training.
How can the computer think the plane is stalling if the air speed indicators are above stall speed? Unless they don't work.....
Not enough sensors....the planes only used one sensor to measure the nose angle

Boeing will now rely on multiple sensors to do this to bypass the possibility of one sensor being faulty.
 

Where the **** do you get "overruled" out of something the FAA and Boeing already agreed to?

What, yer gonna tell us "Rump knows more than the FAA" now?

Nice touch for a klown who couldn't even keep the registration on his own plane up to date....
That guy would have made a great head of the FAA -- how dare you say that!!!
 

Where the **** do you get "overruled" out of something the FAA and Boeing already agreed to?

What, yer gonna tell us "Rump knows more than the FAA" now?

Nice touch for a klown who couldn't even keep the registration on his own plane up to date....
That guy would have made a great head of the FAA -- how dare you say that!!!

Rump "knows more than the engineers". Many people are saying that.
 

As is his custom as a daytime television star, Trump issued an emergency order grounding the 737 Max 8 and the 737 Max 9.

After FAA had already decided to do exactly that.

Passenger Mort Greenberg was waiting at the gate in Miami on American Airlines Flight 2809 when the news broke that President Trump was grounding all Boeing Max 8 planes.

He was scheduled to fly on a Max 8 plane. His flight, however, had already been canceled, according to American Airlines’ website. Within 5 minutes AA had sent him a notice of rebooking without having to ask.

Boeing 737 Max 8 planes grounded after Ethiopian crash: Live updates - CNN

Trump has done this before. As a matter of fact, if there is an important issue somewhere in the world, Trump will thrust himself into the middle of the matter because his narcissistic persona requires him to be at the center of any melodrama. Two identical aircraft crashing within five months of one another fits perfectly for him.

In March 2017, Trump received an envoy from Kim Jong Un's ally, the President of South Korea, Moon Jae-in. Trump liked what he heard from Kim's ally and he immediately decided to meet with the North Korean dictator, something no other President had done for a multitude of reasons. Trump consulted no one before making this decision, not his SecState, not his NSA, and not his intelligence agencies. In fact he made the decision soon after his chat with the envoy.

Trump's decision was so abrupt, there was no one around to announce the decision. So, the envoy did it. South Korean national security adviser Chung Eui-yong told reporters of the decision after meeting with Trump at the White House. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...or-announcement-coming-north-korea/408781002/

Trump just had to get into the act.

Without preliminary agreements, without the involvement of the state department to any measurable degree, the lead diplomat at the Singapore summit, President Trump, experienced total failure.

Naturally, the self-centered Trump had to try again, this time in Hanoi, Vietnam. The Hanoi summit was another debacle and soon afterwards new photographs from commercial satellites showed activity at a variety of sites related to North Korea's space and missile programs. The North seemed to be preparing for a launch.

But, for a few weeks there, Trump was the center of attention.

He became the center of attention again in July of 2018, but for all the wrong reasons. Again without any preliminary agreements and little or no involvement of the state department, our lead diplomat met with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland, a stone's throw from the northern border of Russia. Trump went to Putin, but that was only the beginning of the disaster. He met privately with Putin for two hours, and only interpreters were present. No one, not even Trump's SecState and NSA, knows what was said during those two hours.

But Putin knows.

Then, to a world-wide television audience, Trump said he did not believe his intelligence agencies concerning Russian interference in our Presidential election. He believed Putin because he sounded sincere.

Obviously, Trump became the center of the world's attention ... again. His naiveté was on full display ... again.

Trump just can't help himself. He must get into the act.
 
Trump has done this before. As a matter of fact, if there is an important issue somewhere in the world, Trump will thrust himself into the middle of the matter because his narcissistic persona requires him to be at the center of any melodrama.

And you libtards know all about melodrama, being drama queens and all.

Hows that Resist thing going for ya?
 
No doubt it was a political decision. Judging by the posts by liberal forum members they don't understand what the term "grounded" means. Anger and hatred will do strange things to your brain

Please show us an example.
 
Trump acted.
People lived.
End of story.

We (the US) and Canada haven't had any incidences, but have been limited to third-world country airlines who have many more airline crashes.

A handful of pilots express concerns, 2 jets have crashed within 6 months, and Boeing itself scheduled an update in the autopilot software before the 2nd crash.
What is your problem besides lacking logic?
IT DOES NOT COMPUTE!
 
Trump acted.
People lived.
End of story.

We (the US) and Canada haven't had any incidences, but have been limited to third-world country airlines who have many more airline crashes.

They do huh? Link?
Pogo, the newscasts say that a growing number of countries have banned the planes in their countries. There are no shortages of countries who do not want a crash on their soil. The list is here: U.S., Canada join list of nations banning Boeing 737 Max jets
 
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Trump acted.
People lived.
End of story.

We (the US) and Canada haven't had any incidences, but have been limited to third-world country airlines who have many more airline crashes.

They do huh? Link?
Pogo, the newscasts say that a growing number of countries have banned the planes in their countries. There are no shortages of countries who do not want a crash on their soil. The list is here: U.S., Canada join list of nations banning Boeing 737 Max jets

Yes Beauteous One, I know, we noted that yesterday. We are apparently the last, literally the last country to ground the plane.
 

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