"The Democrats start with 246 electoral votes"

[Zander]

Democrats win a few elections and suddenly they are the ones talking about a "permanent majority"...

One thing about politics- things can and do change quickly.

 

[Nyvin]

It's hard to imagine a Democrat going below 210 EV's, but 246 might be a little high. I probably wouldn't include PA, WI, or NH in that list of "blue states", although NM probably should be on it.

 

[JoeB131]

I am really tired of the left wing continuing to lie out their asses. The same SCOTUS that made law concering Obamacare and Gay marriage that you on the left LOVE ruled properly there was no stealing. Gore couldn't even win his own state, he is the one who tried to steal an election. Every recount said Bush won.

Well, no it wasn't the same SCOTUS. It has 4 new members it didn't have in 2000.

Bush stole the election. Deal with it.

You top it off whit the southern strategy lies. Those who keep trying to make the southern strategy about racism have had their ass handed to them so much it isn't funny but yet you continue on. Time to grow up and be honest.

Of course the Southern Strategy was about Racism. LBJ said when he passed the civil rights act, "I've lost the South for a Generation". If only he knew.

I don't mind debate, I don't mind conflicting opinions but when a post is nothing but regenerated lies that kinda gets under my skin.

Guy, you made your decision to play on White Fear rather than bringing us together. Now it doesn't work for you anymore.

 

[jwoodie]

Bush stole the election. Deal with it.

Like Obama is a Muslim? Deal with that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What's the last time they won pa and wi??? Not in the current demographics....

Also it is stupid to run on cutting the shit out of infrastructure, science, r&d and education.

 

[GHook93]

I'm seeing threads about polls on the direction of the country and Obama's numbers, but elections remain all about electoral votes. This piece is written by a conservative writer and blogger named Myra Adams:

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever?

From the piece, the key point:

3. The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

As Republicans gear up to “take back the White House” conservatives need to be aware of one startling fact: in 2012 if Romney had won the three swing states of Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, he still would have lost the election.


If you want to explore this new reality, check out www.270towin.com. There you can play around with the interactive map and plot out your favorite candidate’s path to 270.

For instance, let’s look at Wisconsin, with its 10 electoral votes. Every four years the Republican mindset says Wisconsin will be a swing state. Then, a few months into the campaign the state loses it’s coveted “battleground” status as polls begin to show its “blue” reality. The truth is that not since 1984, when Reagan won in a landslide against Walter Mondale, has Wisconsin seen red.

Or take Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes, and New York, with 29—both have been blue since Bill Clinton won them in 1992, and blue they will remain. Then there’s the mega-rich electoral state of California with its 55 votes that turned red for the last time in 1988 when George H.W. Bush won that “California guy” Reagan’s “third term.”


After totaling the electoral votes in all the terminally blue states, an inconvenient math emerges, providing even a below average Democrat presidential candidate a potential starting advantage of 246. Here are the states and their votes: CA (55), NY (29), PA (20), IL (20), MI (16), NJ (14), WA (12), MA (11), MN (10), WI (10), MD (10), CT (7), OR (7), HI (4), ME (4), NH (4), RT (4), VT (3), DE (3), DC (3).

Let me repeat, if only for the shock value: 246 votes out of 270 is 91 percent. That means the Democrat candidate needs to win only 24 more votes out of the remaining 292. (There are a total of 538 electoral votes.)

Thoughts?
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It's true! I can't see another Republican ever winning ever again. You could take the winner of the Democratic primary and put him on the Republican ticket and run him against the 5th place finisher and he would get slaughtered.


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[ScienceRocks]

I'm seeing threads about polls on the direction of the country and Obama's numbers, but elections remain all about electoral votes. This piece is written by a conservative writer and blogger named Myra Adams:

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever?

From the piece, the key point:

3. The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

As Republicans gear up to “take back the White House” conservatives need to be aware of one startling fact: in 2012 if Romney had won the three swing states of Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, he still would have lost the election.


If you want to explore this new reality, check out www.270towin.com. There you can play around with the interactive map and plot out your favorite candidate’s path to 270.

For instance, let’s look at Wisconsin, with its 10 electoral votes. Every four years the Republican mindset says Wisconsin will be a swing state. Then, a few months into the campaign the state loses it’s coveted “battleground” status as polls begin to show its “blue” reality. The truth is that not since 1984, when Reagan won in a landslide against Walter Mondale, has Wisconsin seen red.

Or take Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes, and New York, with 29—both have been blue since Bill Clinton won them in 1992, and blue they will remain. Then there’s the mega-rich electoral state of California with its 55 votes that turned red for the last time in 1988 when George H.W. Bush won that “California guy” Reagan’s “third term.”


After totaling the electoral votes in all the terminally blue states, an inconvenient math emerges, providing even a below average Democrat presidential candidate a potential starting advantage of 246. Here are the states and their votes: CA (55), NY (29), PA (20), IL (20), MI (16), NJ (14), WA (12), MA (11), MN (10), WI (10), MD (10), CT (7), OR (7), HI (4), ME (4), NH (4), RT (4), VT (3), DE (3), DC (3).

