The Democratic Brand Is In The Basement, "It Is Total And Complete Garbage In The Mind Of The American People"

[j-mac]

They suck at politics. It's not complicated. If Democrats did more to help the poor, then Trump would be making Season 25 of the Apprentice right now.....on the shitty Fox Business channel.

Why do you suppose they abandoned the poor, and working class?

But that is a different issue. Trump knows that people full of hate like you want to be lied to.....and that is why you support him.

Just can’t help yourself can you? Is that an example of education? Insult?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Why do you suppose they abandoned the poor, and working class?

Their wealthy billionaire and corporate donors.....people who don't care about policies that help the poor. People who think these policies will hurt their massive wealth.

The Democratic Party became too corrupt over the past 20 - 30 years. They became the party of Big Business, just like the Republican Party did.

Which is why it's laughable when unsophisticated, moronic MAGA rubes call Democrats "socialists" or "communists".

****....I wish the Democrats were socialists. Then maybe we would have Medicare For All....which Obama and the Democrats chickened out on in 2009 when they had the chance. Now, we are going to be stuck with this horrible Big Ugly Bill and millions of people losing Medicaid so that billionaires can get even bigger tax cuts.

Bernie Sanders is about the only politician that I respect, because he does not accept corporate campaign donations. He was correct in 2016 about the rich and powerful destroying this country and he is even more correct now. And he would have defeated Trump in 2016 if Democratic voters were smarter.

Just can’t help yourself can you? Is that an example of education? Insult?

I don't think you really believe half the bullshit that Trump tells you. At the end of the day, you just want to be lied to....because your hatred of Democrats is more important to you than being lied to by Trump.

 

[j-mac]

Their wealthy billionaire and corporate donors.....people who don't care about policies that help the poor. People who think these policies will hurt their massive wealth.

The Democratic Party became too corrupt over the past 20 - 30 years. They became the party of Big Business, just like the Republican Party did.

Which is why it's laughable when unsophisticated, moronic MAGA rubes call Democrats "socialists" or "communists".

****....I wish the Democrats were socialists. Then maybe we would have Medicare For All....which Obama and the Democrats chickened out on in 2009 when they had the chance. Now, we are going to be stuck with this horrible Big Ugly Bill and millions of people losing Medicaid so that billionaires can get even bigger tax cuts.

Bernie Sanders is about the only politician that I respect, because he does not accept corporate campaign donations. He was correct in 2016 about the rich and powerful destroying this country and he is even more correct now. And he would have defeated Trump in 2016 if Democratic voters were smarter.


I don't think you really believe half the bullshit that Trump tells you. At the end of the day, you just want to be lied to....because your hatred of Democrats is more important to you than being lied to by Trump.

I appreciate the response not being the usual attack…

Individual democrats may not consider themselves socialists, or communist, but that’s because IMHO, they simply don’t understand what these ideologies are. Bernie is absolutely a socialist at heart, and he’ll even tell you such, but he doesn’t want the rules he champions to affect himself. He used to rail on “the millionaires and billionaires” until HE became a millionaire, then he dropped them. I think people that support his BS are being duped by him, but it’s a free country, you support whom you wish.

I reject the assessment of me by you that “I want to be lied to”… That’s just ridiculous. But, for most of my conservative life, I’ve been disappointed by Republicans that talk a good game to get elected, then get to DC and leave their spines at home. Which is why a disrupter like Trump has appeal. And, Trump at least does what he campaigned on. That hasn’t been the case in DC for a long time.

Trump is not a conservative, he’s a doer. Just take the border for one example. Biden said he couldn’t do anything without some magic new law. That was BS!…Trump came in and shut it down using existing law, and unleashing the BP to do their jobs. Remarkable turnaround…

But, I do know this Doc, unless dems wake up to the fact that they lost, and why they lost, they’re not going to win. They haven’t changed their stances since the election, and they were rejected at the polls. I have never seen anything like this….They used to be more clever. And the current rhetoric of hating the republicans that voted for Trump is repulsive. These are your neighbors, even your family. Being assholes that are constantly elevating rhetoric of violence is NOT the path…

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I appreciate the response not being the usual attack…

You're welcome. You don't seem as hopelessly MAGA as most of these racist bumpkins.

