The Dems just don't get it!

[Redfish]

Okay, I agree in principle, BUT: I'm not at all convinced that submission to partisan ideology is a function of intelligence. The most intelligent person I've ever known, my best friend, is pretty much an ideologue, a Trumpster. To me there is a separation between intelligence and ideology, they seem to run parallel, and I find that pretty freaking fascinating.
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Look, I'll admit there are things Trump has said that I like. His position on killing the TAA, him saying "we kill people to" and his relationship with Putin, are all things I support. Regarding Putin, I think its good they're buddy's. Because you don't fight your friends (unless they're doing your wife).

People for Trump, are not necessarily "baggers". And I, myself, have not drawn any conclusions on this President. I am going to wait for another 18 months before I start doing that. I waited 2 years before deciding Bush was wrong for this country and a year and a half, before withdrawing my support for Obama's policies.

that is a realistic approach. Trump has been in office one month. I would venture that he has done more good things in that month than Bush and Obama did in 16 years.

 

[Redfish]

You misspelled "riots".

HINTHINTHINTHINT!

It's only riots when the right wing brownshirts show up.

"right wing brownshirts" ? Would that be the police? There were no conservatives destroying public and private property, no conservatives attacking innocent bystanders, no conservatives attacking police. Only the left resorts to riots when they don't get their way.

 

[Billo_Really]

please quote when he said that. He didn't. You are lying like all libs lie.

Here you go...

Donald Trump: Republican members of Congress only represent “Republican people” in their districts

 

[Billo_Really]

"right wing brownshirts" ? Would that be the police?

Yes.

There were no conservatives destroying public and private property, no conservatives attacking innocent bystanders, no conservatives attacking police. Only the left resorts to riots when they don't get their way.

What did you say about attacks?

Conservatives are kind and gentle, like this guy...




And they never attack people with opposing views, like this guy...




Really, all one has to do, is look at the many conservative posts at this very website to see the violence in the conservative movement. You don't see the left talking about bustin' immigrant heads or attacking country's that didn't attack you first. The right is all about violence.

 

[Billo_Really]

that is a realistic approach. Trump has been in office one month. I would venture that he has done more good things in that month than Bush and Obama did in 16 years.

I agree with the "one month" comment.

 

[Redfish]

"right wing brownshirts" ? Would that be the police?

Yes.

There were no conservatives destroying public and private property, no conservatives attacking innocent bystanders, no conservatives attacking police. Only the left resorts to riots when they don't get their way.

What did you say about attacks?

Conservatives are kind and gentle, like this guy...




And they never attack people with opposing views, like this guy...




Really, all one has to do, is look at the many conservative posts at this very website to see the violence in the conservative movement. You don't see the left talking about bustin' immigrant heads or attacking country's that didn't attack you first. The right is all about violence.

"all about violence" you just lost all credibility with that statement.

 

[Billo_Really]

Kudos to you for recognizing that the Dumbocrats do in fact suppress constitutional rights. But shame on you for not recognizing that suppressing constitutional rights is the entire reason why liberals/progressives/millennials/hatriots vote for them in the first place. The left is all about forcing their ideology on society. They abhor liberty, freedom, choice, etc.

That's a little hard to believe when you consider all the executive orders that were signed this past month.

 

[Billo_Really]

"all about violence" you just lost all credibility with that statement.

It was the figurative "all", not the literal one.

 

[rightwinger]

The reason Democrats are where they are is they sat back and allowed Republicans to seize control of local and state governments

Wasn't worth the bother

Republicans used it to take control of setting boundaries for state and congressional elections

It is how Republicans rule from a minority

 

[Billo_Really]

WTF does that have to do with this thread?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Liberals need to be even more liberal......when that blows up in their face who are they going to blame next? Hell they are running out of boogiemen to pin the blame on.

Why would it blow up when 2 out of 3 millennials are liberals? Why would it blow up when our numbers are increasing? And why would it blow up when we all see your "blame game" mantra is just bullshit?

The right never accepts responsibility for the shit things they do. The right is just a bunch of irresponsible babies who don't have the stones to take ownership over the things they do and say. That's why you try to project your problems on to the left. It's not boogeymen, it's all the fucked things you are doing to this country, that the left is up in arms about.

And the Dems need to catch the fuckin' clue, they're not going to get votes from the growing liberal population, by kowtowing to the right.

You might want to rethink that....

The student Left’s culture of intolerance is creating a new generation of conservatives

Millennials more conservative than you may think - CNN.com

A New Generation of Conservatives Is on the Rise, Study Finds

 

[Billo_Really]

No rational adult will ever think that facilitating access to victims by extremely sexually deviant people is ok.

That's why you have to prepare for situations like that....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Traditional liberals are fine.

It's the "progressives" and the Regressive Leftists who have put the party in such a shitty position. Nationally.
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It's elected Democrats failing to honor their campaign promises, that is the reason they're in that shitty position.

Which is exactly why Trump was elected.
RINO's promised action on conservative ideals before the midterms and they promptly shit on us when we elected them.

 

[The Original Tree]

Incidentally this is why True Democrats bucked the Liberal Establishment and voted for Trump.

I think you have it wrong. It's liberals who are The Fascists and the Dem Party is infested with them and their Marxist bretheren. Joe six pack Democrat voted for Trump.

It's the radical jihadist liberal wing of the Democrat Party that is demanding Marxism, Socialism, Liberal Fascism and angrily marching in the streets and vandalizing our communities.

Democrats in this country still don't get the fact that they are not going to win anything until they stop kissing the butt of the same sponsors the Reps are kissing and start acting in concert with the real liberal and progressive movements in this country.