Let me repeat, if only for the shock value: 246 votes out of 270 is 91 percent. That means the Democrat candidate needs to win only 24 more votes out of the remaining 292. (There are a total of 538 electoral votes.)

Thoughts?
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It's true! I can't see another Republican ever winning ever again. You could take the winner of the Democratic primary and put him on the Republican ticket and run him against the 5th place finisher and he would get slaughtered.


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Yep,,,I keep repeating the reason for this all over the board!

 

[Freewill]

QUOTE]What exact real count did Bush lose?

That's the point, shit-for-brains. There was no "real count" because the the Bush team sued to stop the real count that the Florida SC had ordered.

Damn, you're stupid.

On the plus side, you're not a liar, being you're actually stupid enough to honestly believe the crap you spout.

He won the REAL count and the counts after. BTW if there were no other counts then how can you make the statement that Gore won them all?

 

[Freewill]

I am really tired of the left wing continuing to lie out their asses. The same SCOTUS that made law concering Obamacare and Gay marriage that you on the left LOVE ruled properly there was no stealing. Gore couldn't even win his own state, he is the one who tried to steal an election. Every recount said Bush won.

Well, no it wasn't the same SCOTUS. It has 4 new members it didn't have in 2000.

Bush stole the election. Deal with it.

You top it off whit the southern strategy lies. Those who keep trying to make the southern strategy about racism have had their ass handed to them so much it isn't funny but yet you continue on. Time to grow up and be honest.

Of course the Southern Strategy was about Racism. LBJ said when he passed the civil rights act, "I've lost the South for a Generation". If only he knew.

I don't mind debate, I don't mind conflicting opinions but when a post is nothing but regenerated lies that kinda gets under my skin.

Guy, you made your decision to play on White Fear rather than bringing us together. Now it doesn't work for you anymore.

Guy, where did I play to white fear? You lie like all liberals lie. Johnson, you are going to quote Johnson? Really he was the worse of the flaming democrat two faced lying racists.

 

[Freewill]

Democrats win a few elections and suddenly they are the ones talking about a "permanent majority"...

One thing about politics- things can and do change quickly.

What the liars don't mention is that after about 6 years of democrat control the people kicked them to the curb in the house then they kicked them to the curb a few years later in the Senate. Obama wins an almost forgone conclusion and they think that a mandate. There has to be a name for the liberals special kind of mental illness.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Freewall,

Whites made up 88% of the electorate in 1980 compared to 72% in 2012. This number was near 81% when Bush was elected! This likely has fallen to around 70% for 2016!

Tell me how and why you have nothing to worry about and somehow we will go back to the 1980's! lol

Blacks vote against republicans big time
Hispanics have gone from 2 to 3% to 10%! I wouldn't be surprised if this goes up to 14-15% if you piss them off.
Asians have gone from a non-group(less then 1% in 1980) to 3%.
Woman have gone from less then men as a voting group to 2-3% higher then men.

Things change...My belief's are based on facts.

 

[Katzndogz]

You don't know what the effect of the war on the police will have with the DNC supporting murderers like they do.

 

[Katzndogz]

White alone, percent, 2013 (a) 77.7% Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a) 13.2% American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2013 (a) 1.2% Asian alone, percent, 2013 (a) 5.3% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 2013 (a) 0.2% Two or More Races, percent, 2013 2.4% Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013 (b) 17.1%

We've been shoveling Hispanics in by the tens of thousands, how many will vote, that's a different story. Not all illegals vote in our elections. Blacks as an electoral force are diminishing year by year. They are killing themselves and aborting themselves into a non entity. There are fewer black people alive today then there was in 1920.

 

[Nyvin]

White alone, percent, 2013 (a) 77.7% Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a) 13.2% American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2013 (a) 1.2% Asian alone, percent, 2013 (a) 5.3% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 2013 (a) 0.2% Two or More Races, percent, 2013 2.4% Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2013 (b) 17.1%

We've been shoveling Hispanics in by the tens of thousands, how many will vote, that's a different story. Not all illegals vote in our elections. Blacks as an electoral force are diminishing year by year. They are killing themselves and aborting themselves into a non entity. There are fewer black people alive today then there was in 1920.

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[Toro]

Hillary will probably win, but it's going to be a lot closer than most Democrats think.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm seeing threads about polls on the direction of the country and Obama's numbers, but elections remain all about electoral votes. This piece is written by a conservative writer and blogger named Myra Adams:

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever?

From the piece, the key point:

3. The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

As Republicans gear up to “take back the White House” conservatives need to be aware of one startling fact: in 2012 if Romney had won the three swing states of Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, he still would have lost the election.


If you want to explore this new reality, check out www.270towin.com. There you can play around with the interactive map and plot out your favorite candidate’s path to 270.

