The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[P@triot]

Thank God for our right to keep and bear arms...

Homeowner warns man kicking front door that he has a gun. Man kicks down door anyway — and pays big.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I just posted findings from the actual report that contradicts what you said in your OP

Still zero success. Why does it matter?

 

[Slade3200]

I just posted findings from the actual report that contradicts what you said in your OP

Still zero success. Why does it matter?

Huh?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Huh?

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

That is a 100% fail rate when an ineligible purchaser contacts a private sellers on forums or classified ads.

 

[Slade3200]

Huh?

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

That is a 100% fail rate when an ineligible purchaser contacts a private sellers on forums or classified ads.

Lets do some math... What is 72 - 56?

Also, what of the line that referred to the actual guns that they purchased illegally. Did you miss that one?

Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically. GAO provided referral letters to applicable lawenforcement agencies for these purchases to inform any ongoing investigations.

 

[P@triot]

Huh?

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

That is a 100% fail rate when an ineligible purchaser contacts a private sellers on forums or classified ads.

Lets do some math... What is 72 - 56?

Let’s do correct math... what is 72 - 56 - 5 - 11? The answer is 0. You can’t cherry pick a single number out of the article, cupcake.

 

[Slade3200]

Huh?

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

That is a 100% fail rate when an ineligible purchaser contacts a private sellers on forums or classified ads.

Lets do some math... What is 72 - 56?

Let’s do correct math... what is 72 - 56 - 5 - 11? The answer is 0. You can cherry pick a single number out of the article, cupcake.

What was the 11? I must have missed that

 

[P@triot]

What was the 11? I must have missed that

Right from the article...

The remaining 11 attempts turned out to be scams

 

[Slade3200]

What was the 11? I must have missed that

Right from the article...

The remaining 11 attempts turned out to be scams

I didn’t read the article I read the source file that it was written from... didn’t see mention of that. What of the Uzi and other auto that was purchased?

 

[P@triot]

I didn’t read the article I read the source file that it was written from... didn’t see mention of that. What of the Uzi and other auto that was purchased?

Well I’m going to assume that you just got confused by the GAO report and are not attempting to intentionally twist the facts of the report.

In the 72 attempts that law enforcement failed to make a single purchase, they were attempting to purchase under the guise that they were prohibited from owning firearms.

But in the two instances you are referring to (where they were able to purchase an Uzi and an AR-15), they didn’t disclose any information about their legal status either way.

Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically.

In other words - two completely different approaches. When they admitted to the sellers that they were prohibited from owning firearms, they were 0-72. When they didn’t indicate either way, they were 2-7.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf

 

[Slade3200]

I didn’t read the article I read the source file that it was written from... didn’t see mention of that. What of the Uzi and other auto that was purchased?

Well I’m going to assume that you just got confused by the GAO report and are not attempting to intentionally twist the facts of the report.

In the 72 attempts that law enforcement failed to make a single purchase, they were attempting to purchase under the guise that they were prohibited from owning firearms.

But in the two instances you are referring to (where they were able to purchase an Uzi and an AR-15), they didn’t disclose any information about their legal status either way.

Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically.

In other words - two completely different approaches. When they admitted to the sellers that they were prohibited from owning firearms, they were 0-72. When they didn’t indicate either way, they were 2-7.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf

So I guess the logical question would be how many people who are prohibited to purchase firearms do you think disclose that when trying to purchase a firearm. And for those that don’t disclose that then they have 2 of 7 or a 30%ish percent change of getting a weapon? Although 7 is nowhere close to a adequate sample size

 

[P@triot]

So I guess the logical question would be how many people who are prohibited to purchase firearms do you think disclose that when trying to purchase a firearm.

I think the real logical question would be: why do progressives spread propaganda? This study by the GAO and ATF indisputably proves that every claim the left has made about the “gun loophole” is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

And for those that don’t disclose that then they have 2 of 7 or a 30%ish percent change of getting a weapon? Although 7 is nowhere close to a adequate sample size

Yep...a pitiful 30%. That means an overwhelming 70% of the time, they are still not getting their hands on a firearm. Way more than 30% of the illegal aliens who attempt to make it into this country are successful. Why aren’t you complaining about that?

 

[2aguy]

The entire left-wing narrative about firearms is a lie. It’s all built on a political agenda rather than on data.

The report states that investigators posing online as gun buyers who were not legally able to purchase a firearm were completely unsuccessful when attempting to purchase firearms from private sellers. In fact, the report states that investigators tried 72 times — and each time they failed.

That’s right - 0% of the ATF investigators were able to make an illegal purchase. Not even one.

Investigators test how well gun laws work online — and find shocking results that undermine liberals

Did you read the actual report or just the partisan Blaze article?

This is from the report that was referenced in your OP's blaze article. Tip - Always check your sources when you are looking at partisan puff pieces. There is too much fake news out there.

