The difference between capitalism and socialism in a nutshell

[PaintMyHouse]

Pictures really are the only way to get the message across...

Communism, not Socialism. Here is Socialism:

Nice eh?

Those are average, run of the mill, everyday workers boats out in front of your Socialist heaven?...Aren't you all supposed to be EQUAL?

Nope, but the playing field is supposed to be level.

Of course it is! That's why those boats AREN'T workers boats! That level field doesn't include the party higher ups!

They have both Capitalism and Socialism there. It works, very well actually.

 

[Political Junky]

If you have a point to make, make it. But you're insinuating an argument you can't even articulate. Let alone factually support. Unregulated capitalism results in horrendous damage to the environment, dirty air and dirty water. Its only through strict regulation and enforcement that this inevitable consequence of unchecked self interest can be mitigated.

If you disagree, tell us why. Make your argument.

Bullshit.

As a communist you will reject outright any argument where I do not support a Commissar making the ultimate decisions.

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You don't know what a communist is. "Communist' is simply a name you call people if you don't agree with them. Especially if they make points you can't refute, nor comprehend.

Unregulated capitalism results in horrendous damage to the environment, dirty air and dirty water. Its only through strict regulation and enforcement that this inevitable consequence of unchecked self interest can be mitigated.

If you disagree, tell us why. Make your argument.

I assume you studied Dialectical Materialism, Marxism-Leninism (yes it is called Marxism-Leninism) therefore, you know who and what a communist is.
Yes, I am sure conservatives want to breathe dirty air and drink dirty water.. are you out of your mind?

You write much like Mark Levin speaks, err rants. There is no, "what a communist is", most are like most Americans, working daily just to get buy. Their leaders are also like our leaders, protecting the status quo is their job security.

Communist leaders are ultra conservative, it matters not what Marx or Lenin wrote, nor how it was justified. All political leaders - elected or otherwise - it's best to watch their feet, not their lips (it's not what they say, it's what they do).

I'd suggest anyone who attempts to comport liberals and progressives as communists or Marxists to read "Darkness at Noon, and "The God that Failed". See how the praxis of Stalin contrasts with the actions of Progressives or liberals and compare the methods used by today's conservatives in their quest to overturn Roe and stop abortions comports with the progressive efforts for social justice.

Oh look more far left propaganda not connected to reality..

You've been busted.

 

[Vigilante]

Pictures really are the only way to get the message across...

Communism, not Socialism. Here is Socialism:

Nice eh?

Those are average, run of the mill, everyday workers boats out in front of your Socialist heaven?...Aren't you all supposed to be EQUAL?

Nope, but the playing field is supposed to be level.

Of course it is! That's why those boats AREN'T workers boats! That level field doesn't include the party higher ups!

They have both Capitalism and Socialism there. It works, very well actually.

It certainly does for the wealthy!

 

[BULLDOG]

The US is also a "Mixed Economy".

kaz
Why no link to the source?

Yes, the US is a mixed economy. There is no Constitutional authority for the Feds to do that, they did it in clear violation of the 10th amendment. Not sure what your point is.

And what link are you referring to?

Where do the Police Department and the Fire department fall in your opinion? Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

 

[BULLDOG]

There are aspects of Socialism that augment and safeguard the citizens without hampering Capitalism. That's what makes arguments against Socialism, like yours which presents either Communism (state control of industry) and Fascism (government directives to industry concerning production) utterly moot.

What "aspects" would those be? There really arent any, or many.

Fire Department, Police Department, Garbage pickup, Road construction and repair, Public Schools. Explain these, and I'll give you another list.

 

[BULLDOG]

capitalism is great until monopolies arise and kill small business...

Which doesnt happen.

Want to explain how that doesn't happen to all the ex-business owners in all the small towns that have a Walmart?

 

[Mac1958]

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These binary, either/or, one-or-the-other arguments are missing the point.

It's about finding equilibrium between the costs and efficiencies of government services and the point at which they create too much drag on a dynamic economy.

There are no "free" markets, there is no pure capitalism, there is very little pure socialism.