Individual democrats may not consider themselves socialists, or communist, but that’s because IMHO, they simply don’t understand what these ideologies are. Bernie is absolutely a socialist at heart, and he’ll even tell you such, but he doesn’t want the rules he champions to affect himself. He used to rail on “the millionaires and billionaires” until HE became a millionaire, then he dropped them. I think people that support his BS are being duped by him, but it’s a free country, you support whom you wish.

You're being dishonest again....Bernie held a massive rally in West Virginia yesterday -- WEST VIRGINIA. And he attacked millionaires and billionaires like he always does....for promoting policies that hurt the poor and middle class.

And you're being duped by Trump. Disastrous legislation like the Big Beautiful Bill and these idiotic tariffs are just going to make your life harder and the lives of millions of other Trump voters harder.

I reject the assessment of me by you that “I want to be lied to”… That’s just ridiculous. But, for most of my conservative life, I’ve been disappointed by Republicans that talk a good game to get elected, then get to DC and leave their spines at home. Which is why a disrupter like Trump has appeal. And, Trump at least does what he campaigned on. That hasn’t been the case in DC for a long time.

Trump is certainly a disrupter....but not in a good way. And he also lies to you every single ******* day. And you honestly don't seem to care.

Trump is not a conservative, he’s a doer. Just take the border for one example. Biden said he couldn’t do anything without some magic new law. That was BS!…Trump came in and shut it down using existing law, and unleashing the BP to do their jobs. Remarkable turnaround…

Trump is breaking the law. Many people that cross the border have legitimate asylum claims because of human rights abuses they faced in their home countries. And Trump and Noem are just completely ignoring this aspect of why thousands of illegal immigrants seek refuge here.

It makes you feel good that Trump is being a total "tough guy" at the border....but he is breaking the law and being a heartless asshole in the process.

But, I do know this Doc, unless dems wake up to the fact that they lost, and why they lost, they’re not going to win.

Yeah...they need to listen to people like Bernie Sanders and do more to help the poor and marginalized.

They haven’t changed their stances since the election, and they were rejected at the polls. I have never seen anything like this….They used to be more clever.

Yeah...Democrats were more clever in the 1960s. Not since then. That's why they have very few significant achievements since the 1960s.

But the Republicans have no significant achievements.....besides Nixon creating the EPA in the 1970s.

And the current rhetoric of hating the republicans that voted for Trump is repulsive. These are your neighbors, even your family. Being assholes that are constantly elevating rhetoric of violence is NOT the path…

You all do not value democracy. It's not precious to you, like it is for us. What Trump and those MAGA traitor assholes did on Jan 6 is an automatic disqualifier from ever holding elected office again. It's like we now have Jefferson Davis in the White House.

 

[j-mac]

You're welcome. You don't seem as hopelessly MAGA as most of these racist bumpkins.


You're being dishonest again....Bernie held a massive rally in West Virginia yesterday -- WEST VIRGINIA. And he attacked millionaires and billionaires like he always does....for promoting policies that hurt the poor and middle class.

And you're being duped by Trump. Disastrous legislation like the Big Beautiful Bill and these idiotic tariffs are just going to make your life harder and the lives of millions of other Trump voters harder.


Trump is certainly a disrupter....but not in a good way. And he also lies to you every single ******* day. And you honestly don't seem to care.


Trump is breaking the law. Many people that cross the border have legitimate asylum claims because of human rights abuses they faced in their home countries. And Trump and Noem are just completely ignoring this aspect of why thousands of illegal immigrants seek refuge here.

It makes you feel good that Trump is being a total "tough guy" at the border....but he is breaking the law and being a heartless asshole in the process.


Yeah...they need to listen to people like Bernie Sanders and do more to help the poor and marginalized.


Yeah...Democrats were more clever in the 1960s. Not since then. That's why they have very few significant achievements since the 1960s.

But the Republicans have no significant achievements.....besides Nixon creating the EPA in the 1970s.


You all do not value democracy. It's not precious to you, like it is for us. What Trump and those MAGA traitor assholes did on Jan 6 is an automatic disqualifier from ever holding elected office again. It's like we now have Jefferson Davis in the White House.

I have to get ready to go to my daughter’s house now for her birthday, so I don’t have the time to address this as needed. But, I hope you will remember the more rational tone, and we can pick this up tomorrow, if that’s ok with you?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I have to get ready to go to my daughter’s house now for her birthday, so I don’t have the time to address this as needed. But, I hope you will remember the more rational tone, and we can pick this up tomorrow, if that’s ok with you?

That's fine. Happy Birthday to your daughter.

