The Defenders (Netflix show)

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I loved seasons 1 and 2 of Daredevil, but I mainly loved it due to how grounded it felt. For the most part, there were no super powers except a bit from the bad guys, but that felt more like the paranormal and the occult. The Hand seemed more like R'as al Ghul and the League of Shadows in Batman.

I only watched 1 episode of Jessica Jones, none of Luke Cage, and I caught one of the later episodes of Iron Fist when I was at a friend's house. I wasn't really interested in those shows, because the characters were so strong in terms of super powers. I prefer the toned down blind man with heightened senses theme of Daredevil.

I also refused to watch Iron Fist, because it's basically yet another White person playing what could have been an Asian character (Marvel does a lot of that).

Luckily, Iron Fist wasn't in episode 1 enough to annoy me too much. The episode as a whole was ok, but I still prefer the Daredevil characters over Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist. Jessica Jones is a bit better in this opening episode.

The strongest addition in terms of acting is definitely Sigourney Weaver. Not much is revealed about her in this opening episode, but you can tell she's a bad ass. I do look forward to finding out more about her character.

In the last 5-10 minutes of the episode, the show starts to build up to what looks like a big, epic cliffhanger. But then they cut it off right before they even give a hint of what's going on in terms of what the team is going up against this season.

Overall, I give this episode a 7/10. I might've bumped it up to 8/10 if it had a better cliffhanger, but it didn't. I do intend to keep watching.

 

[aaronleland]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

 

[Gracie]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

Oh, like making Roland Despain of The Dark Tower a black man when he has NEVER been portrayed as black? Kinda like that?
King was all gungho to change it too since he is just so PC.

 

[aaronleland]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

Oh, like making Roland Despain of The Dark Tower a black man when he has NEVER been portrayed as black? Kinda like that?
King was all gungho to change it too since he is just so PC.

Remember Red from The Shawshank Redemption? In the short story they called him Red because he was a read-headed Irish guy. So naturally why wouldn't Morgan Freeman play him in the movie?

 

[Gracie]

I read Shawshank once and promtply forgot about it. Have watched the movie a thousand times. Love Morgan Freeman.
With that said, I have read Dark Tower many times. MANY times. All books. Roland IS NOT BLACK.

So, when is a hollyweird director going to make a new movie about Shaft and Ben Affleck is hired to play him?

 

[aaronleland]

I read Shawshank once and promtply forgot about it. Have watched the movie a thousand times. Love Morgan Freeman.
With that said, I have read Dark Tower many times. MANY times. All books. Roland IS NOT BLACK.

So, when is a hollyweird director going to make a new movie about Shaft and Ben Affleck is hired to play him?

Stephen King has said that he modeled Roland after a Clint Eastwood like character. I think Eastwood has some black in him.

 

[Gracie]

I read Shawshank once and promtply forgot about it. Have watched the movie a thousand times. Love Morgan Freeman.
With that said, I have read Dark Tower many times. MANY times. All books. Roland IS NOT BLACK.

So, when is a hollyweird director going to make a new movie about Shaft and Ben Affleck is hired to play him?

Stephen King has said that he modeled Roland after a Clint Eastwood like character. I think Eastwood has some black in him.

We all have black in us, but that is beside the point. Yes, Roland is Eastwoodish.
I hated..yes HATED the IT movie. A walton boy playing the major character? I think not. But this NEW movie IT looks more along what the book was about.

Maybe the next Dark Tower movie will have Suzannah played by Meryl Streep.

 

[aaronleland]

I have been reading the Dark Tower series since I was a little kid. When I was homeschooled my mom would give them to us as reading reports. For some reason the black Roland in the movie never bothered me. What bothered me the most was the black Human Torch in the most recent Fantastic Four movie. At least Roland was text. Johnny Storm has been nothing but visually represented for decades before the Dark Tower series even existed, and suddenly he's black?

 

[Lewdog]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

No one had a problem with David Carradine being White and basically playing the same type of role.

 

[Gracie]

The thing about books and comics is....the reader imagines what they look like in their head and when an actor is to portray that character and misses the mark..it ruins it forever in the readers mind. Which is why I will never, ever, watch Dark Tower. OR re read Shawshank. Red is Morgan Freeman to me. I want how I imagined them to stay put in my head.

 

[aaronleland]

I thought Asians would be offended by their representation in film nowadays. It's 2017 and every Asian is a ninja? Why can't he just own a drycleaner like a real Asian?

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

No one had a problem with David Carradine being White and basically playing the same type of role.

You're wrong. Asian people had a problem with that.

 

[Lewdog]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

No one had a problem with David Carradine being White and basically playing the same type of role.

You're wrong. Asian people had a problem with that.

Well he certainly became famous enough from it, that their ire sure didn't make much of a difference.

 

[aaronleland]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

No one had a problem with David Carradine being White and basically playing the same type of role.

You're wrong. Asian people had a problem with that.

Well he certainly became famous enough from it, that their ire sure didn't make much of a difference.

In fairness in those days you could get away with more. You could be found dead with a noose around your neck and cum on your leg. You still died a movie legend.

 

[Lewdog]

I was just getting ready to turn on the first episode.

I never understood this newfound criticism of Iron Fist now that he's a more mainstream character in the MCU. It's a character that has been a white guy since I think the 70's. I would have been pissed if they made him Asian just to cater to today's PC culture.

The criticism is that his character is all about tai chi, chi, buddhism, etc. Marvel will not hesitate to turn a character black for "diversity," but they will never turn a character Asian (especially an Asian male) for the same.

No one had a problem with David Carradine being White and basically playing the same type of role.

You're wrong. Asian people had a problem with that.

Well he certainly became famous enough from it, that their ire sure didn't make much of a difference.

In fairness in those days you could get away with more. You could be found dead with a noose around your neck and cum on your leg. You still died a movie legend.

How do you know he came? Were you there?

 

[Lewdog]

I'll be honest, if I were Asian, the one role that would have really pissed me off is Tilda Swinson playing The Ancient One.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

Episode 2: 7/10

I'll be honest, if I were Asian, the one role that would have really pissed me off is Tilda Swinson playing The Ancient One.

I wouldn't. Asians don't get roles as it is, and a role that big would be great.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

Episode 2:

This episode was about the same as episode 1. 7/10 for me.

Episode 3:

This episode starts out really strong. The first 13 minutes or so was about an 8/10 for me, but then they get into a loooooong patch with Iron Fist and Luke Cage, which, frankly, just bored the hell out of me. That knocked the score down to 7/10 for me. But then the final fight at the end bumped it up to 7.5/10. I would have given this an 8/10 if we got more Daredevil this episode, but he was barely in it.

 

[Lewdog]

Episode 2: 7/10

I'll be honest, if I were Asian, the one role that would have really pissed me off is Tilda Swinson playing The Ancient One.

I wouldn't. Asians don't get roles as it is, and a role that big would be great.

I'm not sure what you are arguing... they took what is an Asian character and gave the role to an androgynous White person. It was just horrible casting.