Among Democrats and independents Newsom is now trailing former Vice President Kamala Harris for the 2028

[Lockback]

Once Joe Biden announces he is running for reelection in '28, both these fools are toast.
Let's go Brandon!
Only Joe can win.....it was true in '24 and true now. Re-elect Joe even if he is just a head in jar by then!

"For fourteen ... errrr... four years I had America by the ... by the ... oh, you know ... the thing!"

 

[ozro]

"For fourteen ... errrr... four years I had America by the ... by the ... oh, you know ... the thing!"

That's exactly how he beat medicare

 

[yidnar]

Newsom is not a really good choice. He is too willing to be accommodating to the exteme right. He's the one who sat down with Charlie Kirk sounding like a right winger. I think he's more vice presidential material. The Democratic primary will show that Harris is the best option if she chooses to run.

Harris is the best yall have got ? lol !

 

[IM2]

Harris is the best yall have got ? lol !

She was the best candidate in 2024. She destroyed Trump in that debate to such an extent that he ran away from a second debate. And after 4 years of this, the people will understand the mistake they made. You believe a false narrative, so keep on believing the lie.

 

[IM2]

"For fourteen ... errrr... four years I had America by the ... by the ... oh, you know ... the thing!"

In grading the debate, PolitiFact cited 15 lies by Trump, plus an additional claim they put in the pants on fire category, while finding 3 for Biden. The New York Times cited 20 false statements and 21 more that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence for Trump, no false statements for Biden, and 11 that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence. The Associated Press corrected Trump 11 times as compared to 4 for Biden. CNN cited 30 false statements for Trump and at least 9 for Biden. Each of these evaluations showed that Trump told many more lies, made many more misstatements, and said things that had absolutely no evidence supporting them, yet the debate was framed as a show of Bidens cognitive decline.

While I may not be entirely correct, my understanding of debate is that each party presents a factual argument, followed by rebuttals from both sides using evidence-based reasoning. During the debate between Trump and Biden, Biden struggled with recalling facts, while Trump frequently made false statements throughout the event. Now, in my understanding of debating, being able to lie frequently, forcefully, and with confidence does not offer a factual rebuttal. The capacity to deceive with assurance does not inherently reflect high cognitive aptitude.

 

[pknopp]

If it's Newsom or Harris the Democrats will lose.

 

[Foxfyre]

"According to the poll, Harris is leading the 2028 Democratic field with support from 33 percent of Democrats and 27 percent of Independents."

Geez, Harris is the best they got? I think somebody else will rise up out of the muck that is the DNP. Probably won't be a moderate, although they'll portray him/her as such. I think the old guard hung around too long and left no heirs.

When you look at the super thin and incomprehensible bench the Democrats have, you wonder how they'll survive as a party. But never underestimated foolishness or stupidity or self-serving ambition, even evil. It seems to be all they have to sustain them these days.

 

[Lockback]

In grading the debate, PolitiFact cited 15 lies by Trump, plus an additional claim they put in the pants on fire category, while finding 3 for Biden. The New York Times cited 20 false statements and 21 more that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence for Trump, no false statements for Biden, and 11 that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence. The Associated Press corrected Trump 11 times as compared to 4 for Biden. CNN cited 30 false statements for Trump and at least 9 for Biden. Each of these evaluations showed that Trump told many more lies, made many more misstatements, and said things that had absolutely no evidence supporting them, yet the debate was framed as a show of Bidens cognitive decline.

While I may not be entirely correct, my understanding of debate is that each party presents a factual argument, followed by rebuttals from both sides using evidence-based reasoning. During the debate between Trump and Biden, Biden struggled with recalling facts, while Trump frequently made false statements throughout the event. Now, in my understanding of debating, being able to lie frequently, forcefully, and with confidence does not offer a factual rebuttal. The capacity to deceive with assurance does not inherently reflect high cognitive aptitude.

The New York Times has ZERO credibility with me.
They have lied to the American people for at least 100 years. Screw them.

 

[IM2]

The New York Times has ZERO credibility with me.
They have lied to the American people for at least 100 years. Screw them.