I'm always rational, just rude to MAGA assholes.

You are polite, but usually not very rational.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

MAGAs just ignore smarty pants book learning stuff and facts......like

The Only Book Princeton Produces Is the Social Register

Appropriately named, because its controlling student clique is a ton of princes: preordained to rule over the excluded 99%.

 

[toobfreak]

Agreed. They’ve started pushing MAGA and fake news just like FOX and Breitbart.

Wow, when a place like CNN starts pushing MAGA, it must mean that MAGA is really winning and democrats are being forced to see the light, much like now everyone is finally admitting they knew Joe was just a potted plant.

The left doesn’t tolerate lying. We fact check EVERYTHING.

Except by the Left. There is a lie involved in most everything the Left does, and your "fact-checking" is only there to rubber stamp everything the left does as 100% good as gold while declaring everything else fascist, Nazi, and dictatorial.

YOU believe what Trump tells you.

Actually, far from the truth. Once again, you project yourself onto others.

 

[Marener]

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If Republicans were that confident, I doubt they’d be trying to gerrymander so much.

 

[schmidlap]

The nation has a problem.

The Repubs have surrendered to Trumpery.

Trump is shit in all major public polls and he is incapable of acknowledging that reality.

There is no viable, unified opposition.

Yet.

That mythical, demonic "left" that festers in some noggins is unrelated to reality.

 

[scruffy]

So, let’s see your wonderful mind at work here…

What’s wrong with your democrats today? Why can’t they get it together?

The common Democrat is being taken for a ride by the party leadership. People like Pelosi and Schumer (and Hillary), the career types, are corrupt as hell, they have the scruples of an iguana. They bring in the money, is what they do. Same reason Maxine Waters is still around. Money is how the leadership controls the rest of the party. It's why they all vote as a bloc on just about everything.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[j-mac]

You're welcome. You don't seem as hopelessly MAGA as most of these racist bumpkins.


You're being dishonest again....Bernie held a massive rally in West Virginia yesterday -- WEST VIRGINIA. And he attacked millionaires and billionaires like he always does....for promoting policies that hurt the poor and middle class.

IMHO, Socialists never tell the truth when promoting their agendas. While they may start out with all intentions of helping those disadvantaged people, they quickly learn that the wealthy get to a point where they either run out of money to fork over, or they, in an act of self preservation, flee the burdensome taxation, leaving the grand plan unfunded forcing the in power socialist to start going after the very people with the broadest tax base. The middle.

Since the wealthy either leave, or go broke themselves, the Socialist then takes over production, and total power leads to total corruption, leaving the actual know how in running these things out, and ally’s of the socialist who know little to nothing in their place, ruining the business, causing shortages, and bankruptcy of the business.

At that point the only thing left is to inflate the money by pushing out fiat currency, and destroying the value. In turn screwing the very people the Socialist vowed to help.

And you're being duped by Trump. Disastrous legislation like the Big Beautiful Bill and these idiotic tariffs are just going to make your life harder and the lives of millions of other Trump voters harder.

If that is truly the case, then Dems should get out of the way, it would be a landslide for them in terms of regaining office.

Trump is certainly a disrupter....but not in a good way. And he also lies to you every single ******* day. And you honestly don't seem to care.

Well, Trump on some things does put out some jaw dropping stuff, but, it’s funny that after all the teeth gnashing, and garment rendering is done, he was usually right in many cases.

Trump is breaking the law. Many people that cross the border have legitimate asylum claims because of human rights abuses they faced in their home countries. And Trump and Noem are just completely ignoring this aspect of why thousands of illegal immigrants seek refuge here.

No one country can support the entire world. True refugees should seek that safe harbor in the first safe country, not half way around the world…And if they are so proud of their home heritage, they should fight to make their country more like the US, rather than coming here and fighting to turn the US into what they’re fleeing.

It makes you feel good that Trump is being a total "tough guy" at the border....but he is breaking the law and being a heartless asshole in the process.

Having a heart, and being the worlds dumb rich friend are two different things.

Yeah...they need to listen to people like Bernie Sanders and do more to help the poor and marginalized.

You can only do so much for people that refuse to help themselves.

Yeah...Democrats were more clever in the 1960s. Not since then. That's why they have very few significant achievements since the 1960s.

But the Republicans have no significant achievements.....besides Nixon creating the EPA in the 1970s.