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GAO agents attempted to purchase firearms from Dark Web and Surface Web marketplaces. Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically. GAO provided referral letters to applicable law enforcement agencies for these purchases to inform any ongoing investigations.

Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up were frozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and attempting to make a purchase.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf

Dumb shit...they got those two weapons on the Dark Web...and as one website pointed out, you can buy people on the Dark Web......all the other attempts on the regular internet failed....

And, doofus.....a 19 year old kid in Britain got a pistol and ammo on the dark web to shoot up the university that had kicked him out...that was last year...doofus....and the only reason he didn't commit a mass public shooting in Britain is he posted on social medai about the attack.......

He said it was as easy as buying a box of chocolates....in Britain, where they banned all handguns for law abiding people...and now their gun crime rate is sky rocketing...

http://www.guns.com/2015/09/26/british-teen-sentenced-to-life-for-planned-school-attack/
British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack



Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.

Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.

As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.

According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.

Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.

The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”

He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.

 

[2aguy]

I didn’t read the article I read the source file that it was written from... didn’t see mention of that. What of the Uzi and other auto that was purchased?

Well I’m going to assume that you just got confused by the GAO report and are not attempting to intentionally twist the facts of the report.

In the 72 attempts that law enforcement failed to make a single purchase, they were attempting to purchase under the guise that they were prohibited from owning firearms.

But in the two instances you are referring to (where they were able to purchase an Uzi and an AR-15), they didn’t disclose any information about their legal status either way.

Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically.

In other words - two completely different approaches. When they admitted to the sellers that they were prohibited from owning firearms, they were 0-72. When they didn’t indicate either way, they were 2-7.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf

So I guess the logical question would be how many people who are prohibited to purchase firearms do you think disclose that when trying to purchase a firearm. And for those that don’t disclose that then they have 2 of 7 or a 30%ish percent change of getting a weapon? Although 7 is nowhere close to a adequate sample size

they had to go on the Dark Web to get those guns moron.......the regular internet was a complete failure.....

 

[2aguy]

Firearm ownership is none the of the federal governments business, Just like other people’s firearm ownership is none of your business

Amen. Just like abortion is none of your business. Right?

No...abortion is murder...and murder is against the law...

 

[Rustic]

Firearm ownership is none the of the federal governments business, Just like other people’s firearm ownership is none of your business

Amen. Just like abortion is none of your business. Right?

Abortion is none of the federal governments business, but back to the point. The federal government should have no idea what the citizens of this country have for firearms ~ the federal government is only useful when they live in fear of the people.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gun control is for fucking pussies...

Or are guns for pussies? #mindblown

So I take it you will just kung fu anyone who pulls a gun or a knife huh?

 

[Skull Pilot]

The False Promise of Gun Control

 

[Slade3200]

So I guess the logical question would be how many people who are prohibited to purchase firearms do you think disclose that when trying to purchase a firearm.

I think the real logical question would be: why do progressives spread propaganda? This study by the GAO and ATF indisputably proves that every claim the left has made about the “gun loophole” is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

And for those that don’t disclose that then they have 2 of 7 or a 30%ish percent change of getting a weapon? Although 7 is nowhere close to a adequate sample size

Yep...a pitiful 30%. That means an overwhelming 70% of the time, they are still not getting their hands on a firearm. Way more than 30% of the illegal aliens who attempt to make it into this country are successful. Why aren’t you complaining about that?

Wow, double diversion. Nice. You’re better than that patriot. Come on now

 

[Slade3200]

I didn’t read the article I read the source file that it was written from... didn’t see mention of that. What of the Uzi and other auto that was purchased?

Well I’m going to assume that you just got confused by the GAO report and are not attempting to intentionally twist the facts of the report.

In the 72 attempts that law enforcement failed to make a single purchase, they were attempting to purchase under the guise that they were prohibited from owning firearms.

But in the two instances you are referring to (where they were able to purchase an Uzi and an AR-15), they didn’t disclose any information about their legal status either way.

Agents made seven attempts to purchase firearms on the Dark Web. In these attempts, agents did not disclose any information about whether they were prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of these seven attempts, two on a Dark Web marketplace were successful. Specifically, GAO agents purchased and received an AR-15 rifle and an Uzi that the seller said was modified so that it would fire automatically.

In other words - two completely different approaches. When they admitted to the sellers that they were prohibited from owning firearms, they were 0-72. When they didn’t indicate either way, they were 2-7.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/688535.pdf

So I guess the logical question would be how many people who are prohibited to purchase firearms do you think disclose that when trying to purchase a firearm. And for those that don’t disclose that then they have 2 of 7 or a 30%ish percent change of getting a weapon? Although 7 is nowhere close to a adequate sample size

they had to go on the Dark Web to get those guns moron.......the regular internet was a complete failure.....

Wonderful. Let’s go after the dark web then. Right?