Nobody cares what is not credible to you. I saw the debate live; Trump lied throughout. Then Harris beat him silly, and he chickened out of a second debate. And people like you picked this mediocre MF to run this country.

 

[EMH]

Nobody cares what is not credible to you. I saw the debate live; Trump lied throughout. Then Harris beat him silly, and he chickened out of a second debate. And people like you picked this mediocre MF to run this country.

Only in Star Trek did we have the "Mirror Mirror" episode.

No, IM2, Mr. Spock doesn't have a beard in this universe...

 

[Lockback]

Nobody cares what is not credible to you. I saw the debate live; Trump lied throughout. Then Harris beat him silly, and he chickened out of a second debate. And people like you picked this mediocre MF to run this country.

Anyone who thinks that Harris won the debate and that she was anything other than the worst candidate to ever run for President has absolutely no grip on reality.

 

[JoeB131]

In grading the debate, PolitiFact cited 15 lies by Trump, plus an additional claim they put in the pants on fire category, while finding 3 for Biden. The New York Times cited 20 false statements and 21 more that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence for Trump, no false statements for Biden, and 11 that were inaccurate, lacking context or evidence. The Associated Press corrected Trump 11 times as compared to 4 for Biden. CNN cited 30 false statements for Trump and at least 9 for Biden. Each of these evaluations showed that Trump told many more lies, made many more misstatements, and said things that had absolutely no evidence supporting them, yet the debate was framed as a show of Bidens cognitive decline.

While I may not be entirely correct, my understanding of debate is that each party presents a factual argument, followed by rebuttals from both sides using evidence-based reasoning. During the debate between Trump and Biden, Biden struggled with recalling facts, while Trump frequently made false statements throughout the event. Now, in my understanding of debating, being able to lie frequently, forcefully, and with confidence does not offer a factual rebuttal. The capacity to deceive with assurance does not inherently reflect high cognitive aptitude.

Wow, guy, you don't get why Biden lost that debate so badly he had to withdraw, do you.

It wasn't that Trump told lies, it was that Biden looked sickly and confused.

Retaining Biden and replacing him with Harris at the last minute will be remembered as the biggest unforced error in political history.

 

[DonGlock26]

Wow, guy, you don't get why Biden lost that debate so badly he had to withdraw, do you.

It wasn't that Trump told lies, it was that Biden looked sickly and confused.

Retaining Biden and replacing him with Harris at the last minute will be remembered as the biggest unforced error in political history.

Don’t worry Joe. Kamala will get a second chance.

 

[JoeB131]

Don’t worry Joe. Kamala will get a second chance.

I doubt it.

But by the time Trump gets done ransacking the economy, Democrats would be able to run Tila Tequila and win.

 

[DonGlock26]

I doubt it.

But by the time Trump gets done ransacking the economy, Democrats would be able to run Tila Tequila and win.

You can't say get lost to a black woman, Joe. Be realistic. You are stuck with her until she loses again.
If I were you, I'd go with the Green Party.

 

[JoeB131]

You can't say get lost to a black woman, Joe. Be realistic. You are stuck with her until she loses again.
If I were you, I'd go with the Green Party.

Except the voters told her to get lost in 2020.

No, I doubt she'll be the nominee again.

But it doesn't matter if she is, because Trump will so badly wreck things the GOP will be sent to the political wilderness for a generation.

 

[DonGlock26]

Except the voters told her to get lost in 2020.

No, I doubt she'll be the nominee again.

But it doesn't matter if she is, because Trump will so badly wreck things the GOP will be sent to the political wilderness for a generation.

But, she only had a few months. You are stuck with her.

 

[JoeB131]

But, she only had a few months. You are stuck with her.

Not really...

But again, whoever we have, after Trump gets done wrecking things, it won't matter.

 

[DonGlock26]

Not really...

But again, whoever we have, after Trump gets done wrecking things, it won't matter.

Right, because Vance is going to win.

 

[JoeB131]

Right, because Vance is going to win.

You think Shady Vance is going to win after you guys wreck the economy again?

You really don't get how any of this works, do you?