Well, I think we both know that’s just not true. But that would be an interesting thread to start if every thread didn’t devolve into a free for all insult fest.

You all do not value democracy. It's not precious to you, like it is for us. What Trump and those MAGA traitor assholes did on Jan 6 is an automatic disqualifier from ever holding elected office again. It's like we now have Jefferson Davis in the White House.

It’s not Republicans now increasingly calling for violence, and harm to come to their ideological opponents…This path we’re on can only lead to one path if we continue to ignore that individuals have different beliefs about what is best for the country, and refuse to listen to each other.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

IMHO, Socialists never tell the truth when promoting their agendas.

And Trump is telling you the truth??? He said he didn't know anything about Project 2025 last year....but he is fully implementing the Project 2025 agenda 100%.

While they may start out with all intentions of helping those disadvantaged people, they quickly learn that the wealthy get to a point where they either run out of money to fork over, or they, in an act of self preservation, flee the burdensome taxation, leaving the grand plan unfunded forcing the in power socialist to start going after the very people with the broadest tax base. The middle.

Republican's crony capitalism is far worse....where the rich always win no matter what.

Look at the stock market crash in 2008....not one of those Wall Street banking assholes went to jail for the fraud they committed. Republicans on Wall Street and in Congress loved socialism in 2008 - 2009.....when our government gave Wall Street billions of dollars and saved their worthless asses from going bankrupt.

Republicans are total hypocrites when it comes to the "socialism" boogeyman.....PERIOD.

In 1980, CEOs only made 30 times as much as the average American. Now, CEOs make over 300 times as much as the average American. Republican policies have hurt the poor and middle class far more than the socialism boogeyman that you are complaining about.

You were obviously raised on the belief that socialism is bad. But Republican's crony capitalism has caused far more damage to this country over the past 40 years.

Since the wealthy either leave, or go broke themselves, the Socialist then takes over production, and total power leads to total corruption, leaving the actual know how in running these things out, and ally’s of the socialist who know little to nothing in their place, ruining the business, causing shortages, and bankruptcy of the business.

Again, more fantasies that have never happened in this country.

At that point the only thing left is to inflate the money by pushing out fiat currency, and destroying the value. In turn screwing the very people the Socialist vowed to help.

If that is truly the case, then Dems should get out of the way, it would be a landslide for them in terms of regaining office.

Most voters are not educated and they are not smart. If they were, someone as horrible as Trump would not be in the White House.

Well, Trump on some things does put out some jaw dropping stuff, but, it’s funny that after all the teeth gnashing, and garment rendering is done, he was usually right in many cases.

Yeah? About what?

No one country can support the entire world. True refugees should seek that safe harbor in the first safe country, not half way around the world…And if they are so proud of their home heritage, they should fight to make their country more like the US, rather than coming here and fighting to turn the US into what they’re fleeing.

Well, we certainly can't help the world as much when we are giving ridiculous massive tax cuts to billionaires.

Ending USAID was an absolute sin and Trump and Musk should burn in hell for eternity for doing that. That $50 billion per year organization saved the lives of millions of poor people. Not only that, it improved global stability and built goodwill throughout the world for this country.....which also matters, unless you want more terrorist attacks on the U.S. and more wars.

Having a heart, and being the worlds dumb rich friend are two different things.

You can only do so much for people that refuse to help themselves.

Well, I think we both know that’s just not true. But that would be an interesting thread to start if every thread didn’t devolve into a free for all insult fest.

It’s not Republicans now increasingly calling for violence, and harm to come to their ideological opponents…This path we’re on can only lead to one path if we continue to ignore that individuals have different beliefs about what is best for the country, and refuse to listen to each other.

Actions speak louder than words. Republicans did cause violence on Jan 6 and tried to steal an election.....and any decent person would have walked away from that insane, dangerous fascist political party after that.

 

[Luckyone]

This is from CNN, not Fox News. Ouch. Democrats are in a world of trouble. Kamala Harris bypassed a run for California governor and now polls at just 6% to be the 2028 nominee.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/08/02/enten_the_democratic_brand_is_in_the_basement_it_is_total_and_complete_garbage_in_the_mind_of_the_american_people.html

Whatever, this is still the reality now

 

[MarathonMike]

"Trump Is A Pedophile Protector!"

That's a winning, accurate slogan....

Trump isn't running, genius. And where was all of this hysteria over "Pedophile Protection" when the Biden administration had the Epstein files under lock and key?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Trump isn't running, genius. And where was all of this hysteria over "Pedophile Protection" when the Biden administration had the Epstein files under lock and key?