For instance, let’s look at Wisconsin, with its 10 electoral votes. Every four years the Republican mindset says Wisconsin will be a swing state. Then, a few months into the campaign the state loses it’s coveted “battleground” status as polls begin to show its “blue” reality. The truth is that not since 1984, when Reagan won in a landslide against Walter Mondale, has Wisconsin seen red.

Or take Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes, and New York, with 29—both have been blue since Bill Clinton won them in 1992, and blue they will remain. Then there’s the mega-rich electoral state of California with its 55 votes that turned red for the last time in 1988 when George H.W. Bush won that “California guy” Reagan’s “third term.”


After totaling the electoral votes in all the terminally blue states, an inconvenient math emerges, providing even a below average Democrat presidential candidate a potential starting advantage of 246. Here are the states and their votes: CA (55), NY (29), PA (20), IL (20), MI (16), NJ (14), WA (12), MA (11), MN (10), WI (10), MD (10), CT (7), OR (7), HI (4), ME (4), NH (4), RT (4), VT (3), DE (3), DC (3).

Let me repeat, if only for the shock value: 246 votes out of 270 is 91 percent. That means the Democrat candidate needs to win only 24 more votes out of the remaining 292. (There are a total of 538 electoral votes.)

Thoughts?
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As already correctly noted: this is a problem republicans themselves created – the cumulative effect of conservative hostility toward privacy rights, voting rights, gay Americans, and Hispanic immigrants, among others, have driven away the weak democrats and democratic-leaning independents and moderates the GOP candidate will need to win the GE.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hillary will probably win, but it's going to be a lot closer than most Democrats think.

Every democrat knows it's going to be a close election – whomever their candidate.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm seeing threads about polls on the direction of the country and Obama's numbers, but elections remain all about electoral votes. This piece is written by a conservative writer and blogger named Myra Adams:

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever?

From the piece, the key point:

3. The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

As Republicans gear up to “take back the White House” conservatives need to be aware of one startling fact: in 2012 if Romney had won the three swing states of Ohio, Florida, and Virginia, he still would have lost the election.


If you want to explore this new reality, check out www.270towin.com. There you can play around with the interactive map and plot out your favorite candidate’s path to 270.

For instance, let’s look at Wisconsin, with its 10 electoral votes. Every four years the Republican mindset says Wisconsin will be a swing state. Then, a few months into the campaign the state loses it’s coveted “battleground” status as polls begin to show its “blue” reality. The truth is that not since 1984, when Reagan won in a landslide against Walter Mondale, has Wisconsin seen red.

Or take Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes, and New York, with 29—both have been blue since Bill Clinton won them in 1992, and blue they will remain. Then there’s the mega-rich electoral state of California with its 55 votes that turned red for the last time in 1988 when George H.W. Bush won that “California guy” Reagan’s “third term.”


After totaling the electoral votes in all the terminally blue states, an inconvenient math emerges, providing even a below average Democrat presidential candidate a potential starting advantage of 246. Here are the states and their votes: CA (55), NY (29), PA (20), IL (20), MI (16), NJ (14), WA (12), MA (11), MN (10), WI (10), MD (10), CT (7), OR (7), HI (4), ME (4), NH (4), RT (4), VT (3), DE (3), DC (3).

Let me repeat, if only for the shock value: 246 votes out of 270 is 91 percent. That means the Democrat candidate needs to win only 24 more votes out of the remaining 292. (There are a total of 538 electoral votes.)

Thoughts?
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The geographical split is a lot like 1860. The question is how many of the swing states will vote for more Obama/Clinton. If the Democrats win again, the GOP should be disbanded in favor of a new political party.

Nonsense.

During the 20 year period from 1968 to 1988, democrats won only one GE, 1976.

During the 40 year period from 1969 to 2009, democrats held the WH for only 12 of those 40 years.

After losing what was supposed to be 'their' election in 1988, democrats finally fixed the problem, and relegated the liberals and far left to the political backseat; since 1992 democrats have won four of the last six General Elections.

If republicans lose 'their' election in 2016, perhaps as did democrats, the GOP will fix their problem and relegate conservatives and the far right to the political backseat.

 

[Toro]

Hillary will probably win, but it's going to be a lot closer than most Democrats think.

Every democrat knows it's going to be a close election – whomever their candidate.

"Every" Democrat?

I don't think so.

Democrats are very arrogant about 2016. Just read this board.

Stat thinks Hillary is going to win 400+ electoral votes.

That's not going to happen.

 

[Stephanie]

Bush at this time in office was around 20% compared to 50% for Obama. Obama isn't doing too bad!

The reason the democrats have 246 electoral votes right out of the gate is because most people want their government to govern. They don't want cut, slash and burn! They want infrastructure, science institutions, police, education, minimum wage, ssi, and on down the list. They believe republicans are fucking crazy.

why don't you just come out and say you all want Socialism and to enslave our children, grandchildren to what will be their MASTERS in the loving and giving party of the Democrats who can not only give it but also threaten to take it away if you don't bow to them or get out of line. It seems there is never ENOUGH that most of you Want want want or care it comes off the BACK of others in the country