The Dark Origins of Communism

[struth]

It must since it cannot be any form of Capitalism. Our Constitution established a Government with the social power to do Things.

sure it can be a part of capitalism

capitalism does not prevent the Govt from engaging in the market and buying things like real property

try again

 

[fncceo]

And others think it's cool to be a libertarian.

Both are misguided

The best part of being a Libertarian is ... you don't give a frak if people think you are one.

"But I don't think of you." -- Howard Roark

 

[danielpalos]

sure it can be a part of capitalism

capitalism does not prevent the Govt from engaging in the market and buying things like real property

try again

Our federal Constitution utilizes socialism to Regulate capitalism. Ideally, socialism should merely try to use Capitalism for all of its Capital worth in modern economic times.

 

[Soupnazi630]

There is nothing remotely dark about the origins of communism.
Communism is how all families, tribes, religious groups, and any small groups have always lived, through out all times.
It is how Meerkats and all primates tend to live.

The fact when there are revolutions, that evil people get an opportunity to take over, has nothing to do with communism.
And much of what really happened we will never know due to all the propaganda.

With Russia, it is clear the Germans paid Lenin to go into Russia and take them out of WWI.
He was not a communist, but a paid agent.

He was a communist with has nothing to do with small groups and how they live.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Our federal Constitution utilizes socialism to Regulate capitalism. Ideally, socialism should merely try to use Capitalism for all of its Capital worth in modern economic times.

Our constitution does no such thing.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It must since it cannot be any form of Capitalism. Our Constitution established a Government with the social power to do Things.

Our consitution gives no sociual power to government

You are ignorant and wrong and posting fallacies again

 

[struth]

Our federal Constitution utilizes socialism to Regulate capitalism. Ideally, socialism should merely try to use Capitalism for all of its Capital worth in modern economic times.

ca. you highlight to the part of the Constitution that does that?

you do realize the theory of socialism didn’t even exist when our Constitution was written?

 

[danielpalos]

ca. you highlight to the part of the Constitution that does that?

you do realize the theory of socialism didn’t even exist when our Constitution was written?

Right-wingers are simply clueless and Causeless and only know how to be rebels without a Cause.

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

 

[Soupnazi630]

Right-wingers are simply clueless and Causeless and only know how to be rebels without a Cause.

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

None of which is socialism you right wing retard

 

[struth]

Right-wingers are simply clueless and Causeless and only know how to be rebels without a Cause.

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

how is that socialism?

 

[Mushroom]

College students having little knowledge of history still think its cool to be a marxist.

Most people tend to forget that Communism existed before Marx was even born. As did Socialism. He took some of the concept, and then twisted it into something completely different.

But in the narrative today, all three are normally lumped together by the Left so that they are the same thing. They want some kind of "Marxist Communist Socialism", and will automatically bring up one when another is being discussed.

Therefore, any attempt to talk about "Communism" or "Socialism" always tends to bring it back in a circle to Marx. And they pretend that any attempt to do any must be their own definition mean Marxist Communism.

But the biggest difference, is that original "Communism" or "Socialism" were to have been decisions enacted by the people as a way to govern themselves. Madman Marx is the one that injected the entire "class struggle", "revolution", and "violent overthrow" into the debate, which is what turned most people who enjoy freedom against his beliefs. And I do not care if it is Nationalist Socialism or Marxist Socialism, I see them as the exact same thing most times. Some group of people using violence to get what they want, then oppressing everybody in the name of "the people".

 

[alang1216]

Do not confuse the military with a political philosophy.

Again; the theory of communism is one thing how it works in practice is an entirely different matter.

Do not confuse an economic system with a political system.

 

[Persuader]

Do not confuse an economic system with a political system.

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which the major means of production, such as mines and factories, are owned and controlled by the public.

 

[alang1216]

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which the major means of production, such as mines and factories, are owned and controlled by the public.

Is capitalism a political and economic system?

 

[Persuader]

Is capitalism a political and economic system?

Capitalism as a social, political, and economic system that succeeded feudalism based upon recognition of the rights of private parties to choose how to employ their labor and capital in markets as indicated by market prices instead of tradition.

 

[Mushroom]

Communism is a political and economic system that seeks to create a classless society in which the major means of production, such as mines and factories, are owned and controlled by the public.

That is actually Marxism. Not all Communists accepted Marxism as the "true definition".

Marxism is the one that introduced the fantasy of a "classless society".

 

[Mushroom]

Capitalism as a social, political, and economic system that succeeded feudalism based upon recognition of the rights of private parties to choose how to employ their labor and capital in markets as indicated by market prices instead of tradition.

Spoken like a true believer.

Of course, everybody knows that the nation founded upon that "belief" is the one that ended up on the ash heap of history. And all that is left are various forms of Dictatorships and Authoritarian governments.

Yeah, Communism is good stuff. Ask the people of North Korea. Or Cambodia, China, and Cuba. Venezuela (who's economy is so bad despite being an oil exporter that the fake money from a video game is actually worth more than their national currency), and just about every other country that tried it.

 

[alang1216]

Capitalism as a social, political, and economic system that succeeded feudalism based upon recognition of the rights of private parties to choose how to employ their labor and capital in markets as indicated by market prices instead of tradition.

Sorry, not buying it. There have been autocrats and monarchs that ruled over capitalist economies but also democracies and republics. China today has a capitalist sector in their economy.

 

[DudleySmith]

Epoch Times is a great paper, especially if you want to know what the Red Chinese are doing and why. Great opinion pages, too.

 

[DudleySmith]

Sorry, not buying it. There have been autocrats and monarchs that ruled over capitalist economies but also democracies and republics. China today has a capitalist sector in their economy.

lol the 'capitalist sector' in Red China is the Cadre members; you're required to have one as a 'partner' if you want to do business there, and you fork over a big cut to them. Jack Ma is worshipped over here by such as the Wall Street Journal as some sort of great entrepreneur, but they rarely mention the fact that he's a Cadre exec as well. The Soveits also had a 'capitalist sector', so does North Korea. That doesn't mean anything re the vast majority of people and how they're affected by totalitarian regimes.