Trump promised to release the files, simp.

He lied to you and you are simply too stupid to even care.

 

[j-mac]

And Trump is telling you the truth???

Time will tell on that, no?

He said he didn't know anything about Project 2025 last year....but he is fully implementing the Project 2025 agenda 100%.

The Heritage white paper is pretty large. Can you expand on what you're talking about here?

Republican's crony capitalism is far worse....where the rich always win no matter what.

So called "crony capitalism" is not relegated to Republican's only...

Look at the stock market crash in 2008....not one of those Wall Street banking assholes went to jail for the fraud they committed. Republicans on Wall Street and in Congress loved socialism in 2008 - 2009.....when our government gave Wall Street billions of dollars and saved their worthless asses from going bankrupt.

There are many things in this country that could be defined as Socialist if you really look at it...That's one thing I've long thought is so silly about the argument...The United States mixes Socialist programs with Capitalist structure. And, it's that fragile mix that works out of compassionate nature of the American people. But, tilt that too far, and it's disastrous.

Republicans are total hypocrites when it comes to the "socialism" boogeyman.....PERIOD.

I would expect you to feel that way, but I disagree.

In 1980, CEOs only made 30 times as much as the average American. Now, CEOs make over 300 times as much as the average American. Republican policies have hurt the poor and middle class far more than the socialism boogeyman that you are complaining about.

This is such a strange way of thinking here...What I hear you saying is that the person who starts the business, grows the business, and employs multitudes of people in that business, providing an opportunity for those less fortunate to make a living, is attacked because he took the risk to start the business, and enjoy the fruits of his sacrifice? Why then would anyone go into business? And why are those that are disgruntled, or envious of what the CEO has, not starting their own business to compete if they have a better way?

You were obviously raised on the belief that socialism is bad.

Because it is bad. History proves it.

But Republican's crony capitalism has caused far more damage to this country over the past 40 years.

Democrats are not immune from "crony capitalism" Obama showed you this with his subsidizing Green companies like Solyndra that received huge government grants then took the cash and disappeared.

If Democrats Truly Wanted To Level the Playing Field, They’d End Crony Corporate Handouts

How to best ensure substantial long-run economic growth should be a question on everyone's mind. Its benefits can't be overstated,…

reason.com

Again, more fantasies that have never happened in this country.

Again, a difference of opinion, that I believe at this moment won't be bridged.

Most voters are not educated and they are not smart. If they were, someone as horrible as Trump would not be in the White House.

That's a pretty horrible view of your fellow citizen. Why not make the case through better ideas, instead of degradation...?

Yeah? About what?

Persecution of him for one....What we saw in a Democrat administration violating his civil rights and ransacking his home, along with a scatter shot of criminal suits all designed to stop him from running again and jail him, instead of beat him at the ballot box.

Well, we certainly can't help the world as much when we are giving ridiculous massive tax cuts to billionaires.

Should achieving wealth be outlawed in the United States? And what would that look like?

Ending USAID was an absolute sin and Trump and Musk should burn in hell for eternity for doing that. That $50 billion per year organization saved the lives of millions of poor people. Not only that, it improved global stability and built goodwill throughout the world for this country.....which also matters, unless you want more terrorist attacks on the U.S. and more wars.

USAID was a money laundering scheme that acted unaccountable to any oversight...They needed to be reorganized, and they were...Botswana will have to fund their own Trans education classes.

Actions speak louder than words. Republicans did cause violence on Jan 6 and tried to steal an election.....and any decent person would have walked away from that insane, dangerous fascist political party after that.

Well, a couple of things here....First, I don't condone political violence, never have....So, the generalization that ALL of anything is subject to wear the scarlet letter on the actions of a few is not only desperate on behalf of those making the claim, but an absurd fallacy. Second, the constant desperate harkening back to an event that lasted mere hours, from a group that called for and backed a summer that saw massive devastation out west of businesses, deaths, and the true lawlessness of a real insurrection in Seattle's "CHAZ" that should have been stamped out the moment they declared to be autonomous from the US.

I think the problem that exists today is that far too much of politics is looked at, and analyzed through the lens of emotion...Instead we ought to be working together for the advancement of our freedoms...That would have to necessarily start with getting rid of the inherent jealousy of what others have, and more work to make everyone prosperous...