We know this, right?

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[BULLDOG]

Please explain why the military is not Socialist or the VA?

The burden of proof is on you.

Miriam Webster
Definition of SOCIALISM
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: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


The collective/government (we are the government, even if you don't want to admit it) owns and administers the military. We all pay for it through taxes. The goods the military produces is their service. Of course the military is purely socialism. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

dear socialism is when central govt owns and manages or controls major industries not when local taxpayers run their local police force.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Where do the Police Department and the Fire department fall in your opinion? Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

you buy insurance and when you have a fire insurance company come to put it out. Do you understand?

 

[BULLDOG]

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Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

dear socialism is when central govt owns and manages or controls major industries not when local taxpayers run their local police force.

Thanks darling, but where did you get that bit of wisdom?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

dear socialism is when central govt owns and manages or controls major industries not when local taxpayers run their local police force.

Thanks darling, but where did you get that bit of wisdom?

you've never heard of the commanding heights????

 

[BULLDOG]

Where do the Police Department and the Fire department fall in your opinion? Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

you buy insurance and when you have a fire insurance company come to put it out. Do you understand?

Right. You actually think that would work? What if you are traveling, and have a car wreck? Would you expect them to just let your car burn because you didn't have insurance in that area? What if the guy next door didn't pay his bill? Are you supposed to wait until your house is on fire too before they turn on the hose? Fire departments have been pure socialism since the old bucket brigade times when everybody in town came running when there was a fire. They are, and will continue to be well liked and needed socialist programs. I noticed you didn't even try to address police.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Right. You actually think that would work? What if you are traveling, and have a car wreck? .

dear, we were talking about fire insurance, not auto insurance. Why not try again?

 

[SwimExpert]

Please explain why the military is not Socialist or the VA?

The burden of proof is on you.

Miriam Webster
Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


The collective/government (we are the government, even if you don't want to admit it) owns and administers the military. We all pay for it through taxes. The goods the military produces is their service. Of course the military is purely socialism. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

Does it hurt to be that stupid? If not, it ought to.

 

[defcon4]

There are aspects of Socialism that augment and safeguard the citizens without hampering Capitalism. That's what makes arguments against Socialism, like yours which presents either Communism (state control of industry) and Fascism (government directives to industry concerning production) utterly moot.

What "aspects" would those be? There really arent any, or many.

Fire Department, Police Department, Garbage pickup, Road construction and repair, Public Schools. Explain these, and I'll give you another list.

OMG! That's you again with way off the wall crap. The above mentioned services paid by taxpayers are not services characteristic only to socialism. They existed before our grandparents were in their infancy and socialism as ideology wasn't even born. Except public schools and garbage pickup (but there were dog catchers) they existed even in feudalist monarchies.
I think many of you communist sympathizers are "over indoctrinated." You at least need to sound credible.

 

[BULLDOG]

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Both are purely socialist programs, so how exactly do you think Capitalism could replace those Socialist programs?

dear socialism is when central govt owns and manages or controls major industries not when local taxpayers run their local police force.

Thanks darling, but where did you get that bit of wisdom?

you've never heard of the commanding heights????

So now you think we have a Communist form of government? Here's a hint. Read the whole thing before you rush to post it. You won't look so dumb quite as often if you do.

 

[BULLDOG]

Right. You actually think that would work? What if you are traveling, and have a car wreck? .

dear, we were talking about fire insurance, not auto insurance. Why not try again?

No darling we are talking about the Fire Department.

 

[BULLDOG]

Please explain why the military is not Socialist or the VA?

The burden of proof is on you.

Miriam Webster
Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


The collective/government (we are the government, even if you don't want to admit it) owns and administers the military. We all pay for it through taxes. The goods the military produces is their service. Of course the military is purely socialism. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

Does it hurt to be that stupid? If not, it ought to.

So that means you can't prove me wrong?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So now you think we have a Communist form of government?

too stupid our subject was not what form of govt we have so I did not comment on that at all. Our subject was about the meaning of socialism. Do you understand these basics?