The Crisis within the Democratic Party
In one of the most striking political comebacks in U.S. history, the Republican Party marched in lockstep to victory in the midterm elections and seized control of the House of Representatives and state houses across the nation. Republicans made a battle plan, they disciplined their troops, and the corporations paid for the ammunition.​

Unless the Democrats do something drastically differently during the next two years, the rich and powerful will cement their victory around the body of democracy and dump the barrel of freedom into the deep dark waters of cash politics where it will be lost forever.​

The biggest reason the Dems are in the position they are in now, is because liberals can see them for what they really are, which is just the flip side of the republican coin. And you're not going to get liberals, progressives or millennials to vote for you until you stop bailing out Wall Street, suppressing constitutional rights, voting for wars of aggression and compromising with the rich and powerful fascists that run this country.

Look at all the protests across this country today, that's not just because people can't stand right wing representatives, it's because YOU DEMS dropped the ball on democracy!

 

[Mac1958]

"Are Liberals Helping Trump"?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/18/opinion/sunday/are-liberals-helping-trump.html?mwrsm=Facebook

One facet of recent political life has been large-scale protests against Mr. Trump. They have been largely peaceful, but when there is violence, even on the fringes, it tends to reduce popular support for them, Professor Haidt said, citing recent research. And for many Trump voters, even peaceful protests are unsettling.

“I don’t have a problem with protesting as long as it’s peaceful, but this is destroying the country,” said Ann O’Connell, 72, a retired administrative assistant in Syracuse who voted for Mr. Trump. “I feel like we are in some kind of civil war right now. I know people don’t like to use those terms. But I think it’s scary.”

Mrs. O’Connell is a registered Democrat. She voted for Bill Clinton twice. But she has drifted away from the party over what she said was a move from its middle-class economic roots toward identity politics. She remembers Mr. Clinton giving a speech about the dangers of illegal immigration. Mr. Trump was lambasted for offering some of the same ideas, she said.

“The Democratic Party has changed so much that I don’t even recognize it anymore,” she said. “These people are destroying our democracy. They are scarier to me than these Islamic terrorists. I feel absolutely disgusted with them and their antics. It strengthens people’s resolve in wanting to support President Trump. It really does.”
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[The Original Tree]

This can not be said and repeated enough. The Democrat Party is scaring even their own people. Blue Collar Democrats Voted for Trump and that is why he won.

The Democrat Party is infested with Marxist Radicals who have a lot of funding behind them with the stated goal of changing the Constitutuional Inderpinnings of this Nation so they can install a Totalitarian Socialist State.

"Are Liberals Helping Trump"?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/18/opinion/sunday/are-liberals-helping-trump.html?mwrsm=Facebook

One facet of recent political life has been large-scale protests against Mr. Trump. They have been largely peaceful, but when there is violence, even on the fringes, it tends to reduce popular support for them, Professor Haidt said, citing recent research. And for many Trump voters, even peaceful protests are unsettling.

“I don’t have a problem with protesting as long as it’s peaceful, but this is destroying the country,” said Ann O’Connell, 72, a retired administrative assistant in Syracuse who voted for Mr. Trump. “I feel like we are in some kind of civil war right now. I know people don’t like to use those terms. But I think it’s scary.”

Mrs. O’Connell is a registered Democrat. She voted for Bill Clinton twice. But she has drifted away from the party over what she said was a move from its middle-class economic roots toward identity politics. She remembers Mr. Clinton giving a speech about the dangers of illegal immigration. Mr. Trump was lambasted for offering some of the same ideas, she said.

“The Democratic Party has changed so much that I don’t even recognize it anymore,” she said. “These people are destroying our democracy. They are scarier to me than these Islamic terrorists. I feel absolutely disgusted with them and their antics. It strengthens people’s resolve in wanting to support President Trump. It really does.”
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[Billo_Really]

You might want to rethink that....

The student Left’s culture of intolerance is creating a new generation of conservatives

I did not support what went down at Berkley. But you might want think twice about who is intolerant to who, when you consider the current President has silenced all government dept's and banned them from issuing any press releases or emails to the media. You've never seen a democratic President do that.

Millennials more conservative than you may think - CNN.com

From your link...

"So the current view of millennials as liberals might be due to their age -- young people are more likely to be liberal. But if you compare young people now to young people in previous decades, those now are more conservative," she said.
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...but they're still liberal. I, myself, have a conservative side. I don't believe in handouts. I've had a job from the day I got my learners permit to now. I don't believe in living your life at the expense of others. But I'm still a liberal.

A New Generation of Conservatives Is on the Rise, Study Finds

From your link...

"59% of young people responding to the survey said their opinions on same-sex marriage, transgender rights and marijuana was either “conservative” or “moderate” – a drastic swing from Millennials and members of “Generation X”, more than 80% of whom said their opinion was either “quite liberal” or “very liberal”"​

This is an example of the conservative movement becoming more liberal, than it is the other way around.

 

[Mac1958]

This can not be said and repeated enough. The Democrat Party is scaring even their own people. Blue Collar Democrats Voted for Trump and that is why he won.

Bingo. The Regressive Left turned the party into a PC/Identity Politics caricature and gave the election away.
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[Billo_Really]

This can not be said and repeated enough. The Democrat Party is scaring even their own people. Blue Collar Democrats Voted for Trump and that is why he won.

That's the point of this thread! The Dems need to realize we're not going to tolerate this shit anymore.

The Democrat Party is infested with Marxist Radicals who have a lot of funding behind them with the stated goal of changing the Constitutuional Inderpinnings of this Nation so they can install a Totalitarian Socialist State.

So you're saying Trump got the Marxist Radical vote?

 

[Billo_Really]

Bingo. The Regressive Left turned the party into a PC/Identity Politics caricature and gave the election away.
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Are you claiming I'm PC? Really?